Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Eero Aro
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: I would tend to differ. If BluRay DVD-Audio were resounding successes, then one could say: heck, just deliver binaural, stereo, 5.1 etc. downmixes and not worry about distribution formats, these disks have more storage capacity than we know to fill with an album

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Richard G Elen
On 16/05/2013 08:45, Eero Aro wrote: In my thinking BluRay and DVD-Audio are delivery mediums. Isn't DVD-Audio past and gone? They may not be gone technically - there is still the odd release and the odd player - but they are certainly gone from public consciousness. I don't think any

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Richard G Elen
On 16/05/2013 10:36, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: This is another version of the lobby the record companies to adopt xxx technology argument, which never worked in the past. Nope. Screw the record industry. This is lobby the distributors. Google, Apple, Amazon, these are the driving forces, they

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Richard G Elen
On 16/05/2013 10:44, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: The question is if e.g. Apple would tolerate if you send them a file that's two or three times the size it needs to be, because it adds an extended tag that points to additional audio streams, particularly if the iTunes.app couldn't play them

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Augustine Leudar
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[Sursound] Musicologist Post @ Huddersfield

2013-05-16 Thread Pierre Alexandre Tremblay
Dear all This will be of interest to the musicology inclined of you... and you would have access to the studios too ;-) pa http://jobs.timeshighereducation.co.uk/jobs_jobdetails.asp?source=jobalertac=104356 ___ Sursound mailing list

[Sursound] Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots of mics.....

2013-05-16 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Justin Bennett
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
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[Sursound] Spatial Music Artist Stories

2013-05-16 Thread Timothy Schmele
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Peter Lennox
The original conception of the Grand Duchy of Ambisonia was that it was a fairy tale place where magic happens, where you could do fantasmagorical things with sound... but you couldn't bring all the magic back with you into this world. Furthermore, time is different there - you pop in through

[Sursound] Install Ambdec Problems

2013-05-16 Thread Paul Power
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Re: [Sursound] Install Ambdec Problems

2013-05-16 Thread Fons Adriaensen
Hi Paul,: I am trying to install Ambdec on my Mac which has Mountain Lion Ver10.8.3, i have managed to compile the Libcthreads but an error is generated when trying to compile the Libclxclient ' (Assuming you are using the OSX makefile) ld: warning: directory not found for option

[Sursound] Ambdec

2013-05-16 Thread Paul Power
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Re: [Sursound] theatrical ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread chris boozer
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Eero Aro
Augustine Leudar wrote: However I'm not sure I agree that our hearing cant tell the difference between whether a sound is coming from one or several speakers I try to be more precise. If you have a normal 5.1 speaker setup around you and you have several playback devices in your use, you can

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Peter Lennox
Exactly. Strictly, much stereo one hears is a bit like that - a mixture of panpotted stereo, coincident mic, spaced mic, pseudostereo effects and even mono-stuck-in-a-speaker. Dr. Peter Lennox School of Technology, Faculty of Arts, Design and Technology University of Derby, UK e:

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Peter Lennox
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Re: [Sursound] Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots of mics.....

2013-05-16 Thread Peter Lennox
have miced up a 3d soundfield in this way ? I have read a couple of things but none of them are quite the same, best, Gus -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130516/a0650da1/attachment.html

Re: [Sursound] Recreating a 3d soundfield with lots of mics.....

2013-05-16 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Ambdec

2013-05-16 Thread Daniel Courville
Le 2013-05-16 09:27, Paul Power a écrit : anyway thanks, will keep trying Well, there's this: http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=1496. - Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Timothy Schmele
Well, its the most accurate in terms of point source localization. Then again, its highly dependent on the rendering method used and the layout available in the final space. But, at least in terms of archiving a 3d soundtrack it will be the most accurate, as rendering it to a lower order

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: As long as online music distribution grows at the rates it's growing at, and as long as everything there is stereo, something like iTunes plug-ins, and UHJ mixes have a use, and if one could form a partnership with some of the big fish out there, like e.g. Apple,

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: My point is, physical media is gone. So while in the case of physical media, one can easily (and without significant added cost) downmix an Ambisonic production to 5.1, 7.1, stereo, and binaural, and still ship it on the same media (provided one chooses Ambisonic

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: On 16 May 2013, at 05:24, Richard G Elen re...@brideswell.com wrote: Ambisonic B-format or even UHJ-format delivery has an opening here, provided the bickering stops and a concerted effort is made to lobby the players involved, because for a reasonably moderate

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Stefan Schreiber wrote: Timothy Schmele wrote: The industry is moving towards object oriented encoding of 3D soundtracks anyway. This is perhaps the least elegant, but the most accurate, as every sound is stored in isolation of the others, with exact meta information of its spatial

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2013-05-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: I have used the 48 channel system at sarc on many occasions and have set up my own 32 channel one - and if I want a sound to come from a point source I would not use ambisonics- I would try and have the sound come out of only one speaker use vbap or at

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
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[Sursound] Binaural

2013-05-16 Thread dw
Hi all, Just popped in to do some spamming.. I hope there are still some here with a passing interest in binaural. I have made a new type of dummy head, and am looking for some feedback on whether it works for anyone other than myself. The samples are here:

Re: [Sursound] The commercial future of Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread alan . varty
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[Sursound] Ambdec

2013-05-16 Thread Paul Power
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