Jason Katie wrote
ah yes, but the axle gears in a PU are at a minimum 4.00:1 if one were to
reduce this to , oh say 2.00:1 or even closer, then the direct drive (or
overdrive) gear in the trans would eliminate a lot of the stress of
travel.at 2:1 the max rpm would be 2k-2.5k and at overdrive
: [Biofuel] American diesels
Your best bet for a small US diesel car is a used MB 300D
Keith Addison wrote:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html
Diesel cars in the US
More or less complete I think.
Best
Keith
What year was it made?
Mike McGinness
Marty Phee
Thanks, Chip! I guess! Not our model but a cool site and hilarious logo.
Jesse
From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:14:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Mike Weaver wrote
Harris
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American
diesels
Ford planning on buying Cummins and also introducing a hybrid diesel.
F150 are all ready running in target cities with diesels.
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Doug.
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From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:57 AM
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The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not
Mazda like the small ones. Everyone
Your best bet for a small US diesel car is a used MB 300D
Keith Addison wrote:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html
Diesel cars in the US
More or less complete I think.
Best
Keith
What year was it made?
Mike McGinness
Marty Phee wrote:
My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L
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The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not
Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here seems to like the 6 cylinder
Cummins diesel's in the dodge pickups, but not the ford or chevy V8
ones
It's still in production
Mike McGinness wrote:
What year was it made?
Mike McGinness
Marty Phee wrote:
My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel.
Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote:
Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars.
The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Thank you!
I can use this information.
Jonathan
lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Jeep Diesel engine was the Italian VM engine, the same that was
fitted
to some European cars. VM was connected with Jeep/Chrysler but was
taken
over
the engine, the know how and needs the place and name.Doug - Original Message - From: Craig Harris To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Ford planning on buying Cummins and also introducing a hybrid diesel
? Or
somewhere in Moose Jaw, that's the question.
Jesse
From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:06:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Your best bet for a small US diesel car is a used MB
been slipping a bit for two years without change. Fix it first? Or
somewhere in Moose Jaw, that's the question.
Jesse
From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jason Katie wrote.
actually, the big Cat 4cylinders can be shoehorned into a full sized
pickup,
and they get about 20 mpg in the rigs they were designed for. in the
smaller
PU's
Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars.
The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo
diesels.
Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L
range.
Mark
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Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I run ASTM D6751; and it is a rubber eater.
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From: Jason Katie
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
american diesel motors run just as well on BD
The Cummins is a big 6, not a V8...
Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote:
Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars.
The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels.
Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L range.
Mark
My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel.
Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote:
Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars.
The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels.
Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L range.
Mark
Well I run ASTM D6751; and it is a rubber eater.
How do you know it's ASTM D6751?
Keith
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jason Katie
To: mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgBiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:07 PM
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The Jeep Diesel engine was the Italian VM engine, the same that was fitted
to some European cars. VM was connected with Jeep/Chrysler but was taken
over by GM causing the parts prices for the VM through Jeep to go through
the roof.
The Chev Blazer Diesels had 6 volts for the glow plugs, 12 volts
Hello Jan,
I run an '87 Nissan Sentra diesel on BD, 100% this
time of year, and less during the colder winters up her in the Great White North
(Canada). My buddy runs a 20% blend (of my fuel) year 'round in a '95 Ford
pickup...
Al
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From:
Jan Warnqvist
Thank you! I can use this information. Jonathanlres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jeep Diesel engine was the Italian VM engine, the same that was fittedto some European cars. VM was connected with Jeep/Chrysler but was takenover by GM causing the parts prices for the VM through Jeep to go
You can (or could) buy low mileage Toyota diesel engines and
transmissions from a guy on Ebay working out of Florida. Toyota diesels
are pretty bullet-proof and I've used them in Africa - they're great.
They are a bolt-in for almost US Toyota products.
-Mike
Jonathan Dunlap wrote:
Thank
: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
american diesel motors run just as well on BD, but they dont get the fuel
economy, and are not as valuable pound for pound ans the sturdier european
designs, mostly because they were only meant to run in big trucks or poorly
The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not
Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here seems to like the 6 cylinder
Cummins diesel's in the dodge pickups, but not the ford or chevy V8
ones much I think Isuzu actually makes the new chevy ones now,
but not sure on that.
-
From: Jason Katie
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
american diesel motors run just as well on BD, but they dont get the fuel
economy, and are not as valuable pound for pound ans the sturdier european
designs, mostly
I'm pretty out of touch these days w/ big diesels - our old Ford NA's
were ok, but we had tranny problems.
The 6.2 GM's seemed to run ok but didn't have much power.
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not
Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here
Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not
Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here seems to like the 6 cylinder
Cummins diesel's
Older Ford 3/4 and 1 ton pickups were available here in the states with a 6.9 liter and 7.3 liter V8 naturally aspirated IDI diesel engine made by International/Navistar. They were available up until 1994 when Ford replaced them with the
7.3 liter Powerstroke, which was a DI turbocharged engine,
Title: RE: [Biofuel] American diesels
I'm pretty sure the diesel available in the current Jeep Liberty is a Mercedes 2.7 and it's a pricy option at around $5,000.
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Thank you!
I can use this information.
Jonathan
lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Jeep Diesel
Hmmm. Our school bus has the international DT466 (inline 6), from
1981, with about 400k miles so far (one rebuild on it so far), and
runs great still.
I think that taking care of the engine can make a big difference --
I've actually heard of people who have gotten 150k miles on the GM 5.7
liter
is a
Mercedes 2.7 and it's a pricy option at around $5,000.
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Jonathan Dunlap
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Thank you!
I can use
What year was it made?
Mike McGinness
Marty Phee wrote:
My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel.
Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote:
Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars.
The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels.
Im not sure there is a 4
Ford planning on buying Cummins and also introducing a hybrid diesel. F150
are all ready running in target cities with diesels.
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From: Mike Weaver
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:52
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel
Mike
The Toyota Diesel engines into the US Toyota pickups, Hilux, 4Runner, Surf
and many more is an easy transplant from 4 cylinder petrol/gas to 4 cylinder
diesel as you say.
For Toyota the Bellhousing needs to be changed along side the engine change
as the starter is on the opposite side in
Zeke
My Chev 350 petrol/gas 4 X 4 has more than 400K miles on it and have not
taken a head off yet. Runs a fog of blue on initial start up and then is
fine. It does need a rebuild to stop the blue hugh on starting.
Some train engines as part of their technical specifications must be able to
Zeke,
The Jeep is available in the diesel manual transmission with VM as an export
unit only through Denmark as far as I can find.
Doug
From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Nope
Diesels are not very common here. Most available are VW's and Mercedes
but it is true trucks and jeeps can be bought with diesel but it adds a
lot to the price. I think the extra for a cummins diesel on a pickup
truck is something like $3000.00 extra. Easier to go find a used VW
plus most
Jan,
US does not have a requirement for cars to be
certified for biofuels, Europe had this since
1996, which means that all gasoline are certified
for ethanol (I do not know if it is E100 or E85)
and diesels for B100, after 1996. If the American
diesel is not available in Europe, it is not
about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of
about 7 liters. No
small trucks and no sedans.
Jan Warnqvist wrote:
Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning
BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering
american diesel motors run just as well on BD,
but they dont get the fuel economy, and are not as valuable pound for pound ans
the sturdier european designs, mostly because they were only meant to run in big
trucks or poorly advertised, overpriced cars.
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The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick
shift model.
The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of
the 70's. Miserable cars.
The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The
GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models
Well I run ASTM D6751; and it is a rubber eater.
- Original Message -
From: Jason Katie
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:07
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American
diesels
american diesel motors run just as well on BD
Jan,
I have done some testing on two vehicles the Dodge cummins year 2000 (I
understand the newer ones wont take it well) and a 2004 Ford power
stroke. these are off road tests. in both cases Fuel economy went up 1-3
mpg with a very slight power increase ~ 5 -20 HP this is at 1500 ft
above
I noticed the engine running quieter but couldn't tell if there was any
real difference in power or mileage.
JJJN wrote:
Jan,
I have done some testing on two vehicles the Dodge cummins year 2000 (I
understand the newer ones wont take it well) and a 2004 Ford power
stroke. these are off road
Message -
From: Jason Katie
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
american diesel motors run just as well on BD, but they dont get the fuel
economy, and are not as valuable pound for pound ans the sturdier european
Quieting down (and less black smoke) is the most noticeable effect
I've seen as well.
On 5/18/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I noticed the engine running quieter but couldn't tell if there was any
real difference in power or mileage.
JJJN wrote:
Jan,
I have done some testing on
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