Well, yes I was speaking from my experience, the people that I interact
with and the society that I live in (which is Canadian - a facsimile of
the US). These people (yes I am generalizing) are generally too
content to make the mental effort, to engage thier conscience, to
consider that each
Oh yes this is dramatically better. So I wonder if he thought about how
that energy was generated, and then there is the little issue of just
what happens to the peak period when everyone's car is plugged in the
grid every night. Sheeesh. I thought rotating blackouts was already a
problem.
Dick Cheney has the answer. Nuclear power, clean and non-polluting
as he calls it, and between 1,200 and 1,900 new power plants over the
next two plus decades - the equivalent of more than one new, licensed
plant per week.
Any ideas as to what the fuel sources will be for those new generation
Ok so if we follow this line of thought to it's logical conclusion
where do we end up Todd? Yeah I know, 'The dark side'. Maybe the dark
side is where the real Jedi warriors reside and everyone has been
brainwashed to believe the opposite. It's the bizzarro world where
white is really black
Well, to be fair, in Sen. Lieberman's homestate, where I just so happen
to live, electrical generation is 11.8% Coal, 18.5% oil, 12.9% NG, 48.9%
nuclear, 1.5% hydro and 6.4% other (presumably renewables).
Even better, CT is targeting 20% renewables by 2010 and 50% renewable by
2020. Thus I
I guess I didn't make my point very clearly. I was thinking about
less. It seems like a lot of folks, even the ones who are so called
envronmentally conscious think that means finding ways to go on with
more for less impact or less cost. When I think of the word less I
think of actually
Congrats Joe!
At least one person on this list gets it.
Todd Swearingen
Joe Street wrote:
I guess I didn't make my point very clearly. I was thinking about
less. It seems like a lot of folks, even the ones who are so called
envronmentally conscious think that means finding ways to go on
Can't quite connect with all the metaphors Joe. But the inevitable end
of the Leibermans of the world failing to address reality is rather
obvious. Too bad that old geezers such as he won't have to reap what he
helps sew.
Todd Swearingen
Joe Street wrote:
Ok so if we follow this line of
Well Todd, you made my day! Thank you.
Joe
Appal Energy wrote:
Congrats Joe!
At least one person on this list "gets it."
Todd Swearingen
Joe Street wrote:
I guess I didn't make my point very clearly. I was thinking about
less. It seems like a lot of folks, even the ones
I think lots of people "get it" - didn't anyone else on this list live
thru the 70's?
But as soon as oil prices dropped we all "forgot it" and bought SUV's
and McMansions.
Talking about any kind of realization of change or sacrifice is
anathema. Terrorism? Go shopping.
Oil dwindling? Pass a
Joe,
If you mean we the Americans did not get it, you are right. This
list is international and without any Americans dominance.
We the Swedish did get it and have constantly worked on
energy efficiency and saving all the time since 1973.
Hakan
At 22:36 11/10/2005, you wrote:
I think lots of
It would make things a lot easier if life were such that woes were solved
in 30 minutes as on TV, but we all know that's not the case.
Unfortunately, for every 'enlightened' person that I come across who is
interested in alternative fuels, sustainability, and environmental
responsibility - there
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Someo
Hi Todd,
I vote for the devestating change to the American life style. Maybe everyone could just have a life.
Tom Irwin
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Sorry folks. But Senator Lieberman just doesn't get it.
Someone should suggest the following
Sen. Lieberman plans biofuel PHEV bill: legislative breakthrough
This is by far the most specific and far-reaching proposal to date.
-- Press release followed by news story:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/169
-- Speech excerpts, outline of plan and full text of speech:
Well this would sure help the coal and nuclear industries out with the
hybrids. If the power was from wind and methane digester great,
otherwise we would just get the rest of the carbon freed up in the air
-no? I like the biofuel idea though! or am I off base?
Felix Kramer wrote:
Sen.
Sorry folks. But Senator Lieberman just doesn't get it.
Someone should suggest the following as mandatory viewing as his primer.
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/
Hybrids won't solve the problems we face, especially when they're now
being engineered in ways that compromise their previous efficiency
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