Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-12 Thread Keith Addison
] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel Dag Pieter Hello, Sorry if I start talking about something you are not talking about, because I did not follow this discussion, but I think I can make up that you try

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-12 Thread Pieter Koole
Velen bedankt, maar in een 3rde Wereld dorpje is wallpaperglue nie so maklik te vind, en jy kan dit ook nie maklik self maak van locally available renewable resources. Veel dank, maar in een 3e wereld dorpje is behangplaksel niet zo makkelijk te vinden en je kan dit ook niet makkelijk zelf

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
... Beste wense Keith Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel There is (apparently) more than one recipe

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-11 Thread Pieter Koole
kan u dit verstaan... Beste wense Keith Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel There is (apparently

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-10 Thread Pieter Koole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly Pieter, The broken soap is nothing more than free fatty acids, with a glycerol/alcohol/water/residual-acid layer beneath it and (if using potassium hydroxide

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-10 Thread Appal Energy
:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly Pieter, The broken soap is nothing more than free fatty acids, with a glycerol/alcohol/water/residual-acid layer beneath it and (if using potassium hydroxide as the original catalyst) solid fertilizer beneath that. FFAs in their pure form

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-10 Thread Keith Addison
There is (apparently) more than one recipe for sterno. We had a thread going a while back that included a method: calcium acetate (egg shells and vinegar) with ethanol. This is from a previous message on ethanol gel: Keith Addison wrote: Mix 11 grams of Calcium Acetate with 30 mg of

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-10 Thread Pieter Koole
strong glue. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel There is (apparently) more than one recipe for sterno

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Weaver
the old super ball was broken. I feel that I now have super glop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Appal Energy Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:51 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly But is the jelly

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-09 Thread Pieter Koole
And what can you do with the broken soap ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly Derick, Still, treat a small

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-09 Thread Jeffrey Tan
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 13:22:32 -0300 Hi D Giorchino The mess you have made can be a new dicovery of solid biofuel . jelly solid ethanol has good market as the future biofuel for rural areas as identified by UN. Try to acess about

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-09 Thread TarynToo
, Interesting to note that jelly solid ethanol has the attention of the UN. Is there anywhere I can extract this literature? Thanks. Jeff MALAYSIA From: Pannirselvam P.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Redler
There is (apparently) more than one recipe for sterno. We had a thread going a while back that included a method: calcium acetate (egg shells and vinegar) with ethanol. MikeTarynToo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't "jelly solid ethanol" Sterno fuel? Or is Sterno made with methanol?It's hard to

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-09 Thread Appal Energy
groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly Derick, Still, treat a small sample with concentrated sufuric or phosphoric acid and observe. Todd

RE: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-09 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel HI there Pannirselvam, Interesting to note that jelly solid ethanol has the attention of the UN. Is there anywhere I can extract this literature? Thanks. Jeff MALAYSIA From: Pannirselvam P.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-08 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Hi D Giorchino The mess you have made can be a new dicovery of solid biofuel . jelly solid ethanol has good market as the future biofuel for rural areas as identified by UN. Try to acess about the possbility of mixing your mess with ethanol jelly fuel.Thus the big problem of

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-08 Thread Appal Energy
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Appal Energy Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:51 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly But is the jelly a typical sign of over dosing? I have a problem with disposing of the mess I have made if there is a way to salvage

RE: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-07 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Hi Keith More Thanks for you response. I tried the world famous chop stick titration technique. Wow what a difference in my titration #. I did a 1 ltr test in a soda bottle, with excellent result almost instantly. But here is where I got into trouble. The next batch was 20 liters I had some

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-07 Thread Appal Energy
But is the jelly a typical sign of over dosing? I have a problem with disposing of the mess I have made if there is a way to salvage it. Take a small sample and see how much concentrated sulfuric or phosphoric acid it takes to crack the soap portion of the top jelly layer. This is the same

RE: [Biofuel] RE: jelly

2005-08-07 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
: [Biofuel] RE: jelly But is the jelly a typical sign of over dosing? I have a problem with disposing of the mess I have made if there is a way to salvage it. Take a small sample and see how much concentrated sulfuric or phosphoric acid it takes to crack the soap portion of the top jelly layer