Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Jonathan N. Little]

EE wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 23-02-18 18:44:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$ &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search" 
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it 
responds INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill

Perhaps using :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html


What happens if you leave out the asterisks?



or specifically for a filename

filename:*.spag*.*

or

file:*.spag*.*

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 23-02-18 18:44:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$ &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search" - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill

Perhaps using :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html


What happens if you leave out the asterisks?

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Thank you Gentlemen !  I have downloaded all three mentioned here.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[David E. Ross]

On 2/23/2018 9:44 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I hate Windows 7 !
> I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !
> 
> I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
> the Upper Right Side
> of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)
> 
> I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
> spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
> remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
> I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
> IMMEDIATE.
> I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
> one terabyte capacity !
> Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
> at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
> INSTANTLY - no search was really done.
> 
> HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

If you are searching for a file by its name, extension, date, or
anything else but not its content, try Everything from
.  It is fast.

If you are searching for a file by its contents, try Agent Ransack from
.  It is much slower than
Everything, but it has to examine the contents of every file within the
scope of its search.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 23-02-18 18:44:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$ &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill

Perhaps using :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html
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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on the Upper 
Right Side
of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an
old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't remember the exact NAME 
i saved it
under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of one 
terabyte
capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right at the 
top - it is
searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds INSTANTLY - no search was really 
done.

HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


I dumped Win search on day 1 of win7 and installed Everything and Ransack.
Everything is slightly faster than Ransack but Ransack can also searche within 
files.
https://www.voidtools.com/
https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

Have you installed Classic Shell yet?
It makes 7 look much like xp.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 1:02 PM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:
On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).




Oops!  That should read AsteriskspagAsterisk.  Just in case your SM 
transforms that into bold and doesn't show the asterisks.


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those of us who do." - Isaac Asimov


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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[NFN Smith]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)





HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?


There's lots of power to the search tool, but there's a lot of cryptic 
options that you have to use to actually get it to do what you want it 
to do. To me, the search tool is sufficiently cryptic that it's not 
really useful for anybody that's not a techie (e.g., the sort of person 
that does a lot of scripting).  It also falls short in that it tends to 
blur the difference between data and metadata, and you have to go to 
extra effort to tell it to search only for file names, rather than 
searching for contents within files.


For me, the limit of the search tool is in context-based searching:

- Searching for file names in a sub-folder, using the Windows Explorer 
(and yes, that's still the name in Windows 7)


- Searching using the search box in the Start menu

- Searching the Control Panel. If I have the Control Panel open, it's 
easier to use the search tool to find specific things than it is to try 
to remember the navigation to get there. I find that this method works 
remarkably well in Win 7 and 8.1, and it's enough that I can pretty much 
ignore the mostly brain-dead UI offered in the Win 10 Control Panel and 
Settings applet.


Beyond that, if I need to do searching, I generally resort to 
non-Microsoft tools.  I find that I really like the controls offered by 
Agent Ransack, and by putting an icon for that in my toolbar that I 
locate next to the start button, I can get to that one quickly with 
Logo-1, as easily as I can get to the Windows search tool with Logo-F.


There's other third-party search tools -- one of the most common is 
Everything, which is open source.  One difference between Agent Ransack 
and Everything is that I believe that Agent Ransack will use Microsoft's 
indexing, where Everything relies on an index that it has to build.


I'm enough of a Linux guy that I have Cygwin, and for some things, I 
prefer to drop out to Cygwin bash command window, and use 'find' from 
there.  That's not dramatically simpler than the syntax of the Win 7, so 
much as I've used it enough over the years that I'm adept in using it.


Smith

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).


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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


I am sorry - I realize this is not a Windows News Groupapologies !

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Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[DoctorBill]

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill
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