What processors are the commercial producers using? I need to find a sorce
for one for a feasability study.
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At what point does a biodiesel blend's effect become neglagable? I bring up
this point after reading the directions on a bottle of canola based fuel
addative that is made localy, and sells for over$15/l.
The directions suggest to add 1 litre to 1000 litres of diesel.
In my unprofesional
well, I have found a batch of oil that won't sepparate. I have heated it to
220f to make sure there isn't any water in it. It has been at 220f for an
hour or so with no boiling. I have titrated it several times with a result
of 5. I have made test batches at 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 grams per litre
I just washed another batch. I did a shake test and the water sepparated
within minutes. The water was clear, but the oil remains cloudy. My last
batch cleared almost imediately after heating the washed product. Any ideas?
Brent
P.S. What are the symptoms of too much and too little lye?
I made a batch of diesel a couiple days ago that went perfect. I made
another batch the same as the first that sepparated good. I added about 5
gallons of water to the 40 gallons of diesel that I had to wash, and heated
it to about 90F as I did for the first. When I went back to change the
Just a note from my last post. I took the temp of my failure to 140F and
then had a brainwave to add more methanol. I added 4 liters to the 45
gallons. I had almost imediate separation down to about 4 from the top. A
thin layer also was floating on top. Any ideas?
Brent
I noticed on my last batch, that if I heat the was prosess up a bit, that it
seems to work better(no white deposits). Is this a good way to do it? My
wash water comes staight out of the well and is very cold.
Brent
6.2 diesel
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methanol,(18.9 litres for 80 litres of oil) and mixed for one hour and 15
minutes. Could the problem be not enough lye?
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the cottage cheese. I took it to 100F and everything cleared up. I then took
the washed deiesel and shook it in a jar of water. It started to sepparate
almost immediately. Any coments? Did I just need to use warm water instead
of cold?
Brent
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diesel and the wash water. Am I needing more or less lie ro methanol?
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thinking that a paper coffee filter is over kill(not to mention slow). Would
a nylon stocking work?
Brent
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with a lot of minerals. Should I use snow water, or R.O. water?
Brent
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found greasy looking white deposits floating in it. I stained it and there
is a light film floating on top. It also isn't as clear as when I first made
it.
Is it usable? Can I just wash it again? Any other solution?
Brent
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50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or
sepparate, and the other two were ok.
Are these results consistant with what is expected from a good home brew
fuel?
Brent
Saskatchewan Canada
91 GMC 6.2
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Will traditional anti-gel work to use bio diesel in -40 weather, or is
someone working on one that will?
Brent
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Home Heating with BioDiesel
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:16
All I can say is ...GOOD. But then I am a promoter of organic farming. I
like to hear that chemical fertilizers are becoming cost prohibative.
Brent
From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For me it's a no brainer. There is so much waste wood around that I could do
all my heating with it, for free, and have wood left over.
Brent
From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [biofuel] Problem #1: How much does heat
Well, if I had alot of money, I might concider buying a ready made system.
The system on that website look very nice, and I can build one like it from
that. The problem I have is cost of the components. I would love to have a
conal tank system, but they cost around $300 each. So, I haven't got
I will stick to using a battery charger to make hydrogen. I am not a fan of
anything radioactive.
Brent
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:21:14 -0400
Here something about
I will reply to one of the questions. No I do not support nuclear energy. I
don't think it is clean energy when it produces waste that is hazardess for
hundreds of years.
Brent
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Some day when I have more time I will tell all what I am doing and hope to
do in the future. For now I am glad to see someone and a company that thinks
like you do. Where I work, in fact the province I live in has nothing eco
friendly when it comes to driving. We have 990,000 people and an
I think we all say the same things and agree that something needs to be
done, but I like to play devil advocate sometimes and spin things like
polaticians do to make the same data look totally different. I hope by doing
this it makes people stop, think, and maybe do some research of thier own.
Nothing will ever make sense when it comes to government and large
companies. You will never get the truth from any official. And no one will
listen to the conspirecy theories from the average person. So, the answer is
to do what we do, and make our lives a little better and let things go on
Heard a statistic on the radio today. Americans now have more cars than
drivers. Each household has 1.9 cars and 1.8 drivers. Interesting.
Brent
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Gas Prices Causing Alarm
I dont care much about the price of gas, it's the taxes that are most of the
problem. Anyone who drives through Saskatchewan would never guess that we
have a road tax on gas. when our gas price was about .60/litre, the price of
gas was only .28/litre. G.S.T., P.S.T., road tax, and a couple
When I contacted methanex, they would sell traincar loads to me but nothing
small enough to be practical. I payed about $6/4litres here in Saskatchewan,
and $30/20litres. I did get a sourse in Regina for a drum but am hoping the
price will be low when I get one. The price goes up in the winter
fat
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:29:34 +0900
Hi Brent
When you say cow's milk fat you mean butter?
Best
Keith
The link works.
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:22 AM, Brent S wrote:
Is the process the same? Your link didn't work for me.
Brent
From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Is the process the same? Your link didn't work for me.
Brent
From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] milk fat
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:27:07 -0700
Yes.
My first batch was .70/litre, my second was .60/litre, and my next batch
(110 litres) will cost .30/litre, which is about$1.20/ US gallon. Here the
price of petolium diesel is about .70/litre. The main cost is the methanol.
Brent
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 04:21:32 +0900
There isn't enough WVO to address the vehicle diesel replacement, but it
is
a good idea to use it where you
Keith
For one instance, what do householders do with it? Waste
collection/recycling isn't very effective unless it starts at the
source. That it only very seldom goes further than
industrial/commercial sources shows how poorly it's addressed. There
are quite a few cases here in Japan where
There isn't enough WVO to address the vehicle diesel replacement, but it is
a good idea to use it where you can. People look at me funny when I say to
try bio diesel, and I don't have a diesel myself yet. If I wanted to run a
oil furnace and a diesel vehicle, I would have a hard time to get
I think there needs to be some clarification about some things by someone. I
hear so much conflicting news. Today a story stated that the kyoto accord is
usless when the biggest polluters like Assia, India, and Russia, and even
Brazil don't participate in the accord. These are countries with
From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Smog Fighters Out Of Weapons? SoCal Smoggiest
Summer in 7 years?
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:43:16 -0500
It has been stated before that America has 3% of the world's
population
It has been stated before that America has 3% of the world's population but
produces much more polution percentage wise. I have one solution that no one
would like...raise the price of gas to match what us Canadians pay. That
would cut down the amout of driving done. Our price here in
Would that be from too much lie? I am using 4.5g/litre.
Brent
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: biodiesel layers
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:28:08 -
Brent most likely soaps, hope that helps. Answered since
ãSea level is the highest itâs ever been and climate is about as warm as
itâs ever been,ä
Bindschadler said. ãWeâre really moving into uncharted territory.ä
Warmest the planet has been? I live where an ocean used to be and near huge
deposits of dinosaur fossils. It was alot warmer at
. It
starts
to fall apart in the face of them.
Todd Swearingen
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Alaska is melting
Sea level is the highest it's ever been and climate is about
Yes it is the product from Saskatchewan.
Brent
From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] bio diesel conditioner
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:34:14 -0700
Is this the product from Saskatchewan?
On
They do reccomend using it at a .01% level. I can't see it doing any harm at
that low of a level. I also don't see much of a benafit either. But seems
people will buy it at $15/l rather than buy BD from me...go figure. Here is
the url http://www.milliganbiotech.com/index.html
Brent
From:
My BD reads 7-7.5, if they are saying that they have a canola based product,
then they must be adding something like methanol to get that high of a
reading. I don't understand your comment.
Brent
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I would be interested in the picture. I also am trying a similar process,
but using silica acrylate.
Brent
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Hello all,
Great idea, but it would only work where there are enough people making
diesel to justify the cost and time. These people would also not want to
dewater and filter their own oil. Where I live, I am the only one I know
that has even attempted to make diesel. In a metro area there might be more
2003 21:20:19 -0700
Brent S wrote:
I had a 1975 monte carlo with an LS6 454 engine. By using it's vacuum
guage,
it got the lowest vacuum at 65 mph. Run bellow that speed and you could
see
the gast guage move.
Brent
I had a 73 Chevelle with a 350, Doug Thorley headers
totally inaccurate. Go 40, take not of milage, go 50, take note again, go 60
take note again. That would be accurate.
Brent
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003
I had a 1975 monte carlo with an LS6 454 engine. By using it's vacuum guage,
it got the lowest vacuum at 65 mph. Run bellow that speed and you could see
the gast guage move.
Brent
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Too bad this formula doesn't work on cars in the real world.
Brent
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:48:24 -0500
The question is: How much you would benefit?
A
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] how much do you know
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:36:46 -0500
Brent S wrote:
Too bad this formula doesn't work on cars in the real world.
Could you clarify without being so vague ??
Perhaps you could provide a example, please
From: Forbes Bagatelle-Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Air resistance goes up dramatically as a function of speed, per the
following equation:
Power =
It all depends on the vehicle. Some will get the best milage at 40 mph and
some at 70 mph. If a car is run bellow it's optimum RPM range, it won't be
getting it's best milage. This is my own personal experience driving over
200 vehicles since I was 16. With a price of gas now at .70/litre
Congrats, what kind of license do you need to use biodiesel?
Brent
From: mark schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Sparkling bio-diesel
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:00:50 +0100 (BST)
Dear Todd
At last, I have the final
://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL
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Old car doesn't mean gas guzzler.
What we don't want is a situation where driving a gas guzzler becomes a
status symbol. We don't want people bragging that their vehicles get 10mpg
as a way to show how
Well, you have hit my hot buttons on this one. Let's not forget who is at
the centre of this debate, the oil industry and the auto makers. If the the
will was there from the oil companies and the auto makers, we could have the
best of all worlds. Too many jobs are at stake in these two
At one time I had the plans for a solar still. It was quite easy, and if I
could find a way to draw it from memory and get it into a net compatible
format, I would send it to you. But solar stills are possible.
Brent
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at once and used up all at once . This setup gets
water quite hot, and it should work well for water or for oil.
Do a search on the internet and you should be able to find a few
deigns for this kind of solar batch water heater...
mark
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Subject: [biofuel] solar colector ( was Re: price of methanol )
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:40:29 -0600
Do you have any pics. or drawings of it?
Greg H.
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...
mark
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I have concidered methanol recovery, but it will be in the future when I
am
set up better. How much of the methanol will stay in the glycerine? I am
still trying to source a cheaper supplier for methanol and will keep
going
It makes a big difference to me. The only major cost to me is methanol. The
first batch I made cost abot .70/litre that's $2.80/U.S. gallon, not
including any costs other than methanol and lye. pump price for diesel is
.72/litre. Need to get the cost down or no one will care how good bio is. I
, however, can get it for an inconsequential price... you may
want to explore methanol recovery
mark
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wrote:
It makes a big difference to me. The only major cost to me is
methanol. The
first batch I made cost abot .70/litre that's $2.80/U.S
I would be happy to pay $2/gallon. I pay $29/20litre pail, that works out to
$1.50/litre or $6.00/U.S. gallon.
Brent
From: Kim Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] price of methanol
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:22:12 -0700
Nothing new here. Cadalliac had an engine that ran on 4, 6, or 8 cylynders
20 years ago. I looked at a new dodge dakota with a 318 when they first came
out. The dakota had a feul rating of 25 mpg. I just laughed and walked away.
At that time I had a 1984 ford ranger that I put a 345 hp 350
I wish I could get it for $115/50 gallons...lol.
Brent
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] price of methanol
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:22:09 -0400
If you buy a tanker load of methanol, you can get it for $.82 a
I usually just lurk and see whats going on, but I think it is time to get on
the wagon and start using the knowledge I have gained from all of you and
other web sourses to find a small diesel vehicle and make my own bio diesel.
The price of gas here in Saskatchewan has hit .93/litre in Regina.
Where are you from? I am in Saskatchewan.
Brent
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Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:24:40 +
i live in canada and with cold weather apporoaching i am worried about being
able
These discoveries sound nice, but when a few large companies control the
resourses and can manipulate energy prices to justify further developement,
it just ends up taking money out of everyones pockets.
Here in Saskatchewan, as far as I know, we are the only Canadian province
that can't set
Is there anyone willing to put on this type of workshop in western Canada?
Brent
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I would like to make contact with anyong making and/or using biodeisel in
western Canada.
Brent
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