Hi Ong
Its Idul Fitri (Muslim feat after the fast) vacation
time in Indonesia and the reason for the delay in
getting back to you. Our office reopens next Monday
December 8.
Im curious why you are using the most expensive palm
oil derivative to make biodiesel! Maybe CPO or
getting WVO
Fwd from Mike Jureidini, Australian Farmers Fuel
Senator Lyn Allison
Australian Democrats Energy and Resources Spokesperson
MEDIA RELEASE 03/857
Government fails ethanol, again
Ethanol labelling will go ahead under the Fuel Quality Standards
Amendment Bill, passed in the Senate
See also:
Round-up Ready Sudden Death Syndrome
Prof. Joe Cummins finds evidence that Roundup Ready causes sudden
death and other diseases by boosting fusarium in the soil. 30/11/03
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/RRSD.php
Ten reasons to NOT use Roundup
Patzek's quite right about the large amounts of fossil-fuels used in
the production of maize and wheat - industrialized monocrops of maize
and wheat, that is. But it says long-term sustainability is one of
his research interests, so he ought to know that industrialized
monocrops aren't the
I really do not understand this story when you say changing from petrol to
something else.
Are we talking about diesel engines or petrol / gasoline engines ?
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Pieter Koole
Netherlands
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Thanks a lot Keith.
I have the advantage to have a small test - diesel engine ( 13 Hp Kubota ).
A few years ago, I bought this thing for other purposes, but now I use it
for testing, so if there are new developments to try out, I can do it for
you and the others, without risking my car engine.
Thank Another Member ToMaSjKn who had corrected me in his mail
The charging time is NOT limited by the
power available for the charger but by battery chemistry. there is no
escape from that
He is right, due to the chemistry of the battery.
The fastest they can be fully charged will be at
Keith Addison said:
Not with the current processes, particularly not with WVO. There is work
being done on this but nothing so far.
Come on Dan, not so! Nothing so far? Mark just said this, as you
know (in reply to you in fact):
Keith,
Name me one person who regularly uses ethanol
Thankyou Dave. Very interesting. Good for you! Schumacher didn't
particularly write Small is Beautiful (Economics as if People
Mattered) for the 3rd World. He developed the Appropriate Technology
approach as an adjunct to appropriate economics (technology as if
people mattered), also not
Thanks a lot Keith.
You're more than welcome Pieter.
I have the advantage to have a small test - diesel engine ( 13 Hp Kubota ).
A few years ago, I bought this thing for other purposes, but now I use it
for testing, so if there are new developments to try out, I can do it for
you and the
girl_mark_fire said:
Randy Davis in Sonoma County CA who is a very visible
SVO/biodiesel guy in their SVO coop. (virgin oil, regularly)
Ken Provost on this board (WVO)
Any regularity on this Ken? From reading your notes, it sounded like
you ended up with more soap than BD...
Laurie from
Fwd from Mike Jureidini, Australian Farmers Fuel
Senator Lyn Allison
Australian Democrats Energy and Resources Spokesperson
MEDIA RELEASE 03/857
Government fails ethanol, again
Ethanol labelling will go ahead under the Fuel Quality Standards
Amendment Bill, passed in the Senate
See also:
Round-up Ready Sudden Death Syndrome
Prof. Joe Cummins finds evidence that Roundup Ready causes sudden
death and other diseases by boosting fusarium in the soil. 30/11/03
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/RRSD.php
Ten reasons to NOT use Roundup
Keith Addison said:
Have you ever made BD at all Dan?
No, I haven't.
To answer you, in a word, no. Ah-ha! you say, I knew it! But I don't
know what that's supposed to prove - nothing, I'd say, it certainly
doesn't gainsay my Not so! What difference does it make if I've
made it or not?
on 12/1/03 6:34 AM, Dan Maker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any regularity on this Ken? From reading
your notes, it sounded like you ended up
with more soap than BD...
OK, Dan -- I'm gonna tell you my story once
(even tho it's well documented in scores of
messages in the archives), and
Patzek's quite right about the large amounts of fossil-fuels used in
the production of maize and wheat - industrialized monocrops of maize
and wheat, that is. But it says long-term sustainability is one of
his research interests, so he ought to know that industrialized
monocrops aren't the
China to Put Corn Into Gas Tanks
By Nao Nakanishi
Jilin province, home to China's first car factory and also its biggest corn
producer, is putting corn and cars together in a project to ease the country's
exploding pollution ahead of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games.
Like many other
At 06:24 PM 12/1/03 +0900, Keith wrote:
Main reason for us is that you can make
ethanol yourself, but not methanol, or not easily anyway - not
something a 3rd World villager can do.
Just a quick note to say that we're committed to working on that part
of
the puzzle.
Over
Ken Provost said:
I used it for over
a year in a 5:1 mix with methanol
As I understand the chemistry, the methanol was creating the methoxide
(K or Na) which was providing the catylist for your reaction, while the
ethanol was doing the esterfication. This is something that the chemist
and I
Dan said:
Tell me Keith, have you ever made BD with Ethanol, either virgin oil or
WVO?
I haven't.
Keith Addison said:
Have you ever made BD at all Dan?
No, I haven't.
To answer you, in a word, no. Ah-ha! you say, I knew it! But I don't
know what that's supposed to prove - nothing,
I have read about sewage plants that use thick rubber bladders with
slits in them. when compressed air is put in the slitss open up and
bubble, but when the air quits the slits close so there is no back
flow - sort of a check valve. maybe you could use the bicycle valve
of the sort that they use
Pulled this from a geography list serve I'm on. Standard reading for us
but nice to know other groups are getting the word out.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub%5Freleases/2003%2D10/uou%2Dbm9102603.php
Bad Mileage: 98 tons of plants per gallon
Study shows vast amounts of 'buried sunshine' needed
xmission.com does not acknowledge that that URL exists.
Fred
On Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003, at 14:02 US/Eastern, Dan Maker wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Is anyone making progress on the reliability of this process, or
defining
the source oils that are easiest to crack with ethanol?
Will
Keith, Ken, Mark, List Members,
I've realy botched this. Done a poor job comunicating and said some things
I realy didn't know enough about to open my mouth.
I am sorry.
Dan
--
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
xmission.com does not acknowledge that that URL exists.
Fred
Fred,
No, I moved it to a different name after there were some conserns about
the content.
I'll email off list with a good URL.
Dan
--
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Fiber Artist - Genealogist -
Apology accepted.
Now high thee hence to your local
racing shop, get some methanol, and
start brewin' !! -K
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Ken Provost said:
Apology accepted.
Thanks
Now high thee hence to your local
racing shop, get some methanol, and
start brewin' !! -K
Planing to do some virgin oil this weekend.
Dan
--
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper -
Hello. I'm a newbie, so go easy.
We gathered our materials (WVO, Red Devil, methanol, old blender,
fish tank heater, measuring gear, etc.) and have mixed several test
batches, but it doesn't look right.
One liter WVO, 200 ml CH3OH, and varied the amount of lye (3.0 g, 4.0
g, 4.5 g, 5.5 g).
I have seen this many times and I thought I should voice my skepticism.
Think about it. 98 *tons* of material per *gallon*. Someone either
forgot several decimal places, or is making a really bad comparison. How
many pounds of organic material can we use in an acid hydrolysis method
to
MH wrote:
HEET Gas-Line Antifreeze
http://www.goldeagle.com/heet/
A Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) says it contains --
99% Methyl Alcohol - Methanol
0.2% Xylenes
an unknown (secret) quantity for inhibiting corrosion.
That's 99% methanol, ~0.2% xylenes, and ~0.8% secret
Paul, this last part caught my attention:
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Paul B.Schmidt wrote:
We would have to choose
between our rain forests and our vehicles and appliances. Biomass
burning can be part of the solution if we use agricultural wastes, but
other technologies have
Martin: Does this help?
Dukes calculated ancient plant matter needed for a gallon of gasoline
in
metric units:
* One gallon of oil weighs 3.26 kilograms. A gallon of oil produces
up to 0.67 gallons of gasoline. So 3.26 kilograms for a gallon of
oil divided by 0.67 gallons
I'm sorry, Dan, but in the real world, biodiesel doesn't lend itself
well to theory. You should just get into making small liter
batches, lots of people started this way and you;d get a lot further
this way then just trying to apply scientific theory on the internet
without making the stuff.
Phosphoric acid allegedly works for acid esterification. It's a
whole lot more expensive than sulfuric.
mark
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You also said that the acid base method _MUST_ be
done with sulfuric acid,
That's what it says, quite
This is a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway.
I haven't yet had the time to put in the full conversion on my S-10D,
but I'd like to get some vegoil into my fuel stream. Just call me
impatient.
If I thin the vegoil, say 50/50 with kerosene, and let the engine warm
up before I drive it,
You can poke holes in a plastic tube with a pin to make a
bubbler. with the ball inflator pin you're likely to get too much
agitation and make emulsion.
mark
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, the_maniacal_engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read about sewage plants that use thick rubber
Can this engine be designed?
Can an engine be designed so that it can run on gasoline, diesel, ethanol,
biodiesel, or veggie oil ?
The Brazilian government is now giving tax breaks on cars that can run on
either ethanol or gasoline.
But in the next thirty to fifty years we will inevitably be
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