[biofuels-biz] Re: speedy separation on a large scale

2002-12-09 Thread gjkimlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi James, we have been using dairy cream separators to continually remove glycerol. There are some problems though if the glycerol gets cool too quickly it clogs up the plates. A simple precipitate trap like the water trap in a fuel line only bigger has given good separation at times. Its

[biofuels-biz] Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Interesting to read this four years later. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998 /08/10/MN1650.DTL Perilous Lifeline to West Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf Frank Viviano, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, August 10, 1998 FIRST

[biofuels-biz] Re: Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf

2002-12-09 Thread hcr_ii [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I guess that as long as oil exists, political wrangling will partner it as nations/individuals strive to control its supply. There are tighter controls here in the UK over biofuel production than over food production. Personally I would rather risk my engine than my health but I can guess who

Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit?? Why not turn it in to ethanol. Truely is a a shame James Slayden BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry?? ;-) On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:

Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit?? Why not turn it in to ethanol. Truely is a a shame James Slayden BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry?? ;-) Hi James Ethanol and biodiesel - there's a lot of oil in that fruit, 282 gallons an acre, it

Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
Hmm, forgot about the oil content, Sheesh, one man's trash is another's treasure On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote: Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit?? Why not turn it in to ethanol. Truely is a a shame James Slayden BTW murdoch, you have

[biofuels-biz] Re: ethanol racing story

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
Part 2 appears to have come out today and is more focused on the case for bringing ethanol (after appropriate testing and lobbying) into the IRL and other American racing series. http://www.evworld.com/databases/printit.cfm?storyid=462 It's not going to change the on-track product, he said.

Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
Yes, it was impossible not to think that as they showed pictures on local TV of dumping fruit (using bulldozers? I don't recall) into pits dug in the Earth. Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit?? Why not turn it in to ethanol. Truely is a a shame

Re: [biofuels-biz] Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:54:56 +0900, you wrote: Interesting to read this four years later. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998 I remember seeing a video of this situation, on 60 minutes or one of those shows, awhile back. An issue that seems to be in need of

Re: [biofuels-biz] biofuels-homebrew problems

2002-12-09 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Padraig, What makes you so sure it is methyl stearate? Do you have a reference for this perhaps? By the way, did you ever receive that paper I sent you entitled Kinetics of Palm Oil Transesterification In a Batch Reactor by D. Darnoko Munir Cheryan ? I have received no

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
This is criminal and not a practical joke. I could track them down to ISP, connection port and exact time. The ISP could clearly identify the connection and customer. I reported this vandalism to the ISP and police. To fix it, it took me 3 hours, so I forwarded a claim of $225. I also took

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hackers - was Re:Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
What does Captain Crunch mean to you? Breakfast cereal. I'm familiar with this Captain Crunch and a few of the other stories, LOD vs. MOD, etc. I think I read both Mitnick books, his version and the one documenting the effort to catch him. While I'm sure some of the links you provide are

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hackers - was Re:Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM snip And, if you haven't already done so, you really should read William Gibson's Sprawl SF cyberpunk trilogy: Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive. It's a bit amazing that Neuromancer was written in 1982, long before the WWW, though Gibson says he's a technological

[biofuel] Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Interesting to read this four years later. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998 /08/10/MN1650.DTL Perilous Lifeline to West Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf Frank Viviano, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, August 10, 1998 FIRST

[biofuel] The big picture Was: Hackers - Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread csakima
hm I'm getting a bit annoyed about all this talk about hacker. Reason?? Cause I'm a hacker!! well sorta. I'm the original type of hacker. The kind that finds out by accident that the Captain Crunch whistle happens to be the right tones that .And it is very

[biofuel] speed limits in Europe

2002-12-09 Thread Kim Garth Travis
While I realize that it has been 14 years since I was in Europe, I am disappointed to hear the the back roads of France now have speed limits. Bright Blessings, Kim Hakan Falk wrote: It is only in Germany that you have no speed limit and this is on a very low percentage of their roads.

Re: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan Keith, First I want to tell you that any loss of power in todays vehicles in my mind does very little change. I have a licence to drive anything on wheels and the practical experiences that it implies. During my life time I have been driving around 3,000,000 km in almost any vehicles

Re: [biofuel] The big picture Was: Hackers - Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hey Curtis :-) I was hoping to prise you out of the woodwork, I just didn't realize it'd be you. I'm not too surprised. You're a fone phreak? Anyway, cheer up. A bit better than slaves, a bit worse too - but by any definition there are probably only a few hundred million of them, it isn't

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-09 Thread Ken Provost
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote: The powers-that-be aren't nearly as all-powerful as they try to tell us. Plenty of spreading cracks in their concrete. Their single greatest weakness is extreme short-sightedness. It's bad for everyone else too, of course, but

Re: [biofuel] Casual Observations

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
WOW!! Really scary site. Take a look under the database of field trials and ya get to see all the nice GMO foods out there, country, and GMO supplier. Now I know where Crichton get's his story line from James Slayden On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, k5farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We added more

[biofuel] A robot in our midst?

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Talking of hackers, or whatever, does anybody know anything of list member Olivia Trusdale [EMAIL PROTECTED]? A member of other lists too, and she only ever posts news from Grist magazine: Check it out - with a link. Usually it's in response to stuff we've already had, sometimes even the

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote: The powers-that-be aren't nearly as all-powerful as they try to tell us. Plenty of spreading cracks in their concrete. Their single greatest weakness is extreme short-sightedness. It's bad for everyone else too, of course, but

Re: [biofuel] A Really Dumb Idea

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
Tailgate http://www.ford.com/en/ourVehicles/environmentalVehicles/ethanolVehicles.htm There are links from there to check which models/years. James Slayden On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Kim Garth Travis wrote: What year Rangers? What do you mean by 'gate'? Bright Blessings, Kim James

Re: [biofuel] A Really Dumb Idea

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
sorry, here is a better link: http://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/2000/BBRANGER.PDF Looks like the 3.0L(182 CID) FFV SEFI V-6 is the model to look for James Slayden On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Kim Garth Travis wrote: What year Rangers? What do you mean by 'gate'? Bright Blessings, Kim

Re: [biofuel] A robot in our midst?

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
It sounds like a robot. This is not to say that the articles are poor or that I don't admire the chutzpah of it even if I resent it, but it sounds like a bot. As long as we're on the topic, make sure when you write someone like that (as I'm pretty sure you're aware) that the subject line does

[biofuel] Re: ethanol racing story

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
Part 2 appears to have come out today and is more focused on the case for bringing ethanol (after appropriate testing and lobbying) into the IRL and other American racing series. http://www.evworld.com/databases/printit.cfm?storyid=462 It's not going to change the on-track product, he said.

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
Yes, it was impossible not to think that as they showed pictures on local TV of dumping fruit (using bulldozers? I don't recall) into pits dug in the Earth. Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit?? Why not turn it in to ethanol. Truely is a a shame

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Conflict-ridden Caspian basin is the world's next Persian Gulf

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:54:56 +0900, you wrote: Interesting to read this four years later. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998 I remember seeing a video of this situation, on 60 minutes or one of those shows, awhile back. An issue that seems to be in need of

[biofuel] Use of Renewable Energy Took a Big Fall in 2001

2002-12-09 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/12.10F.renewable.htm Use of Renewable Energy Took a Big Fall in 2001 By Matthew L. Wald Friday, 6 December, 2002 WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 -- Consumption of energy from renewable sources, like the sun, the wind and biological fuels, fell sharply in 2001,

Re: [biofuel] A robot in our midst?

2002-12-09 Thread martin
Looks like an interesting 'hit-miner' operation. pseudo-spam mailing lists about things targetted to their audience and get people to click on the links? I'd email the webmaster and ask them. Keith Addison wrote: I thought Olivia's weird link might be what you get when you use the Grist

[biofuel] Car power inverter on sale

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
Hola Biofuelers, There is an 400watt Auto DC/AC Power inverter on sale at Target. Since the cost of the Greasecar/Neoteric's oil pumping unit may be beyond some of our pocketbooks, the inverter w/ a 110AC pump might be a substitute. It looks like it has both battery clips and a optional

Re: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden
Hi Hakan, On the note of Socitial Acceptance, it is more than just a Big vs. Small issue, it is a usage issue by the public. If a consumer 'perceives' some sort of limitation in the acceptance and usage of a alternative fuel, then the business case will have to overcome and be able to sustain

Re: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables

2002-12-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Keith, I like to give it a final round and then try to write something and like a response. Also to give some more people opportunity to input. I thought that this subject was important and worth an attempt. But to get everybody involved, hackers seems to be more interesting and I see

Re: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables

2002-12-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi James, In most bootstrapping businesses that I experienced and have seen, your comment is a very important part. In a market it is many activities of promotion. In the beginning most of them from local environment, but also from large players that want to prime the markets. This is going

RE: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables

2002-12-09 Thread rwenham
Sounds good to me Good luck raw -Original Message- From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:32 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables Hi James, In most bootstrapping businesses that I experienced and have

[biofuel] Global Diesel Differences

2002-12-09 Thread Thom Strange
Hello All, I'm looking for a concise description of the differences between European (global if you know) and US diesel fuel (BTU, Sulphur content, refinement processes, etc), exhaust systems (Catalytic converters, emission controls, etc), as well as any other significant combustion and/or

Re: [biofuel] Car power inverter on sale

2002-12-09 Thread girl mark
That is unfortunately fairly low-power for most of the pumps I've seen... which range from 6 amps to 8 amps, a lot higher than the 3 or so amps that 400 watts would let you drive. And there's always the possibility of asking at restaurants you get your grease from, and then plugging in to wall

Re: [biofuel] Bio fuel business-Tables

2002-12-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi again James, I forgot to tell you that a natural defense area for the smaller companies, is precisely the niche markets or for one that wants to have a platform to enter the market in a late stage. The niches is safe territory to operate from, quite like how the military build its

[biofuel] Somebody hacked KHVH - Honolulu

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.khvh.com/ 1010110 1110101 1001100 1010100 1110101 1010010 110011 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email

[biofuel] Karrick LTC of Coal

2002-12-09 Thread kirk
Very interesting http://www.rexresearch.com/karrick/karric%7E1.htm A far superior method exists to manufacture oil from coal. It is a little-known but very attractive, proven method called Low-Temperature Carbonization (LTC). The process was perfected by Lewis C. Karrick, an oil shale

[biofuel] Lewis C.Karrick US Patents ~ Low Temperature Carbonization of Coal

2002-12-09 Thread kirk
patents on this page http://www.rexresearch.com/karrick2/kltcusp.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages