Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators
Well...? If you're gonna' call me cynical, don't you think a response is in order? And it's not so much cynicism as it is outright disdain for a policy corrupt of any goal further than the end of a Washingtonian's nose. Cynicism would require an offering or promise of which one could have doubt. Unfortunately there's no doubt about the the direction Bush would care to take energy policy. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kumar Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators Whoa Todd, we're on the same side. I just felt like the NBB alert was at least a good reminder that we should sometimes write our senators. And I re-iterate, I hope to hell the Bush Energy Plan does not go through. Kumar Plocher Yokayo Biofuels - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators Aww gee. I wonder where all that cynicism comes from. Around here landowners put up their purses 20 years ago to a water company that was going to put lines through on every county road. Their still waiting. Maybe all that cynicism has something to do with energy to cheap to meter, (sure, if all the costs are subsidized by taxpayers...but then shouldn't the taxpayers be getting such energy at a discount, rather than at 25%-50% higher costs?) Or maybe it has something to do with the weakening of air and water quality standards in favor of more coal? Or maybe it has something to do with the rollbacks or intentionally stunted momentum of all that was achieved as a result of the Arab Oil Embargo a quarter century ago? Or maybe it has something to do with the subsidy inequities that keep fossil fuel industries at the top of the heap and reaping the disproportionate share of the benefits? Or maybe. oh maybe hell! What it has to do with is being flat fed up, sick and tired of seeing the future being sold out from underneath the public through every slick and shady piece of legislation that comes along the pike. Where the hell is the last conservation or efficiency measure that any of these fizzywigs passed, much less effected? About the only aspect of solar energy that Washington knows about is found in all its sunset clauses relative to renewables. You sure don't find as many abandon ship phraseologies in fossil or nuclear legislation. Can you spell Price Anderson? The whole damned country is still waiting for two thirds of the enactments of the 1992 Energy Policy Act to become a reality rather than a paper weight. But please, feel free to shabbily ridicule healthy cyniscism as if it were an old sock not fit to be chewed on. Such dismissal makes the appearance of doing something - even if it amounts to nothing or going backwards - all the more palatable. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kumar Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators I, too, am opposed to the Bush Energy Plan, but I see the comments from Keith and Todd as, well, at least a little cynical. I mean, between something and nothing, I'd like to at least see something. And lest people say that's a lesser of two evils way of thinking, I'd like people to know, I voted for Nader ;) Anyway, I sent a letter to Boxer and Feinstein (CA senators), and it was about biodiesel, not the Bush Energy Plan. Kumar Plocher Yokayo Biofuels - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators A bit difficult to endorse a bill for the purposes of biodiesel when the same bill is laden with guarantees and bennies for the nuclear, coal and oil industries Besides, just exactly how much further is that going to propel the soy industry, complete with GMO, heavy pesticide and herbicide use and entrenched mega-agri-corps? Naw. I think I'd rather see biodiesel ride on its own merits, as would I like to see the nuclear industry, oil and coal industries, rather than them all being subsidized by taxpayers. Todd Swearingen Well, yes, now that you come to mention it... g Best Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:05
[biofuels-biz] Rich Countries' Greenhouse Gas Emissions Ballooning
http://ens-news.com/ens/jun2003/2003-06-09-02.asp Rich Countries' Greenhouse Gas Emissions Ballooning BONN, Germany, June 9, 2003 (ENS) - The emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from Europe, Japan, the United States and other industrialized countries could grow by 17 percent from 2000 to 2010, despite measures in place to curb them, according to a new United Nations report. Greenhouse gases blanket the Earth, trapping the Sun's heat close to the planet's surface. Based on projections provided by the governments themselves, the report is under consideration at a two week meeting of the UN Climate Change Convention's 190 member governments that opened at the Maritim Hotel in Bonn Wednesday. It is intended to help governments plan their future climate change strategies. These findings clearly demonstrate that stronger and more creative policies will be needed for accelerating the spread of climate friendly technologies and persuading businesses, local governments and citizens to cut their greenhouse gas emissions, said Joke Waller Hunter, executive secretary of the UN Climate Change Convention. Joke Waller-Hunter of the Netherlands is executive secretary of the United Nations Climate Change Convention. (Photo courtesy IISD/ENB-Leila Mead) Emissions rose in all major economic sectors, including energy, transport, industry and agriculture. The exception was waste management, where emissions declined slightly. The figures do not include emissions and removals from land use change and forestry. Governments adopted a more comprehensive set of policies and measures during 2000 and 2001 for addressing their emissions such as emissions trading, carbon taxes and green certificate trading. The greatest number of policies and measures are being put to use in the energy sector. The value of this report, an official UN document entitled Compilation and Synthesis of Third National Communications, has been improved by the growing quantity, quality and timeliness of the underlying national reports, called national communications, the Climate Change Convention Secretariat says. Thirty-one third national communications from developed countries have been submitted along with 100 initial national communications from developing countries. The emissions of Central and Eastern European countries are starting to increase as their economies recover from early and mid-1990s lows, says the report based on projections provided by these governments. Developed countries saw their combined emissions fall during the 1990s, by three percent, due to a 37 percent decline in the emissions of Central and Eastern European countries. Greenhouse gas emissions billow from the Corus Steel Works, Teesside, England (Photo by Ian Britton courtesy FreeFoto) Most of the reductions in the emissions from developed countries was due to the steep economic decline in the countries of eastern Europe and the former USSR, resulting from the transition from centrally planned to market economies and associated structural changes, the secretariat says. In recent years most of these countries have experienced appreciable economic growth which is projected to lead to increased emissions in the future. Greenhouse gas emissions in the highly industrialized countries as a whole rose by eight percent from 1990 to 2000. According to the report, the European Union's total emissions decreased by 3.5 percent from 1990 to 2000, with individual member states varying between a decrease of 19 percent and an increase of 35 percent. Emissions increased in most other highly industrialized countries - five percent in New Zealand, 11 percent in Japan, 14 percent in the United States, 18 percent in Australia, and 20 percent in Canada. With very few exceptions, the secretariat says, the reporting governments underlined the importance of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol in shaping their domestic climate policy responses. They said their emissions reduction targets under the protocol are a first step towards long term and continued emission reductions. This international treaty under the UN Climate Change Convention requires 37 industrialized countries to reduce their emission of six greenhouse gases an average of 5.2 percent of 1990 emissions during the five year period 2008-2012. The protocol broke new ground with three innovative mechanisms - joint implementation, the clean development mechanism (CDM) and emissions trading. These aim to maximize the cost effectiveness of climate change mitigation by allowing parties to the protocol to pursue opportunities to cut emissions, or enhance carbon sinks, more cheaply abroad than at home. Trucks emit greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (Photo by Kevin Chandler courtesy NREL) The cost of curbing emissions varies considerably from region to region as a result of such differences as energy sources, energy efficiency and waste management. The parties may
[biofuels-biz] Striking It Poor: Oil as a Curse
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/07/arts/07BANK.html?pagewanted=printposition= June 7, 2003 Striking It Poor: Oil as a Curse By DAPHNE EVIATAR The pipes are already laid in southern Chad, where they snake south underground through tropical forests from the oil fields of Doba to a marine terminal off the coast of neighboring Cameroon. At the port of Kribi, the 660-mile pipeline will empty up to 250,000 barrels a day of coveted crude into tankers waiting to transport the unctuous black gold to Western markets. The largest energy infrastructure development in Africa, the Chad-Cameroon pipeline is to begin operation later this year. Built by a consortium of oil companies led by Exxon Mobil, it is expected to provide average annual revenue of $50 million. The World Bank Group has invested more than $180 million in the project, insisting that the pipeline's profits could significantly improve the lives of Chad's residents, most now living in squalor, by paying for services like health care, education, paved roads, electricity and sewer systems. Many critics find that assessment surprising, given that scholarly studies for more than a decade have consistently warned of what is known as the resource curse: that developing countries whose economies depend on exporting oil, gas or extracted minerals are likely to be poor, authoritarian, corrupt and rocked by civil war. And now a draft of a report commissioned by the bank itself has essentially concluded that the bank's previous efforts to promote such projects in poor countries has done more harm than good. Both former bank officials and outside academics have complained that bank policy often contradicts the expert research. There's a big disconnect between World Bank operations and World Bank research, said William Easterly, an economics professor at New York University who spent more than a decade as a senior adviser at the bank. There's almost an organizational feud between the research wing and the rest of the bank. The rest of the bank thinks research people are just talking about irrelevant things and don't know the reality of what's going on on the ground. In this latest case, using the bank's own internal documents, the report's author, Melissa A. Thomas, found that the bank had for years focused on promoting foreign investment in these industries without considering how the countries' governments were managed and what they were likely to do with the money. As a result, she said, in most of the nations studied - Chile, Ecuador, Ghana, Kazakhstan, Papua New Guinea and Tanzania - the bank's work had not achieved its development goals. Even when the bank made loans conditional on a country's promise to make public how it had spent its revenues, the projects did not produce economic benefits. Ms. Thomas, a political economist at the University of Maryland, concluded that the bank should stop financing these so-called extractive industries in countries whose governments lack the capacity to benefit from or manage such investment. Rashad Kaldany, director of the oil, gas, mining and chemicals department of the World Bank Group, said it was awkward for me to comment, because the report was still a draft, but added: We certainly feel that the issues of good governance and corruption are of paramount importance for development. This is what we're focusing on more and more in all our activities. But scholars are skeptical. You get the sense that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at the World Bank, said Scott Pegg, a political science professor at Indiana University. He relied on World Bank research for a recent report - commissioned by Oxfam America, Friends of the Earth, Environmental Defense, Catholic Relief Services and the Bank Information Center - that sharply criticizes the impact of extractive industries in Africa. Academics hired by the bank have criticized its work before. Some of the most important research on the resource curse has been done by bank economists. In a pioneering 1988 book issued as a World Bank Research publication, Oil Windfalls: Blessing or Curse?, Alan H. Gelb, chief economist for the bank's African regional office, found that contrary to assumptions popular at the time, oil wealth had made conditions in most countries worse. And Paul Collier, an Oxford University economics professor who now heads the bank's development research group, has demonstrated repeatedly that oil, gas and mining wealth has fueled brutal civil wars. Advocacy groups have used these findings to urge the bank to stop supporting oil and gas projects. Bank officials say they have taken steps to respond to the failings pointed out by critics. Last year the bank began a formal review of its support for these industries. We said from the outset that if there's a broad consensus that these projects don't contribute to development, and if the World Bank Group's role is not
[biofuels-biz] The NY Times and the ADM Scandal
The Agribusiness Examiner June 9, 2003, Issue #256 Monitoring Corporate Agribusiness From a Public Interest Perspective EDITOR\PUBLISHER; A.V. Krebs E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB SITE:http://www.ea1.com/CARP/ Commentary: Questioning Current NY Times Reporting Occasions Revisiting Paper's Handling Of ADM Scandal Amidst the daily headlines and media self-flagellation surrounding the methods employed by certain members of the New York Times staff in reporting all the news that's fit to print along with the resignations of two of its top editors, the highly questionable reporting of the paper's Kurt Eichenwald concerning the 1990's Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) price-fixing scandal continues to remain largely ignored. For while it may come as a surprise to many, before the Enron, WorldCom, Arthur Anderson scandals became page one news a far more aggrievious crime in the suites, affecting a much larger clientele than its sexy predecessors was unfolding. From its inception THE AGRIBUSINESS EXAMINER has been tracking the story of how ADM, the nation's largest grain processing company, has become a veritable symbol of corporate crime, corruption and political influence peddling. Only a few publications at the time bothered to report the many and varied aspects of this case --- a classical study in white collar crime. One paper who did publish stories on what would become a scandal involving a variety of multinational corporations and high government officials was the New York Times. However, how fairly the Times and its correspondent covered the scandal that was ADM would come under sharp attack as was recounted in this newsletter two years ago. In light of the questions now being raised about how the Times reports its stories it is both illuminating and instructive to revisit those charges leveled against the paper and Eichenwald. Challenging not only the veracity of his reporting and his willingness to serve the interests of ADM and its Washington, D.C. influence peddling law firm of Williams and Connolly, but the unwillingness of his employer to deal with such conduct, author Kurt Eichenwald and the New York Times became the subject of scathing allegations after the publication of his book The Informant. In a series of over some 30 documented letters --- all unanswered to the Times Managing Editor William Keller, ADM Shareholders Watch Committee co-founder David Hoech accused Eichenwald of unethical conduct and the Times' actions and inactions as just another example of a 'Corporate Predator' that will do whatever it takes to make a buck. Eichenwald's book which advertised itself as a true story, purported to describe how the FBI was ready to take down America's most politically powerful corporation. But there was one thing they didn't count on. THE INFORMANT. Curiously nowhere on the book's cover, its dust jacket, or in the full-page advertisements for the book that later appeared in the Times is America's most politically powerful corporation mentioned by name. Rather the book's main focus centered around the story of Mark Whitacre, the former ADM executive who acted as an FBI mole for three years uncovering a vast international corporate conspiracy led by ADM to fix the price of lysine, a feed additive for livestock and poultry, and his often unaccountable conduct throughout the legal battles that followed the exposure of the company's illegal activities. As Hoech noted in his Letter #5: Having dealt with Eichenwald for over five years concerning the ADM saga, I know he marches to a different drummer than most of the reporters I have worked with, and I assume the Times knows this also. When Eichenwald tells me that he controls what is printed in the Times concerning Archer Daniels Midland, I can now believe him. GREED VS GREED Unlike the authoritative and well-documented Rats in the Grain: The Dirty Tricks and Trials of Archer Daniels Midland The Supermarket to the World by James B. Lieber (Four Walls, Eight Windows Press, New York: 2000), Eichenwald's book, in Hoech's words, simply sought to depict Whitacre as a freak while giving protection to ADM, Williams Connolly and the Justice Department who were all involved in covering up the criminal activity of the Andreas crime family who still run ADM. After Whitacre exposed ADM, Lieber writes, the media mobbed the story, touting it as a David and Goliath parable. After the exposer was exposed, the press drifted away. Good versus evil inside a multinational corporation was front-page news. Greed versus greed was buried in the business section, if it made the paper at all. In a tabloid culture, he noted, trials of gruesome crimes generate the most news. Searing tragedies for those involved, they become gladiatorial spectacles for the rest of us. But bloodless while collar trials say more about the way the world works, and it is my personal bias that it makes sense to pay more
[biofuels-biz] New Data Show Emissions From Non-Road Diesel Engines
http://ens-news.com/ens/jun2003/2003-06-09-09.asp New Data Show Emissions From Non-Road Diesel Engines BERKELEY, California, June 9, 2003 (ENS) - New emissions data reveals that particulate matter in nonroad diesel engines, which power tractors, bulldozers, trains and ships nationwide, account for nearly 50 percent of all particulate matter pollution. Metropolitan areas in New York, Los Angeles, Houston, Boston and Chicago top the list for the amount of emissions of particulate matter from these engines, according to an analysis released today by the Union of Concerned Scientists. The highest emissions of smog forming nitrogen oxides were found in the Los Angeles and New York metropolitan areas. Texas, California, Illinois, Louisiana and Ohio have the highest particulate matter emissions. The report compiled and analyzed the latest emissions inventory from the Environmental Protection Agency and California Air Resources Board. It found that in the New York metropolitan area, non road diesel engines emitted more tons of particulate matter than in any other area evaluated. Four major metropolitan areas along the East Coast corridor - Boston, New York, Philadelphia and Washington D.C./Baltimore - have some of the highest concentration of nonroad diesel emissions in the country. Despite substantial progress in technologies that reduce diesel pollution, a double standard allows non road engines to pollute at high levels, said Patricia Monahan, author of the new report, Cleaning up Diesel Pollution: Emissions from Off-highway Engines by State. Unlike diesel trucks and buses, construction and agricultural equipment are held to weak standards, and public health pays the price, Monahan said. It is imperative that we hold all diesel engines to the same standard. Diesel exhaust particles are small enough to be inhaled deep into the lungs and have been linked to cancer and premature death, as well as serious respiratory illness. The dangers of diesel exhaust have led to stricter tailpipe standards for highway trucks and buses over the past 30 years. But nonroad engines are allowed to pollute at much higher levels. While particulate pollution from highway vehicles has been cut in half over the last two decades, emissions from nonroad engines have increased 23 percent. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently proposed a rule that would reduce emissions from new non road diesel engines by 90 percent. Though the current proposal would exclude trains and ships from stricter emission standards, the EPA estimates that by 2030, the rule could prevent 9,600 premature deaths and save $81 billion per year. The EPA under Christie Todd Whitman has given us a good proposal, one of the very few environmentally sound actions of the Bush administration, said Kevin Knobloch, executive director of the Union of Concerned Scientists. But it is still just a proposal. Without Whitman at the helm, there is considerable chance this rule will be undermined. The stakes for public health are too great to let that happen. A recent analysis by an association of state air regulators found that diesel exhaust - a mixture of nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, arsenic, dioxin and mercury - increase the incidence of cancer in the United States by as many as 125,000 additional cases over a 70 year lifetime. The Union of Concerned Scientists study breaks down pollution data on non road diesel engines and other mobile sources in all states, counties and major metropolitan areas. The report also provides a cost analysis of producing cleaner engines, finding that for one to three percent of the cost of equipment, pollution controls for particulate matter and nitrogen oxide can cut emissions by 90 percent or more Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] European Parliament Backs Tough Marine Sulfur Rule
http://ens-news.com/ens/jun2003/2003-06-06-02.asp European Parliament Backs Tough Marine Sulfur Rule STRASBOURG, France, June 6, 2003 (ENS) - The European Parliament this week voted almost unanimously for strict sulfur limits in marine fuels, going far beyond proposals tabled by the European Commission. A 1.5 percent limit on marine fuel sulfur content should initially apply throughout the European Union, said Members of the European Parliament (MEPs), and they want an even stricter limit of 0.5 percent to take effect two years later. The current marine fuel sulfur content is around 2.7 percent. Before the first reading vote a series of compromise amendments had been negotiated with the support of all parties, the result being significantly at odds with proposals put forward by rapporteur Heidi Hautala. Hautala has since left the parliament to return to national politics in Finland. Her replacement, Alexander de Roo, said the parliament's position would cut shipping sulfur emissions by 80 percent compared with just 10 percent forecast under the Commission's proposals. The parliament has shown it is determined to tackle air pollution from boats, said de Roo. The Commission proposals were limited to the implementation of a Marpol agreement on a 1.5 percent sulfur cap and only in three special zones: the North and Baltic seas and the English channel. The restrictions would come in 12 months after the law enters into force. QE2, the Queen Elizabeth 2, the flagship of the Cunard Line. (Photo by Ian Britton courtesy FreeFoto) But the parliament has voted for a lower sulfur limit, to take effect six months earlier, and to be extended to all EU waters by 2010. Furthermore, there would be a second stage of cuts, to 0.5 percent sulfur, applicable from 2008 in the three pollution control zones and on ferries, and from 2012 in all EU waters. The limits would apply to shipping registered anywhere in the world and regardless of their originating port. The parliament's position could well spark conflict with EU ministers, and if confirmed in law then with major flag states at the International maritime organization. Sources say EU governments have been slow to tackle the draft directive under the Greek presidency, a major shipping state that reportedly views even the Commission proposals as excessive. In other business this week the parliament backed European Commission proposals for earlier prohibition of single hull tankers entering EU ports. An attempt to ban them from entering EU waters at all was rejected. Meanwhile, the assembly backed a ministerial deal on implementing the Cartagena Biosafety Protocol with regard to trade in genetically modified organisms, with minor amendments agreed in advance with the council. Parliament also approved at second reading an electricity market liberalization law that will bring in tougher energy mix disclosure rules. MEPs still want the council to accept slightly stronger requirements with more information on the environmental impact of power generation. {Published in cooperation with ENDS Environment Daily, Europe's choice for environmental news. Environmental Data Services Ltd, London. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Archer Daniels Midland: Price Fixer to the World
Archer Daniels Midland: Price Fixer to the World by John M. Connor, Department of Agricultural Economics, Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1145, Staff Paper # 00-11, December 2000. can be viewed at: http://agecon.lib.umn.edu/cgi-bin/pdf_view.pl?paperid=2871ftype=.pdf (1.5Mb Acrobat file) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] ADB unveils guidelines on vehicle pollution reduction
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2003-06/10/content_912870.htm ADB unveils guidelines on vehicle pollution reduction Xinhuanet 2003-06-10 17:59:33 MANILA, June 10 (Xinhuanet) -- The Asian Development Bank (ADB) Tuesday launched a set of policy guidelines to help decision makers in the Asian and Pacific region cut down on vehicle emissions. The guidelines, prepared under a regional technical assistance project, will assist ADB's developing member countries to monitor air pollution, develop anti-pollution policies, build capacity, and allocate investment funds, the Manila-based multilateral lending agency said. A regional approach to information exchange, capacity building, policy formulation, pilot projects, and studies is a cost-effective approach to help national and local governments, Jan van Heeswijk, the bank's regional and sustainable development department chief, said at the launch at the ADB headquarters. Air pollution kills almost half a million people in Asia every year, the bank said, blaming most of this pollution on emissions from buses, trucks, motorcycles and other forms of transport. As Asia's cities continue to expand, the rising number of vehicles will result in even greater pollution unless effective action is taken, it warned. It is essential that decision makers in government and the private sector develop a better understanding of the economic and social implications of air pollution, van Heeswijk said. Charles Melhuish, ADB's lead transport sector specialist and project team leader, said decision makers in Asia need to adopt an integrated approach in cleaning up pollution from vehicles. They will need to adopt stricter emission standards for new and in-use vehicles, ensure the availability of cleaner fuels, and mandate regular inspections and better maintenance, he said. Apart from these measures, they need to improve traffic management to ensure a smoother flow of traffic so as to reduce emissions, he said. At the launch, it was announced that eight private sector companies are joining forces with governments and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) in the ADB-backed Clean Air Initiative for Asian Cities (CAI-Asia) to bring blue skies back to Asia. The companies, including Shell and Ford Motor Company, will bring financing and undertake activities to improve quality management, along with 20 of the largest cities in Asia and 60 national government agencies, NGOs, and universities that earlier joined the CAI-Asia. The ADB, the World Bank and the United States-Asia Environmental Partnership provide logistical and financial supportto the initiative, which was founded in 2001 in Bangkok to promoteand demonstrate innovative ways to improve the air quality of Asian cities through the sharing of experience and building of partnerships. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] We're ready to pay to boost renewable energy, poll finds
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/06/10/1055220595490.html theage.com.au - The Age We're ready to pay to boost renewable energy, poll finds June 11 2003 By Rod Myer Eighty-three per cent of Australians would be willing to pay an extra $3.50 on their monthly power bills if that was the price of boosting the Federal Government's mandatory renewable energy target to 10 per cent by 2010, according to a poll conducted by Greenpeace. Greenpeace climate specialist Catherine Fitzpatrick said: This clear response is the strongest indication yet that Australians are willing to pay more for clean, renewable energy. Support for the proposal to boost the MRET target to 10 per cent was strongest among the young (90 per cent), white-collar workers (87.5 per cent), those earning above $60,000 (92.9 per cent) and full-time workers (87 per cent). Queensland backed the proposal most enthusiastically of all the states, with a 91 per cent approval rating, while Tasmania (which already generates most of its power from renewables) was the weakest with 68.9 per cent. Greenpeace said the $3.50-a-month figure chosen as the cost impost on the average household was a result of work done by a range of sources. Industrial electricity users have opposed boosting MRET, saying it would push up their costs dramatically and price them out of overseas markets. The Energy Action Group consumer watchdog has also opposed the move, saying a better environmental and cost outcome would be gained by mandating energy-efficiency measures for houses, factories and electrical appliances. The Commonwealth Government is now reviewing the present MRET target of a boost to renewable generation of 9500 gigawatt hours, or less than 2 per cent, by 2010. * Renewable energy producer Pacific Hydro recently announced it had formed a joint venture with Carnegie Corporation and Seapower to explore the possibilities of generating electricity from wave power. Meanwhile the Australian Wind Energy Association claims the number of wind power projects under construction has doubled in the past six months to 227 megawatts. New projects granted approval have jumped 33 per cent to 400 megawatts. However, most of these new projects would not go ahead unless the MRET target was boosted significantly, an organisation spokesman said. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] US high court to decide local diesel vehicle ban
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/21134/story.htm US high court to decide local diesel vehicle ban USA: June 11, 2003 WASHINGTON - The U.S. Supreme Court saidit would decide whether a federal clean air law pre-empted California regulations that prohibit the purchase of new diesel-fueled vehicles. The South Coast Air Quality Management District, a local air-quality district for the Los Angeles area, adopted the rules in 2000. They prohibit operators of a fleet of 15 or more vehicles from purchasing new diesel-fueled vehicles. The rules apply to various operators of public and private fleets of motor vehicles, including transit buses, airport shuttles, limousines, taxis, street-sweepers and waste haulers. The rules require fleet operators to buy only vehicles using low-emission gasoline or alternative fuel. The Engine Manufacturers Association and the Western States Petroleum Association challenged the rules, arguing they were pre-empted by a section of the federal clean air law that bars any local standard for the control of emissions from new motor vehicles. A federal judge in California and a U.S. appeals court based in San Francisco said the rules were not pre-empted because they did not impose emission standards. The two trade groups appealed to the high court, saying the case involved an issue of national importance. Backing them were the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, the Truck Manufacturers Association and the American Trucking Association. The Supreme Court will hear arguments in the case and issue its ruling in its next term, which begins in October. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Veg-oil lubricant/Complex mixing of fuels
Burning oil mixed with fuel - at least in a low compression gas engine leads to more pollution. (Think of a 2 cycle engine) The best bet is to use syn oils, as these tend to be more stable, evaporate into the atmosphere less and significantly prolong engine life. Castor oil is good for old resto aircraft enginee that leak constantly and was, therefore, constanly replenished. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] contaminated Biodiesel
Hello all, My name is Adrian, and I have a little problem. I recently bought a 1982 GMC Suburban as a work truck. It has a 6.2L diesel engine, which excited me, since I could start running Biodiesel in it. but it had been sitting for two years. I gradually switched from regular diesel to Biodiesel, and after 2 weeks of running pure B100 in it, I changed the primary and secondary fuel filters. About a week and half ago (2 months after I bought the truck) it hesitated and stalled. Eventually, it just died. I checked the filters, and found a little water in the secondary. I have towed it home, and pumped the tank dry. I suspect that the ultimate problem was water or fungus in the fuel. My question is thus- After I am done purging the fuel lines of ANY foreign matter, I am sitting here with 20+ gallons of B100. The final gallon from the very bottom of the fuel tank is in a glass jar that after 2 days of settling, has a 1/2 to 1 inch thick layer of whitish scum at the bottom of it. I would rather not throw away all of the other biodiesel that I have. What can I do to refine it to a more useable state? Pump it all into glass jars, and suck the good biodiesel out of the top, and leave the debris? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to contact me offline if you wish to save bandwidth for other subscribers. Adrian Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Why did Bush cite forged evidence?
http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdfs_108/pdf_inves/pdf_admin_iraq_nuclear_evidence_june_10_let.pdf June 10, 2003 The Honorable Condoleezza Rice Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs The White House Washington, DC 20500 Dear Dr. Rice: Since March 17, 2003, I have been trying without success to get a direct answer to one simple question: Why did President Bush cite forged evidence about Iraq's nuclear capabilities in his State of the Union address? Although you addressed this issue on Sunday on both Meet the Press and This Week with George Stephanopoulos, your comments did nothing to clarify this issue. In fact, your responses contradicted other known facts and raised a host of new questions. During your interviews, you said the Bush Administration welcomes inquiries into this matter. Yesterday, The Washington Post also reported that Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet has agreed to provide full documentation of the intelligence information in regards to Secretary Powell's comments, the president's comments and anybody else's comments. Consistent with these sentiments, I am writing to seek further information about this important matter. Bush Administration Knowledge of Forgeries The forged documents in question describe efforts by Iraq to obtain uranium from an African country, Niger. During your interviews over the weekend, you asserted that no doubts or suspicions about these efforts or the underlying documents were communicated to senior officials in the Bush Administration before the President's State of the Union address. For example, when you were asked about this issue on Meet the Press, you made the following statement: We did not know at the time -- no one knew at the time, in our circles -- maybe someone knew down in the bowels of the agency, but no one in our circles knew that there were doubts and suspicions that this might be a forgery. Of course, it was information that was mistaken. Similarly, when you appeared on This Week, you repeated this statement, claiming that you made multiple inquiries of the intelligence agencies regarding the allegation that Iraq sought to obtain uranium from an African country. You stated: George, somebody, somebody down may have known. But I will tell you that when this issue was raised with the intelligence community... the intelligence community did not know at that time, or at levels that got to us, that this, that there were serious questions about this report. Your claims, however, are directly contradicted by other evidence. Contrary to your assertion, senior Administration officials had serious doubts about the forged evidence well before the President's State of the Union address. For example, Greg Thielmann, Director of the Office of Strategic, Proliferation, and Military Issues in the State Department, told Newsweek last week that the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) had concluded the documents were garbage. As you surely know, INR is part of what you call the intelligence community. It is headed by an Assistant Secretary of State, Carl Ford; it reports directly to the Secretary of State; and it was a full participant in the debate over Iraq's nuclear capabilities. According to Newsweek: When I saw that, it really blew me away, Thielmann told Newsweek. Thielmann knew about the source of the allegation. The CIA had come up with some documents purporting to show Saddam had attempted to buy up to 500 tons of uranium oxide from the African country of Niger. INR had concluded that the purchases were implausible - and made that point clear to Powell's office. As Thielmann read that the president had relied on these documents to report to the nation, he thought, Not that stupid piece of garbage. My thought was, how did that get into the speech? Moreover, New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof has reported that the Vice President's office was aware of the fraudulent nature of the evidence as early as February 2002 - nearly a year before the President gave his State of the Union address. In his column, Mr. Kristof reported: I'm told by a person involved in the Niger caper that more than a year ago the vice president's office asked for an investigation of the uranium deal, so a former U.S. ambassador to Africa was dispatched to Niger. In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the C.I.A. and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged. The envoy reported, for example, that a Niger minister whose signature was on one of the documents had in fact been out of office for more than a decade The envoy's debunking of the forgery was passed around the administration and seemed to be accepted - except that President Bush and the State Department kept citing it anyway. It's disingenuous for the State
[biofuel] Re: Sweet Wankel diesels...
Here are few of my favorite links. Weight is a big issue when it comes to fuel economy. Deisel engines are heavy, so unless you're using one for a gen set, the lighter the better. I've been researching ultrlight aircraft engines keeping my eye on ceramic composite engines. Hopefully as we all perfect this bio-fuel issue, the engines will only get better. One last thought, I can't help but notice how well the new anodized frying pans work as non-stick surfaces. Much better than teflon 2. http://www.deltahawkengines.com/ http://www.ultrahardmaterials.co.uk/ceramic_rotary_engine.htm http://www.dair.co.uk/ http://www.wilksch.com/ http://www.markelmotor.com/empresa/fotos.htm http://nctn.hq.nasa.gov/innovation/Innovation54/complic.htm http://auto.howstuffworks.com/news-item221.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Ethanol from bread waste?
I used to make moonshine in the '70's. Started out experimenting for fuel, but its so much work with so little pay off that it was better to drink the stuff. 100 proof was easy, I would get a couple of mason jars from 20 galons of beer. I used everything from sugar yeast to pure corn sour mash. Used to spit it into the fire to impress my friends. Sugar beets are pretty promising. Bread should work, it will smell like a bakery. Another source; undrank soda pop. Can't tell you how many cokes I've poured out at parties. Imagine a day when you pour your left over sodas or beer out before throwing the can in the recycle bin. Bars could be a good source. Imagine developing collection systems behind the bar for the bartenders to pour left over beer into for you to collect later. Half the work would already be done for you! Then its all in the distillation process. You also might want to consider solar stills vacuum stills to save on heating fuel. A vacuum solar still would be fantastic. (vacuum's lower the boiling point). I kind of agree with the sarcastic response about feeding pigs. Some bread companies collect used bread dry it into crutons. The longer something can remain in the food chain the better, its just a shame we can't dry it or make stuffing send it to 3rd world countries. If its just going into the trash then, go for it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Veg-oil lubricant/Complex mixing of fuels
- Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many years ago race cars ran on castor bean oil. I think they promptly drained them after the race however. I was told the high heat caused the oil to gel once it cooled. Was the best lubricant around at the time though. Kirk Castrol R or Mobil P, both castor based oils are still the prefered lubricants in the worm/wheel diffs as fitted to Peugeot 203,403,404. Regards, Paul Gobert. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] contaminated Biodiesel
I believe that you answered your own question. Place all the fuel in one settling tank and recover all that grvitates towards the top. As for suspect fuel, it's possible that the new fuel was problematic. Were it from a batch of poorly converted fuel that had a high level of mono- or di-glycerides these could have mixed with water in your tank to form the muck that you describe. Chances are that if the fuel was partially incomplete you would have been displacing a whitish colored smoke from your exhaust, perhaps even at idle. You would owe it to yourself to conduct a sample transesterication of the settled fuel to see if anymore glycerin settles out. That could confirm that the fuel's reaction didn't go to completion. Even if it hadn't, you could probably get away with putting it back in your tank if you knew the tank was void of water. This is yet another good argument for having tanks cleaned or at least thoroughly flushed when switching to biodiesel. It's bad enough having to deal with all the gundge that's been deposited by petrol diesel over the years. But the level of water oft found in petrol diesel and that settles out to the bottom of the tank can further exacerbate problems of an incomplete biodiesel. Should it be presumed that you are the manufacturer of the biodiesel? Or are you one of the rare few that has access to a commercial pump in Cali that is dispensing B-100? If the latter, you have an obligation to inform both the distributor and vendor of your problem. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Adrian Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:37 AM Subject: [biofuel] contaminated Biodiesel Hello all, My name is Adrian, and I have a little problem. I recently bought a 1982 GMC Suburban as a work truck. It has a 6.2L diesel engine, which excited me, since I could start running Biodiesel in it. but it had been sitting for two years. I gradually switched from regular diesel to Biodiesel, and after 2 weeks of running pure B100 in it, I changed the primary and secondary fuel filters. About a week and half ago (2 months after I bought the truck) it hesitated and stalled. Eventually, it just died. I checked the filters, and found a little water in the secondary. I have towed it home, and pumped the tank dry. I suspect that the ultimate problem was water or fungus in the fuel. My question is thus- After I am done purging the fuel lines of ANY foreign matter, I am sitting here with 20+ gallons of B100. The final gallon from the very bottom of the fuel tank is in a glass jar that after 2 days of settling, has a 1/2 to 1 inch thick layer of whitish scum at the bottom of it. I would rather not throw away all of the other biodiesel that I have. What can I do to refine it to a more useable state? Pump it all into glass jars, and suck the good biodiesel out of the top, and leave the debris? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to contact me offline if you wish to save bandwidth for other subscribers. Adrian Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New Scientist
Pretty amazing. Kirk http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3817 The World's No.1 Science Technology News Service Icy claim that water has memory 19:00 11 June 03 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition Claims do not come much more controversial than the idea that water might retain a memory of substances once dissolved in it. The notion is central to homeopathy, which treats patients with samples so dilute they are unlikely to contain a single molecule of the active compound, but it is generally ridiculed by scientists. Holding such a heretical view famously cost one of France's top allergy researchers, Jacques Benveniste, his funding, labs and reputation after his findings were discredited in 1988. Yet a paper is about to be published in the reputable journal Physica A claiming to show that even though they should be identical, the structure of hydrogen bonds in pure water is very different from that in homeopathic dilutions of salt solutions. Could it be time to take the memory of water seriously? The paper's author, Swiss chemist Louis Rey, is using thermoluminescence to study the structure of solids. The technique involves bathing a chilled sample with radiation. When the sample is warmed up, the stored energy is released as light in a pattern that reflects the atomic structure of the sample. Twin peaks When Rey used the method on ice he saw two peaks of light, at temperatures of around 120 K and 170 K. Rey wanted to test the idea, suggested by other researchers, that the 170 K peak reflects the pattern of hydrogen bonds within the ice. In his experiments he used heavy water (which contains the heavy hydrogen isotope deuterium), because it has stronger hydrogen bonds than normal water. Unexplained results After studying pure samples, Rey looked at solutions of lithium chloride and sodium chloride. Lithium chloride destroys hydrogen bonds, as does sodium chloride, but to a lesser extent. Sure enough, the peak was smaller for a solution of sodium chloride, and disappeared completely for a lithium chloride solution. Aware of homeopaths' claims that patterns of hydrogen bonds can survive successive dilutions, Rey decided to test samples that had been diluted down to a notional 10-30 grams per cubic centimetre - way beyond the point when any ions of the original substance could remain. We thought it would be of interest to challenge the theory, he says. Each dilution was made according to a strict protocol, and vigorously stirred at each stage, as homeopaths do. When Rey compared the ultra-dilute lithium and sodium chloride solutions with pure water that had been through the same process, the difference in their thermoluminescence peaks compared with pure water was still there (see graph). Much to our surprise, the thermoluminescence glows of the three systems were substantially different, he says. He believes the result proves that the networks of hydrogen bonds in the samples were different. Phase transition Related Stories Oil and water do mix after all 19 February 2003 Bizarre chemical discovery gives homeopathic hint 7 November 2001 For more related stories search the print edition Archive Weblinks Physica A DigiBio, Jacques Benveniste Martin Chaplin, South Bank University US National Center for Homeopathy Martin Chaplin from London's South Bank University, an expert on water and hydrogen bonding, is not so sure. Rey's rationale for water memory seems most unlikely, he says. Most hydrogen bonding in liquid water rearranges when it freezes. He points out that the two thermoluminescence peaks Rey observed occur around the temperatures where ice is known to undergo transitions between different phases. He suggests that tiny amounts of impurities in the samples, perhaps due to inefficient mixing, could be getting concentrated at the boundaries between different phases in the ice and causing the changes in thermoluminescence. But thermoluminescence expert Raphael Visocekas from the Denis Diderot University of Paris, who watched Rey carry out some of his experiments, says he is convinced. The experiments showed a very nice reproducibility, he told New Scientist. It is trustworthy physics. He see no reason why patterns of hydrogen bonds in the liquid samples should not survive freezing and affect the molecular arrangement of the ice. After his own experience, Benveniste advises caution. This is interesting work, but Rey's experiments were not blinded and although he says the work is reproducible, he doesn't say how many experiments he did, he says. As I know to my cost, this is such a controversial field, it is mandatory to be as foolproof as possible. Lionel Milgrom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM
RE: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead
I don't see how the mtbf will be low enough with each car self propelled and guided. SOunds like wishful thinking. Kirk -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:59 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead Aren't they called trains? -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Keith Addison wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2966094.stm BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK Self-drive cars ahead End in sight for traffic chaos? In the future technology will drive cars for us, eliminating road rage and accidents and making traffic jams a thing of the past. This is the view of BT's resident futurologist Ian Pearson, who is convinced that it will be technology rather than tolls that can solve the UK's current traffic crisis. The only real solution to traffic congestion may be to stop people from driving cars, he said. I don't mean that we shouldn't have and use cars, just that they should be driven by computers and not humans, electronically tethered to cars in front and behind, he said. Bypassing jams If the trials are successful, we may see all new cars fitted with the system by 2010, making it impossible to speed Ian Pearson, futurologist Mr Pearson envisages traffic systems that allow cars to drive centimetres apart at high speed, with cars joining flowing traffic much more easily thanks to computers' micro-second reaction time. Using this technology we may not have the thrill of driving a powerful car on an empty road, but with the growth of traffic, that's an option that even today is open only to relatively few of us, he said. Already traffic navigation systems are allowing cars to bypass jams, although they work at the moment because only few people have them. As more and more motorists take advantage of such systems to beat the queues, they are likely to find new queues on the bypass route. Broadband help Another solution, already being tested, is to have car engine management systems linked to local speed limits using on-board GPS receivers. If the trials are successful, we may see all new cars fitted with the system by 2010, making it impossible to speed, said Mr Pearson. As we wait for sophisticated technology solutions to traffic chaos, existing broadband connections can also play a part in reducing traffic on the roads. Having a fast net service means more people are avoiding the roads altogether and choosing to work from home. The internet can also provide people with round-the-clock and up-to-date information on public transport as another alternative to gridlocked roads. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead
Naw. They're computer controlled and independently moving - no tethers. Makes one wonder how bad the snarls on I-5 would be the first time an onboard computer went AWOL, or exactly how other vehicles could handle a catastrophic condition that would instantaneously send a vehicle into a less than desireable trajectory. And what would happen in such an event were the operator to be drinking tea and eating crumpets while reading the morning paper? Following closer than the madmen and women already do on the 5 seems to be a recipe for disaster, perhaps more so than any other aspect of metro-commuter driving. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead Aren't they called trains? -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Keith Addison wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2966094.stm BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK Self-drive cars ahead End in sight for traffic chaos? In the future technology will drive cars for us, eliminating road rage and accidents and making traffic jams a thing of the past. This is the view of BT's resident futurologist Ian Pearson, who is convinced that it will be technology rather than tolls that can solve the UK's current traffic crisis. The only real solution to traffic congestion may be to stop people from driving cars, he said. I don't mean that we shouldn't have and use cars, just that they should be driven by computers and not humans, electronically tethered to cars in front and behind, he said. Bypassing jams If the trials are successful, we may see all new cars fitted with the system by 2010, making it impossible to speed Ian Pearson, futurologist Mr Pearson envisages traffic systems that allow cars to drive centimetres apart at high speed, with cars joining flowing traffic much more easily thanks to computers' micro-second reaction time. Using this technology we may not have the thrill of driving a powerful car on an empty road, but with the growth of traffic, that's an option that even today is open only to relatively few of us, he said. Already traffic navigation systems are allowing cars to bypass jams, although they work at the moment because only few people have them. As more and more motorists take advantage of such systems to beat the queues, they are likely to find new queues on the bypass route. Broadband help Another solution, already being tested, is to have car engine management systems linked to local speed limits using on-board GPS receivers. If the trials are successful, we may see all new cars fitted with the system by 2010, making it impossible to speed, said Mr Pearson. As we wait for sophisticated technology solutions to traffic chaos, existing broadband connections can also play a part in reducing traffic on the roads. Having a fast net service means more people are avoiding the roads altogether and choosing to work from home. The internet can also provide people with round-the-clock and up-to-date information on public transport as another alternative to gridlocked roads. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:31:59 -0700, you wrote: murdoch wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into the same trap we have done with Oil? Where does it end? Why does such a great country have to just demand such massive energy imports when it could manufacture or harvest more of its own energy? I've been complaining about this problem to anyone who will listen for quite some time now. Today, for the first time, a friend acknowledged that I have a point about natural gas supplies--but only AFTER he'd heard about Greenspan's remarks. Nobody wants to hear the truth! Indeed. Also, I forgot to add conservation to the several additional areas we should be exploring more in earnest. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: highway speed findings
My loving wife generally drives faster than I do, but she won't drive in Los Angeles because of the sheer volume of traffic. Personally, I think I'm safer on the roads there than up here. But then, wouldn't it be better if we could all limit the need to drive at all? The older I get, the more important this principle seems to me. FWIW, I do agree that this is not an unimportant principle. Before driving somewhere I will consider the options. Generally I will opt for staying nearby and local if it's an errand that can be taken care of with a walk. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Self-drive cars ahead
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:18:33 -0500, you wrote: Naw. They're computer controlled and independently moving - no tethers. Makes one wonder how bad the snarls on I-5 would be the first time an onboard computer went AWOL, or exactly how other vehicles could handle a catastrophic condition that would instantaneously send a vehicle into a less than desireable trajectory. And what would happen in such an event were the operator to be drinking tea and eating crumpets while reading the morning paper? Following closer than the madmen and women already do on the 5 seems to be a recipe for disaster, perhaps more so than any other aspect of metro-commuter driving. Todd Swearingen The issue of how closely they're programmed to follow each other is distinct from the issue of whether they're self-driven. I was surprised to learn they'd be programmed to follow more closely than humans presently do, but I'll wait to see why they're proposing this. They may want to clear up traffic, but they'll have to do a better job of planning for breakdowns, individual vehicle errors, etc. In the opinion of the futurist who was quoted in the article, the future will also allow automatic speed-limit enforcement, something you don't mention, and which would mean that speeds, and differentials, are lower than they are now. That, I guess, will be up to the individual areas where this takes place, and what the results are. Intelligent programmers would not have to wait for folks to die before they corrected for problems, but one suspects some folks will go down as guinea pigs, just as they have with non-self-driven-cars. Some of your what would happen questions are equally as scary, or moreso if we ask what would happen were a human to make an error (which does happen, at present, sometimes resulting in death and maiming). My own questions will be, in part, how much safer (a matter of degree) is this (if at all) and, in the event of a failure, are the injuries worse and can it be built into the system to compensate for this as well? If a person is not driving but his computer is, obviously he's in an accident when his computer fails. So, which would happen more often, and with what results? I don't dismiss ideas out-of-hand if I can find some flaws in them. The present solution, of humans driving, is not remotely close to perfect. I'm open to ideas which can reduce the problems, if that can be done. MM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: highway speed findings
Absolutely. This is a critical part of the use of renewable fuels - conservation and fuel efficiency are how you overcome the objections that we can't possibly supply our needs with renewables. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 07:05 AM, murdoch wrote: My loving wife generally drives faster than I do, but she won't drive in Los Angeles because of the sheer volume of traffic. Personally, I think I'm safer on the roads there than up here. But then, wouldn't it be better if we could all limit the need to drive at all? The older I get, the more important this principle seems to me. FWIW, I do agree that this is not an unimportant principle. Before driving somewhere I will consider the options. Generally I will opt for staying nearby and local if it's an errand that can be taken care of with a walk. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM - ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Searching for a processor
Hi Pam, I would suggest that you contact a few environmental groups as well as agricultural associations and ask them if they know of anyone or even a group such as a biodiesel cooperative that might be making biodiesel in your area. If there is anyone making it, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to pick up your grease, as long as you do your part by keeping the grease as contaminate free and possibly even doing a coarse filtering and then putting it in appropriate containers. Good luck. Hope this helps. Chris pam wrote: Hi...My family owns a restaurant in Virginia. We are having major problems disposing of used restaurant cooking oil. There is only one grease pick-up company in the area and they have not picked-up oil in almost a year dispite prepayment. Do you have ANY information on alternative processors? Thanks - Pamela Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] cleaning out storage tank
Howdy. I have a 500 gallon mobile storage tank that was usde by a construction firm. It looks like a giant barrel on wheels. I imagine it needs a good cleaning. Any suggestions for how to clean this out before filling with biodiesel? Thanks. aaron in wisconsin Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Unions Back Research Plan for Energy
Shrub has a printing press fred On Thursday, Jun 12, 2003, at 09:36 US/Eastern, Appal Energy wrote: But they said the union leaders decided to delay sending the letter because they were waiting for several of the nation's largest environmental groups to sign on. Funny that. Environmental groups and so inclined people have been waiting for a quarter of a century for the unions to sign. I wonder how it is that now the argument has substance and merit, yet during the preceding decades it was riddled and torpedoed every step of the way by the same unions and trade groups? Who says that job security, squeezing the last drop of oil out of the Earth and envrionmentalism can't go hand in hand? I suppose that everyone's supposed to be adult about things now and put the greater good before all else, as if the pantywaste attitudes of those who kept and continue stalling environmental gains are something above juvenile and petty self interest. I know. get over it, .right? Forgive and forget is the mantra for the new millenium. Wonder where Shrub is gonna' get that 300 billion to secure the union and trades votes, especially after having just given it all away. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: [biofuel] Unions Back Research Plan for Energy http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/06/national/06LABO.html Unions Back Research Plan for Energy By STEVEN GREENHOUSE Ten labor unions, including the steelworkers and auto workers, urged presidential candidates yesterday to back a 10-year, $300 billion research plan that would promote energy efficiency, reduce dependence on foreign oil and preserve manufacturing jobs. Labor leaders said the plan, called the Apollo Project, would foster energy independence by promoting hybrid and hydrogen cars and energy-efficient factories and appliances. Supporters said the project would help make the United States the leader in these areas and would help preserve factory jobs after the nation had lost more than two million manufacturing jobs in the past two years. The plan's backers said they hoped it would improve ties between labor and the environmental movement, groups that have clashed in recent years on issues like emissions standards and energy exploration. We believe this plan can create good manufacturing jobs, good construction jobs, can improve the public infrastructure, can be good for the environment and can reduce our dependence on foreign energy, Leo Gerard, president of the United Steelworkers of America, said at a news conference. The plan is also backed by the United Mine Workers, the Service Employees International Union, the International Association of Machinists and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. Several supporters said that labor leaders had planned to send a letter yesterday to Democratic presidential candidates and President Bush. But they said the union leaders decided to delay sending the letter because they were waiting for several of the nation's largest environmental groups to sign on. We are very, very excited, said Carl Pope, executive director of the Sierra Club, which is considering whether to support the plan. It is not that any of these ideas are radically new. What is radically different is the commitment on the part of a huge segment of American organized labor to organize the rebuilding of blue-collar America around modern environmentalism and sound energy technology. The plan calls for more financing for high-speed rail and fuel-cell technology, for building pipelines and storage facilities to support hydrogen-powered cars and for expanding the use of solar and wind power. The steelworkers union and the Institute for America's Future, a new liberal research center, which helped develop the plan, distributed polling data showing that the plan had wide support in Pennsylvania and several Midwestern swing states that have lost hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Supporters said they hoped the poll numbers would persuade presidential candidates to embrace the plan, although privately some acknowledged that candidates might balk at its $300 billion price tag. A poll commissioned by the steelworkers union found that in Pennsylvania 73 percent of respondents backed the plan, including more than 80 percent of Democratic men without college educations, an important group of swing voters. This group favors re-electing President Bush by 44 percent to 41 percent, the poll found. The survey of 400 likely voters had a margin of error of plus or minus five percentage points. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list
[biofuel] European Parliament Backs Tough Marine Sulfur Rule
http://ens-news.com/ens/jun2003/2003-06-06-02.asp European Parliament Backs Tough Marine Sulfur Rule STRASBOURG, France, June 6, 2003 (ENS) - The European Parliament this week voted almost unanimously for strict sulfur limits in marine fuels, going far beyond proposals tabled by the European Commission. A 1.5 percent limit on marine fuel sulfur content should initially apply throughout the European Union, said Members of the European Parliament (MEPs), and they want an even stricter limit of 0.5 percent to take effect two years later. The current marine fuel sulfur content is around 2.7 percent. Before the first reading vote a series of compromise amendments had been negotiated with the support of all parties, the result being significantly at odds with proposals put forward by rapporteur Heidi Hautala. Hautala has since left the parliament to return to national politics in Finland. Her replacement, Alexander de Roo, said the parliament's position would cut shipping sulfur emissions by 80 percent compared with just 10 percent forecast under the Commission's proposals. The parliament has shown it is determined to tackle air pollution from boats, said de Roo. The Commission proposals were limited to the implementation of a Marpol agreement on a 1.5 percent sulfur cap and only in three special zones: the North and Baltic seas and the English channel. The restrictions would come in 12 months after the law enters into force. QE2, the Queen Elizabeth 2, the flagship of the Cunard Line. (Photo by Ian Britton courtesy FreeFoto) But the parliament has voted for a lower sulfur limit, to take effect six months earlier, and to be extended to all EU waters by 2010. Furthermore, there would be a second stage of cuts, to 0.5 percent sulfur, applicable from 2008 in the three pollution control zones and on ferries, and from 2012 in all EU waters. The limits would apply to shipping registered anywhere in the world and regardless of their originating port. The parliament's position could well spark conflict with EU ministers, and if confirmed in law then with major flag states at the International maritime organization. Sources say EU governments have been slow to tackle the draft directive under the Greek presidency, a major shipping state that reportedly views even the Commission proposals as excessive. In other business this week the parliament backed European Commission proposals for earlier prohibition of single hull tankers entering EU ports. An attempt to ban them from entering EU waters at all was rejected. Meanwhile, the assembly backed a ministerial deal on implementing the Cartagena Biosafety Protocol with regard to trade in genetically modified organisms, with minor amendments agreed in advance with the council. Parliament also approved at second reading an electricity market liberalization law that will bring in tougher energy mix disclosure rules. MEPs still want the council to accept slightly stronger requirements with more information on the environmental impact of power generation. {Published in cooperation with ENDS Environment Daily, Europe's choice for environmental news. Environmental Data Services Ltd, London. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Interior's Steven Griles, the Deputy of Sleaze
See also: http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/45/ma_149_01.html The New Range Wars They come on your land and take what lies beneath. In Wyoming's coalbed methane country, it's the ranchers versus the wildcatters. http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2002/45/we_187_02.html Drilling and Discontent While Wyoming's Powder River Basin is ground zero for the growing battle over coalbed methane drilling, the conflict is causing flare-ups from Montana to New Mexico. http://www.hcn.org/specialcollections/coalbedmethane.jsp Coalbed Methane BOOM A High Country News SPECIAL REPORT Eat the State! Vol. 7, Issue #20 4 June 03 Interior's Steven Griles, the Deputy of Sleaze Steven Griles is finally on the run. Griles is Interior Secretary Gale Norton's top lieutenant, holding the keys to the nation's oil and mineral reserves. Now he is hiding out from reporters and congressional investigators after accounts of his ongoing sleazy relationships with his former associates in big oil have begun to ooze out into the open. Griles was one of Bush's most controversial appointments. A veteran of the Reagan administration, Griles worked closely with disgraced Interior Secretary James Watt to open the public lands of the West to unfettered access by oil and mining companies. As Deputy Director of Surface Mining, Griles gutted strip-mining regulations and shamelessly promoted the oil-shale scheme, one of the greatest giveaways and environmental blunders of the 1980s. He also pushed relentlessly to overturn the moratorium on offshore oil drilling on the Pacific Coast, a move that even caught Reagan off guard. After leaving public office, Griles quickly cashed in on his tenure in government by setting up a DC lobbying firm called Stephen Griles and Associates. He rounded up a demon's list of clients including Arch Coal, the American Gas Association, National Mining Association, Occidental Petroleum, and more than 40 other gas, mining, and energy concerns. For the past year and a half, Griles has used the cover of the 9/11 attacks and the war on Iraq to advance his wholesale looting of the public domain for the benefit of some of his former clients and business cronies. Griles wasted no time compiling a wish list from his pals. Within days of assuming office, Griles convened a series of parlays between his former clients and Interior Department officials to chart a game plan for accelerating mining, oil leasing, and coal-methane extraction from public lands. In the early days of his tenure, Griles huddled on at least three occasions with Harold Quinn, Jr., a chief lobbyist with the National Mining Association. Quinn and his associates are Griles' former clients. Quinn had business that needed attention. He urged Griles to move quickly to loosen restrictions on the most environmentally malign form of coal mining, the aptly-named mountaintop removal method. Quinn also reminded Griles of Bush's pledge to preserve the archaic 1872 Mining Law, which gives away gold-rich public lands for as little as $2.50 an acre. The giveaway law had come under attack even from Republicans. Griles also convened a meeting on September 10, 2001, with a dozen top executives from the Edison Electric Institute, another former client of his lobby shop. The energy bosses came to congratulate Griles on Bush's plans to scale back enforcement actions on filthy and aging coal-fired power plants. But they also came to gripe. They were unhappy with Bush's pledge to toughen up emission standards on sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, and mercury. Griles, who was then the Bush administration's point man on the financial impacts of air quality rules on the energy industry, lent a sympathetic ear. From July 27, 2001, to February 20 of last year, Griles' logs show that he met on at least 32 occasions with other administration officials to discuss pending regulatory matters that were a concern to his former clients. These meetings flout federal ethics rules which prohibit executive branch officials from participating in any particular matter which could advance his own financial interest or that involves former employers or clients. Griles claims that the meetings were merely social visits, utterly lacking in political intent. We don't talk about work, Griles assured the Washington Post last year in an interview. We're not allowed. We are all as scrupulous as we can be to assure that I will not be involved in any particular matter that would violate the ethics agreement or even have the appearance of a conflict of interest. The president said he wanted this administration to be held to the highest ethical standards. And I don't ever want it said that I didn't. But it now turns out that not only was Griles shilling for his former clients, he was also pushing environmentally malign policies that would also pump up his own pocketbook. Griles was an ownership partner in a DC lobbying firm
[biofuel] Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic
http://www.motherjones.com/news/dbriefing/index.html#four Hot Air on Natural Gas The nation's dwindling supply of natural gas has politicians, conservationists, big business, and alternative energy groups brainstorming tactics to avert a consumer crisis. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0611/p03s02-uspo.html Natural-gas spike hits US consumers | csmonitor.com Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan voiced his concern Tuesday on Capitol Hill, warning of a natural gas shortage that he and other Republicans claim pose an imminent threat to the nation's economic recovery. But, as Gail Russell Chaddock of the Christian Science Monitor reports, the Republican push to expand the country's natural gas supply has its drawbacks, and Democrats and sustainable energy advocates aren't willing to be fooled by a can of worms disguised as a national crisis. Republicans' response to avoiding high natural gas prices read similarly to the country's current approach to oil: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030610-065156-8494r United Press International: Natural gas economics turn international import it as cheaply as possible and draw it up from anywhere we can find it within our borders. But conservationists decry the drive to allow natural gas exploration on protected lands, according to Hil Anderson of United Press International. Greenspan's other proposed solution is to import liquid natural gas (LNG) -- natural gas that is converted to liquid by cooling so it can be shipped overseas and transported inland via pipeline. But critics of importing LNG are wary of depending on unpredictable markets from politically volatile nations, Anderson reports: The quest for energy independence remains as elusive today as it did in the 1970s when a little-known coalition of Middle East states rudely made Americans aware of the global nature of energy markets and the United States' dependence on oil from overseas as witnessed by long snaking lines at gas pumps around the country. ... Greenspan told the members that a sizable LNG infrastructure would act as a 'safety valve' to supplement domestic gas supplies during shortages; however many of the major sources of LNG are nations that have their own political turmoil, including the Middle East, Algeria, Indonesia and the former Soviet Union. Furthermore, as the editors of the Washington Post observe, energy bills in the House and Congress don't appear to be saving the American public money , especially when it comes to accessing natural gas: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37364-2003Jun9.html?nav=hptoc_eo Wasted Energy [Greenspan should] say a few words in opposition to a Senate plan that would enable construction of a natural gas pipeline to the lower 48 states from Alaska -- where there is ample gas -- but would set a floor for the price of gas at the same time. Energy bills in both the House and Senate would mandate a route for the pipeline through Alaska, despite evidence that routes through Canada may well be cheaper. This is unnecessary: The need for more natural gas should not be used as an excuse to force taxpayers to pay for an uncompetitive delivery system or to guarantee profits to natural gas producers well into the future. Sutainable-Energy advocate group American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy http://aceee.org/energy/natlgas.htm Natural Gas--The Next Energy Crisis? agrees that government needs to act soon to pre-empt skyrocketing natural gas costs. But the way to do that, the ACEEE asserts, is to make use of available technology to save energy. http://www.enn.com/direct/display-release.asp?objid=D1D1366D00F5B3 D0F3D57134764F Greenspan Half Right on Natural Gas Solutions The group's Deputy Director says its really just a matter of implementation: Years of energy efficiency experience show that we can save enough energy in the next 24 months to bring some calm to the gas market, he said in a press release. According to ACEEE, all the nation needs is a high-level national commitment to accelerate efficiency investment and smart conservation through education, technical assistance, and incentives. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_c o/natural_gas_crunch_13 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into the same trap we have done with Oil? Where does it end? Why does such a great country have to just demand such massive energy imports when it could manufacture or harvest more of its own energy? We could easily set up to harvest wind, solar biomass and other energy, manufacture electricity or natural gas or whatever from these sources, and satsify at least some of this rising demand. I do not suggest these as cure-all solutions. I suggest only that it's pathetic that the U.S. has only the answer to fall into this giant new dependency, when we have so much technological expertise. I wonder if we will prop up (or create)
[biofuel] New Data Show Emissions From Non-Road Diesel Engines
http://ens-news.com/ens/jun2003/2003-06-09-09.asp New Data Show Emissions From Non-Road Diesel Engines BERKELEY, California, June 9, 2003 (ENS) - New emissions data reveals that particulate matter in nonroad diesel engines, which power tractors, bulldozers, trains and ships nationwide, account for nearly 50 percent of all particulate matter pollution. Metropolitan areas in New York, Los Angeles, Houston, Boston and Chicago top the list for the amount of emissions of particulate matter from these engines, according to an analysis released today by the Union of Concerned Scientists. The highest emissions of smog forming nitrogen oxides were found in the Los Angeles and New York metropolitan areas. Texas, California, Illinois, Louisiana and Ohio have the highest particulate matter emissions. The report compiled and analyzed the latest emissions inventory from the Environmental Protection Agency and California Air Resources Board. It found that in the New York metropolitan area, non road diesel engines emitted more tons of particulate matter than in any other area evaluated. Four major metropolitan areas along the East Coast corridor - Boston, New York, Philadelphia and Washington D.C./Baltimore - have some of the highest concentration of nonroad diesel emissions in the country. Despite substantial progress in technologies that reduce diesel pollution, a double standard allows non road engines to pollute at high levels, said Patricia Monahan, author of the new report, Cleaning up Diesel Pollution: Emissions from Off-highway Engines by State. Unlike diesel trucks and buses, construction and agricultural equipment are held to weak standards, and public health pays the price, Monahan said. It is imperative that we hold all diesel engines to the same standard. Diesel exhaust particles are small enough to be inhaled deep into the lungs and have been linked to cancer and premature death, as well as serious respiratory illness. The dangers of diesel exhaust have led to stricter tailpipe standards for highway trucks and buses over the past 30 years. But nonroad engines are allowed to pollute at much higher levels. While particulate pollution from highway vehicles has been cut in half over the last two decades, emissions from nonroad engines have increased 23 percent. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently proposed a rule that would reduce emissions from new non road diesel engines by 90 percent. Though the current proposal would exclude trains and ships from stricter emission standards, the EPA estimates that by 2030, the rule could prevent 9,600 premature deaths and save $81 billion per year. The EPA under Christie Todd Whitman has given us a good proposal, one of the very few environmentally sound actions of the Bush administration, said Kevin Knobloch, executive director of the Union of Concerned Scientists. But it is still just a proposal. Without Whitman at the helm, there is considerable chance this rule will be undermined. The stakes for public health are too great to let that happen. A recent analysis by an association of state air regulators found that diesel exhaust - a mixture of nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, arsenic, dioxin and mercury - increase the incidence of cancer in the United States by as many as 125,000 additional cases over a 70 year lifetime. The Union of Concerned Scientists study breaks down pollution data on non road diesel engines and other mobile sources in all states, counties and major metropolitan areas. The report also provides a cost analysis of producing cleaner engines, finding that for one to three percent of the cost of equipment, pollution controls for particulate matter and nitrogen oxide can cut emissions by 90 percent or more Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Rich Countries' Greenhouse Gas Emissions Ballooning
http://ens-news.com/ens/jun2003/2003-06-09-02.asp Rich Countries' Greenhouse Gas Emissions Ballooning BONN, Germany, June 9, 2003 (ENS) - The emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from Europe, Japan, the United States and other industrialized countries could grow by 17 percent from 2000 to 2010, despite measures in place to curb them, according to a new United Nations report. Greenhouse gases blanket the Earth, trapping the Sun's heat close to the planet's surface. Based on projections provided by the governments themselves, the report is under consideration at a two week meeting of the UN Climate Change Convention's 190 member governments that opened at the Maritim Hotel in Bonn Wednesday. It is intended to help governments plan their future climate change strategies. These findings clearly demonstrate that stronger and more creative policies will be needed for accelerating the spread of climate friendly technologies and persuading businesses, local governments and citizens to cut their greenhouse gas emissions, said Joke Waller Hunter, executive secretary of the UN Climate Change Convention. Joke Waller-Hunter of the Netherlands is executive secretary of the United Nations Climate Change Convention. (Photo courtesy IISD/ENB-Leila Mead) Emissions rose in all major economic sectors, including energy, transport, industry and agriculture. The exception was waste management, where emissions declined slightly. The figures do not include emissions and removals from land use change and forestry. Governments adopted a more comprehensive set of policies and measures during 2000 and 2001 for addressing their emissions such as emissions trading, carbon taxes and green certificate trading. The greatest number of policies and measures are being put to use in the energy sector. The value of this report, an official UN document entitled Compilation and Synthesis of Third National Communications, has been improved by the growing quantity, quality and timeliness of the underlying national reports, called national communications, the Climate Change Convention Secretariat says. Thirty-one third national communications from developed countries have been submitted along with 100 initial national communications from developing countries. The emissions of Central and Eastern European countries are starting to increase as their economies recover from early and mid-1990s lows, says the report based on projections provided by these governments. Developed countries saw their combined emissions fall during the 1990s, by three percent, due to a 37 percent decline in the emissions of Central and Eastern European countries. Greenhouse gas emissions billow from the Corus Steel Works, Teesside, England (Photo by Ian Britton courtesy FreeFoto) Most of the reductions in the emissions from developed countries was due to the steep economic decline in the countries of eastern Europe and the former USSR, resulting from the transition from centrally planned to market economies and associated structural changes, the secretariat says. In recent years most of these countries have experienced appreciable economic growth which is projected to lead to increased emissions in the future. Greenhouse gas emissions in the highly industrialized countries as a whole rose by eight percent from 1990 to 2000. According to the report, the European Union's total emissions decreased by 3.5 percent from 1990 to 2000, with individual member states varying between a decrease of 19 percent and an increase of 35 percent. Emissions increased in most other highly industrialized countries - five percent in New Zealand, 11 percent in Japan, 14 percent in the United States, 18 percent in Australia, and 20 percent in Canada. With very few exceptions, the secretariat says, the reporting governments underlined the importance of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol in shaping their domestic climate policy responses. They said their emissions reduction targets under the protocol are a first step towards long term and continued emission reductions. This international treaty under the UN Climate Change Convention requires 37 industrialized countries to reduce their emission of six greenhouse gases an average of 5.2 percent of 1990 emissions during the five year period 2008-2012. The protocol broke new ground with three innovative mechanisms - joint implementation, the clean development mechanism (CDM) and emissions trading. These aim to maximize the cost effectiveness of climate change mitigation by allowing parties to the protocol to pursue opportunities to cut emissions, or enhance carbon sinks, more cheaply abroad than at home. Trucks emit greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (Photo by Kevin Chandler courtesy NREL) The cost of curbing emissions varies considerably from region to region as a result of such differences as energy sources, energy efficiency and waste management. The parties may
[biofuel] Striking It Poor: Oil as a Curse
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/07/arts/07BANK.html?pagewanted=printposition= June 7, 2003 Striking It Poor: Oil as a Curse By DAPHNE EVIATAR The pipes are already laid in southern Chad, where they snake south underground through tropical forests from the oil fields of Doba to a marine terminal off the coast of neighboring Cameroon. At the port of Kribi, the 660-mile pipeline will empty up to 250,000 barrels a day of coveted crude into tankers waiting to transport the unctuous black gold to Western markets. The largest energy infrastructure development in Africa, the Chad-Cameroon pipeline is to begin operation later this year. Built by a consortium of oil companies led by Exxon Mobil, it is expected to provide average annual revenue of $50 million. The World Bank Group has invested more than $180 million in the project, insisting that the pipeline's profits could significantly improve the lives of Chad's residents, most now living in squalor, by paying for services like health care, education, paved roads, electricity and sewer systems. Many critics find that assessment surprising, given that scholarly studies for more than a decade have consistently warned of what is known as the resource curse: that developing countries whose economies depend on exporting oil, gas or extracted minerals are likely to be poor, authoritarian, corrupt and rocked by civil war. And now a draft of a report commissioned by the bank itself has essentially concluded that the bank's previous efforts to promote such projects in poor countries has done more harm than good. Both former bank officials and outside academics have complained that bank policy often contradicts the expert research. There's a big disconnect between World Bank operations and World Bank research, said William Easterly, an economics professor at New York University who spent more than a decade as a senior adviser at the bank. There's almost an organizational feud between the research wing and the rest of the bank. The rest of the bank thinks research people are just talking about irrelevant things and don't know the reality of what's going on on the ground. In this latest case, using the bank's own internal documents, the report's author, Melissa A. Thomas, found that the bank had for years focused on promoting foreign investment in these industries without considering how the countries' governments were managed and what they were likely to do with the money. As a result, she said, in most of the nations studied - Chile, Ecuador, Ghana, Kazakhstan, Papua New Guinea and Tanzania - the bank's work had not achieved its development goals. Even when the bank made loans conditional on a country's promise to make public how it had spent its revenues, the projects did not produce economic benefits. Ms. Thomas, a political economist at the University of Maryland, concluded that the bank should stop financing these so-called extractive industries in countries whose governments lack the capacity to benefit from or manage such investment. Rashad Kaldany, director of the oil, gas, mining and chemicals department of the World Bank Group, said it was awkward for me to comment, because the report was still a draft, but added: We certainly feel that the issues of good governance and corruption are of paramount importance for development. This is what we're focusing on more and more in all our activities. But scholars are skeptical. You get the sense that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at the World Bank, said Scott Pegg, a political science professor at Indiana University. He relied on World Bank research for a recent report - commissioned by Oxfam America, Friends of the Earth, Environmental Defense, Catholic Relief Services and the Bank Information Center - that sharply criticizes the impact of extractive industries in Africa. Academics hired by the bank have criticized its work before. Some of the most important research on the resource curse has been done by bank economists. In a pioneering 1988 book issued as a World Bank Research publication, Oil Windfalls: Blessing or Curse?, Alan H. Gelb, chief economist for the bank's African regional office, found that contrary to assumptions popular at the time, oil wealth had made conditions in most countries worse. And Paul Collier, an Oxford University economics professor who now heads the bank's development research group, has demonstrated repeatedly that oil, gas and mining wealth has fueled brutal civil wars. Advocacy groups have used these findings to urge the bank to stop supporting oil and gas projects. Bank officials say they have taken steps to respond to the failings pointed out by critics. Last year the bank began a formal review of its support for these industries. We said from the outset that if there's a broad consensus that these projects don't contribute to development, and if the World Bank Group's role is not
[biofuel] The NY Times and the ADM Scandal
The Agribusiness Examiner June 9, 2003, Issue #256 Monitoring Corporate Agribusiness From a Public Interest Perspective EDITOR\PUBLISHER; A.V. Krebs E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB SITE:http://www.ea1.com/CARP/ Commentary: Questioning Current NY Times Reporting Occasions Revisiting Paper's Handling Of ADM Scandal Amidst the daily headlines and media self-flagellation surrounding the methods employed by certain members of the New York Times staff in reporting all the news that's fit to print along with the resignations of two of its top editors, the highly questionable reporting of the paper's Kurt Eichenwald concerning the 1990's Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) price-fixing scandal continues to remain largely ignored. For while it may come as a surprise to many, before the Enron, WorldCom, Arthur Anderson scandals became page one news a far more aggrievious crime in the suites, affecting a much larger clientele than its sexy predecessors was unfolding. From its inception THE AGRIBUSINESS EXAMINER has been tracking the story of how ADM, the nation's largest grain processing company, has become a veritable symbol of corporate crime, corruption and political influence peddling. Only a few publications at the time bothered to report the many and varied aspects of this case --- a classical study in white collar crime. One paper who did publish stories on what would become a scandal involving a variety of multinational corporations and high government officials was the New York Times. However, how fairly the Times and its correspondent covered the scandal that was ADM would come under sharp attack as was recounted in this newsletter two years ago. In light of the questions now being raised about how the Times reports its stories it is both illuminating and instructive to revisit those charges leveled against the paper and Eichenwald. Challenging not only the veracity of his reporting and his willingness to serve the interests of ADM and its Washington, D.C. influence peddling law firm of Williams and Connolly, but the unwillingness of his employer to deal with such conduct, author Kurt Eichenwald and the New York Times became the subject of scathing allegations after the publication of his book The Informant. In a series of over some 30 documented letters --- all unanswered to the Times Managing Editor William Keller, ADM Shareholders Watch Committee co-founder David Hoech accused Eichenwald of unethical conduct and the Times' actions and inactions as just another example of a 'Corporate Predator' that will do whatever it takes to make a buck. Eichenwald's book which advertised itself as a true story, purported to describe how the FBI was ready to take down America's most politically powerful corporation. But there was one thing they didn't count on. THE INFORMANT. Curiously nowhere on the book's cover, its dust jacket, or in the full-page advertisements for the book that later appeared in the Times is America's most politically powerful corporation mentioned by name. Rather the book's main focus centered around the story of Mark Whitacre, the former ADM executive who acted as an FBI mole for three years uncovering a vast international corporate conspiracy led by ADM to fix the price of lysine, a feed additive for livestock and poultry, and his often unaccountable conduct throughout the legal battles that followed the exposure of the company's illegal activities. As Hoech noted in his Letter #5: Having dealt with Eichenwald for over five years concerning the ADM saga, I know he marches to a different drummer than most of the reporters I have worked with, and I assume the Times knows this also. When Eichenwald tells me that he controls what is printed in the Times concerning Archer Daniels Midland, I can now believe him. GREED VS GREED Unlike the authoritative and well-documented Rats in the Grain: The Dirty Tricks and Trials of Archer Daniels Midland The Supermarket to the World by James B. Lieber (Four Walls, Eight Windows Press, New York: 2000), Eichenwald's book, in Hoech's words, simply sought to depict Whitacre as a freak while giving protection to ADM, Williams Connolly and the Justice Department who were all involved in covering up the criminal activity of the Andreas crime family who still run ADM. After Whitacre exposed ADM, Lieber writes, the media mobbed the story, touting it as a David and Goliath parable. After the exposer was exposed, the press drifted away. Good versus evil inside a multinational corporation was front-page news. Greed versus greed was buried in the business section, if it made the paper at all. In a tabloid culture, he noted, trials of gruesome crimes generate the most news. Searing tragedies for those involved, they become gladiatorial spectacles for the rest of us. But bloodless while collar trials say more about the way the world works, and it is my personal bias that it makes sense to pay more
[biofuel] Toyota to make vehicles more recyclable
http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/toy10_20030610.htm Toyota to make vehicles more recyclable Company announces Europe, Japan plans June 10, 2003 BY KAE INOUE BLOOMBERG TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp., the world's largest automaker by market value, said it plans to make its Japan-built cars on average 88-percent recyclable by the year ending in March 2006 to cut costs and reduce harmful waste. The vehicles are as much as 83 percent recyclable now, Director Yoshio Shirai said at a press briefing. The company wants to increase that rate to 95 percent in the year ending in March 2016, in line with proposed government regulations. In Europe, Toyota aims to make its cars 85 percent recyclable by 2006, rising to 95 percent by 2015. Toyota is trying to match efforts to improve recyclability by European rivals like Volkswagen AG and DaimlerChrysler AG. It hopes to expand its market share in Europe. Making its products more recyclable also enables the company to cut costs by reusing parts from old vehicles. Toyota is probably emphasizing recycling to cut costs and make better products, said Norihito Kanai, who helps manage the equivalent of $2.5 billion at Meiji Dresdner Asset Management Co. To achieve its targets, the maker of Corolla cars is reusing more parts and avoiding using mercury, lead, cadmium and a type of chromium that may cause cancer, Shirai said. Toyota plans to stop using these substances in its Japanese and European cars by 2006, he added. Toyota reused 23,000 parts from old cars in 2002 and aims to increase that figure tenfold by 2010. The company said it will announce recycling plans for markets outside Japan and Europe later this year. Toyota said it costs 20,000 yen to recycle a car. The automaker is for the first time using a new material derived from plants such as sugar cane and corn for its Raum compact car's spare tire cover and floor mats. Dismantling the latest version of the Raum for recycling takes 30 percent less time than for earlier versions of the model, thanks to an improved design and increased use of recyclable materials. Toyota, which posted its third straight record annual profit for the year ended March 31, said it expects domestic auto sales to rise 0.6 percent to 1.72 million units this business year. Japan's largest automaker, which now generates about 80 percent of its operating profit in North America, wants to raise sales at home with about 11 new and revamped model releases this year. The first revamped version of the Raum in six years went on sale with a 1.5 liter engine last month. Toyota is pricing the vehicle at between 1.4 million yen ($11,820) and 1.87 million yen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Why did Bush cite forged evidence?
http://www.motherjones.com/news/warwatch/index.html MotherJones.com | News WMDoublespeak Iraq had a weapons program... Intelligence throughout the decade showed they had a weapons program. I am absolutely convinced, with time, we'll find out that they did have a weapons program. That was President Bush on Monday, doing his best to brush aside the growing chorus of critics openly asking why the US has been unable to find the biological and chemical arms it invaded Iraq to dispose of. But those critics aren't going away, and the administration's attempts to soften its rhetoric and change the subject don't seem to be working. Even Republicans on Capitol Hill are backpedaling, and now both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee will begin closed-door hearings to review the administration's intelligence on Iraq. Of course, the Republican chairmen of the two committees are doing their best to low-ball the hearings -- they will be far less than the joint formal inquiry still being sought by many Democrats. Just about everybody assumes that news will leak beyond the closed doors of the Senate hearing rooms, but the approach is still unlikely to satisfy Jules Witcover. The venerable Baltimore Sun columnist quips that, in a few short months, President Bush has turned from being Paul Revere on the 'imminent threat' of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction into a patient teacher of recent history. http://www.sunspot.net/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.witcover11jun11,0,6142 81.column?coll=bal-oped-headlines Not buying revisionist sales job on Iraqi weapons Jules Witcover But nobody argues that Iraq had such weapons in the past, Witcover reminds us. So the pertinent question has always been whether, as the Bush administration insisted in launching the invasion, those weapons were in hand and so ready for use as to constitute a clear and present danger requiring immediate military action. Mr. Bush's latest expressions of conviction that the Iraqis had a 'weapons program' seemed a distinction and a hedge from his earlier statement on Polish television that 'we found the weapons of mass destruction.' His reference was to the two mobile facilities suspected of being capable of producing deadly chemical or biological agents. With reporters parsing his words as if he were Bill Clinton playing semantic games over his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer found it necessary to say that Mr. Bush, 'in saying programs, also applies to weapons,' and 'that includes everything knowable up to the opening shots of the war.' In the absence of the discovery of such weapons, however, the president is now actively engaged in low-balling the WMD rationale for the war. In saying that history will conclude he made the 'absolute right decision' in invading Iraq, he is substituting Iraqi 'liberation' as his justification, itself a somewhat premature self-congratulation in light of the continued turmoil in the conquered country, including more U.S. military casualties. The editorial page editors at the San Francisco Chronicle will also probably find the senators' closed-door approach unsatisfactory. In an editorial, the Chronicle argues that any such inquiry must be vigorous and independent. The credibility of the Bush administration is at stake. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003 /06/10/ED143232.DTL Was Iraq war built on hype? The Bush administration should be held accountable for its stated rationale for the war to oust Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq. The president and his top aides need to explain, to the satisfaction of an increasingly skeptical Congress and American public, their use of seemingly ambiguous and possibly dubious intelligence reports in building their case for war. ... The war has certainly turned up abundant evidence that Hussein was a murderous tyrant who pillaged his country's oil wealth. But that point was never in doubt. The Bush administration went much further before the war, arguing that Hussein had the terrorist connections and the lethal means to pose a looming threat to the United States that could only be extinguished with a massive pre-emptive military attack. Witcover and the Chronicle speak, rather diplomatically, of the president's credibility. Richard Gwynn of the Toronto Star at least puts it another way -- using the language most on the left are unafraid to employ. But Gwynn still gives the White House the benefit of the doubt -- claiming that there is not reason yet to brand Bush and his administration as outright liars. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout /Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1052251799774call_pageid=968256290204co l=968350116795 Bush's weapons of mass deception We are dealing with something less than lying but also something a good deal more than an honest mistake. At best, Bush and
Re: [biofuel] Why did Bush cite forged evidence?
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16126 Bad Iraq Data from Start to Finish By Robert Scheer, AlterNet June 10, 2003 June 3, 2003 - Ever since the tragedy of Sept. 11, the Bush administration has relied on selective and distorted intelligence data to make the case for invading Iraq. But the truth will out, and the White House is now scrambling to explain away its mendacity. On Sunday, Condoleezza Rice admitted that President Bush had used a forged document in his State of the Union speech to prove Iraq represented a nuclear threat: We did not know at the time - maybe someone knew down in the bowels of the agency - but no one in our circles knew that there were doubts and suspicions that this might be a forgery. Of course it was information that was mistaken. United Nations inspectors, belatedly presented with the same document, realized within hours it was a crude forgery. While this garbage and much else like it got rushed into the light, the Bush administration protected its continuing lie about a connection between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein by repressing the results of interrogations of captured top Al Qaeda leaders. As Monday's New York Times reported, Al Qaeda honchos in separate interrogations told a consistent story a year ago: The terrorist group, and Osama bin Laden in particular, had shunned any connection with Hussein and his government. In going to war, the administration was unable to come up with a shred of verifiable evidence linking Hussein with Bin Laden. The closest it came was a purported meeting in Prague between an Al Qaeda member and an Iraqi diplomat, which has been fully repudiated by the Czech government. Keeping secret any information that contradicted the pro-war line of the administration allowed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to fabricate what he called a bulletproof connection between Al Qaeda and Hussein. We were expected to believe that our government had hard, definitive intelligence we couldn't be shown - just as we were told to trust that U.N. inspectors wouldn't be able to find all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction in time to avert disaster. Thus, with the pattern established, it was not surprising last week to read in the Los Angeles Times of a leaked report from the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency - secret since its completion last September - that indicated the depth of our government's confusion as to the nature of the Iraq WMD threat. The report stated that there is no reliable information on whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons, or whether Iraq has - or will - establish its chemical warfare agent production facilities, according to U.S. officials interviewed by The Times. Yet that very month, Rumsfeld told Congress that Hussein's regime has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons - including VX, sarin, cyclosarin and mustard gas. Did Rumsfeld know of the DIA report? If so, did he keep that information from the president? Or did he and Bush knowingly deceive the American people? And isn't that an impeachable offense? Unfortunately, the president still hasn't learned his lesson. Only last week, on his trip to Europe, he pointed to two mobile trailers the U.S. had seized in Iraq as proof of Iraq's threatening WMD program. Yet, as emerged over the weekend in newspapers on both sides of the Atlantic, Bush's claims rest on intelligence that is again unable to withstand scrutiny: Some leading weapons experts summoned by the administration to make the case for the ominous trailers take issue with the Bush administration's interpretation of their design and use. On Saturday, the New York Times, which had originally hyped the trailer story based on official U.S. sources, published a front-page report quoting experts who repudiated the administration's claims. One such expert went so far as to say the government's white paper on the labs was a rushed job and looks political. Others questioned myriad technical claims and suppositions in the report that led to the government's conclusion that the trailers were germ labs that could be used to cook up anthrax or other bioweapons. It's not built and designed as a standard fermenter, one top U.S. scientist told the New York Times. Certainly, if you modify it enough you could use it. But that's true of any tin can. On Sunday, the London Observer, citing British intelligence sources, reported that it is increasingly likely that the units were designed to be used for hydrogen production to fill artillery balloons, part of a system originally sold to Saddam by Britain in 1987. The British Parliament is in an uproar, but so far the U.S. Congress has failed to exercise its obligation to hold the executive branch accountable. http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdfs_108/pdf_inves/pdf_admin_iraq_nuc lear_evidence_june_10_let.pdf June 10, 2003 The Honorable Condoleezza Rice Assistant to the President for
Re: [biofuel] Pumping oil with the sun...
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:35:40 -0700, you wrote: http://www.solaraccess.com/news/story?storyid=4450 Pumping oil with the sun. Huh? One important thing here is that someone bothered to put a small amount of Solar PV in the deserts of the American Southwest. Such installation, on a very wide scale, could provide a significant percentage of the region's power, in my view. Doubtless Chevron-Texaco has used its influence in arguing on such matters as Alaskan Oil-Drilling, LNG importation and what-not. Have never heard a word out of them about the importance of *seriously* expanding solar energy production in the U.S. I wonder why not? Could it be because they want to keep solar down? Note that C-T is part-owner of the company which makes the solar panels. Chevron Texaco is also involved with the JV or Subsidiary of ECD, Ovonic, that makes NiMH batteries and licenses the technology. Sorry for any inaccuracies, it gets confusing. In any case, small wonder that the NiMh technology has not come down more in price or found its way into more EVs. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: highway speed findings
For me it is not just a matter of conservation of energy, but, more importantly for me, a matter of conservation of personal health, money and peace-of-mind. I cannot afford the time or money or difficulty of accidents or car problems. Every vehicle-trip involves a certain risk of these matters. So, weighing on the side of a brief walk for take-out (for example) is that it just avoids an un-necessary use of my vehicle. It's a personal calculation that some of us choose to make, and if I'm not driving, again, I don't have to take that five or ten minutes to focus on conducting heavy machinery in public. So, I can have a nice peaceful walk. I do often choose to take my vehicle on short trips, if I feel like it, but I weigh the issues first. I know that many folks don't see things as I do, but I have to do things the way I see them. Also note that I'm describing these things in this way because it's the topic of discussion at hand. But it's not to the point where I'm so anal about it that I avoid driving or something. I just think about it somewhat more than others do, as to all the angles, I guess. The energy usage issue is to me is of some interest, but it's not the only factor. On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:18:54 -0700, you wrote: Absolutely. This is a critical part of the use of renewable fuels - conservation and fuel efficiency are how you overcome the objections that we can't possibly supply our needs with renewables. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 07:05 AM, murdoch wrote: My loving wife generally drives faster than I do, but she won't drive in Los Angeles because of the sheer volume of traffic. Personally, I think I'm safer on the roads there than up here. But then, wouldn't it be better if we could all limit the need to drive at all? The older I get, the more important this principle seems to me. FWIW, I do agree that this is not an unimportant principle. Before driving somewhere I will consider the options. Generally I will opt for staying nearby and local if it's an errand that can be taken care of with a walk. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM - ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] ADB unveils guidelines on vehicle pollution reduction
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2003-06/10/content_912870.htm ADB unveils guidelines on vehicle pollution reduction Xinhuanet 2003-06-10 17:59:33 MANILA, June 10 (Xinhuanet) -- The Asian Development Bank (ADB) Tuesday launched a set of policy guidelines to help decision makers in the Asian and Pacific region cut down on vehicle emissions. The guidelines, prepared under a regional technical assistance project, will assist ADB's developing member countries to monitor air pollution, develop anti-pollution policies, build capacity, and allocate investment funds, the Manila-based multilateral lending agency said. A regional approach to information exchange, capacity building, policy formulation, pilot projects, and studies is a cost-effective approach to help national and local governments, Jan van Heeswijk, the bank's regional and sustainable development department chief, said at the launch at the ADB headquarters. Air pollution kills almost half a million people in Asia every year, the bank said, blaming most of this pollution on emissions from buses, trucks, motorcycles and other forms of transport. As Asia's cities continue to expand, the rising number of vehicles will result in even greater pollution unless effective action is taken, it warned. It is essential that decision makers in government and the private sector develop a better understanding of the economic and social implications of air pollution, van Heeswijk said. Charles Melhuish, ADB's lead transport sector specialist and project team leader, said decision makers in Asia need to adopt an integrated approach in cleaning up pollution from vehicles. They will need to adopt stricter emission standards for new and in-use vehicles, ensure the availability of cleaner fuels, and mandate regular inspections and better maintenance, he said. Apart from these measures, they need to improve traffic management to ensure a smoother flow of traffic so as to reduce emissions, he said. At the launch, it was announced that eight private sector companies are joining forces with governments and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) in the ADB-backed Clean Air Initiative for Asian Cities (CAI-Asia) to bring blue skies back to Asia. The companies, including Shell and Ford Motor Company, will bring financing and undertake activities to improve quality management, along with 20 of the largest cities in Asia and 60 national government agencies, NGOs, and universities that earlier joined the CAI-Asia. The ADB, the World Bank and the United States-Asia Environmental Partnership provide logistical and financial supportto the initiative, which was founded in 2001 in Bangkok to promoteand demonstrate innovative ways to improve the air quality of Asian cities through the sharing of experience and building of partnerships. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] California desert residents use water like there's no tomorrow - but tomorrow is coming
http://www.enn.com/news/2003-06-11/s_4917.asp California desert residents use water like there's no tomorrow - but tomorrow is coming 11 June 2003 By Seth Hettena, Associated Press PALM DESERT, Calif. - In the middle of the Southern California desert, resort guests can travel by gondola to waterfront bistros, homeowners can water-ski on a huma-nmade lake, and golfers can tee off at more than 100 courses made lush and green from constant watering. How much longer can this go on? That is what some are wondering since the federal government in April cut the amount of water California can draw from the Colorado River - a rollback that has thrown into question the long-term future of the Coachella Valley, a resort and retirement mecca 110 miles (177 kilometers) east of Los Angeles. We've gone from being assured that we lived in this magical place where the rules of water didn't apply to now having, I think, a very appropriate wake-up call about the fact that we do live in the California desert, said Buford Crites, a 17-year member of the Palm Desert City Council. People have lived in this false water utopia. For years, California has been using more than its fair share of water from the Colorado River, which flows to seven western states. But drought and booming growth around the West finally prompted the government to crack down and demand that the state's water agencies work out a deal to redistribute the water. When a deal fell through Dec. 31, the government cut back the state's share of river water by 15 percent. The bulk of that cut landed on the Coachella Valley. The valley's water agency halted deliveries of Colorado River water to about a dozen golf courses, at least one construction company, and the lake built for water skiing amid a housing development. Also, a landscaping ordinance that had been in the works before the cutbacks and went into effect on June 1 requires new developments to use 25 less percent water than existing ones. Water rates also may go up. It's an attempt to recognize we do live in a desert and water is not something we can take for granted, said Steve Robbins, general manager of the water agency. Dave Twedt, the land development manager for the new Trilogy Golf Club at La Quinta, is looking for water to ensure his greens are not brown when Tiger Woods and other top golfers arrive this fall for the popular Skins Game. The club is one of several spending more than $200,000 each to drill into the aquifer far beneath the course. You don't have a whole lot of choices, Twedt said. It's not like we'll be put out of business because, thank goodness, we can drill an irrigation well. Drilling wells, though, may not be the long-term answer, either. The many homes, farms, golf courses, and other resorts that already use well water are sucking so much from the ground that the valley floor sinks more than an inch (2.5 centimeters) a year in spots - a process that could accelerate if the water agency cannot get more Colorado River water, which is usually poured onto the ground and allowed to soak into the earth to replenish the aquifer. If officials cannot line up more water, the water agency may be forced to impose tougher restrictions on wells and usage to protect the aquifer. It was cheap and abundant water from the aquifer that transformed this desert - described by 19th-century explorer John Wesley Powell as the most desolate region on the continent - into a lush landscape of fairways and luxury neighborhoods decorated with waterfalls and lakes. The 300-square-mile (777-square-kilometer) valley stretches from the former Rat Pack getaway of Palm Springs, which sprang up in the 1950s, south to the briny shores of the Salton Sea. The population boomed 170 percent between 1980 and 2001 to about 330,000. Golf courses are the selling point for many of the developers building gated communities in the valley. Last year, golf helped attract 3.5 million visitors, who pumped an estimated $1 billion into the economy. In this self-ordained golf capital of the world, the cut in Colorado water has shocked golf course managers and development companies. Because the club has not been properly forewarned and has not been given a reasonable amount of time to transition to a private water supply, there is a real possibility of incurring catastrophic damages, John Heckenlively, president of The Plantation golf club wrote in an April 30 letter to the water district. Meanwhile, fruit and vegetable growers, who use most of the valley's Colorado River water allotment, face a crisis of their own. They are paying $15 million over five years - nearly 10 times the usual cost - to buy excess water from farmers in nearby Palo Verde. Water officials hope that the valley and three other Southern California water agencies reach an agreement to share the Colorado River and secure enough water to supply farmers and recharge the aquifer for
[biofuel] US high court to decide local diesel vehicle ban
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/21134/story.htm US high court to decide local diesel vehicle ban USA: June 11, 2003 WASHINGTON - The U.S. Supreme Court saidit would decide whether a federal clean air law pre-empted California regulations that prohibit the purchase of new diesel-fueled vehicles. The South Coast Air Quality Management District, a local air-quality district for the Los Angeles area, adopted the rules in 2000. They prohibit operators of a fleet of 15 or more vehicles from purchasing new diesel-fueled vehicles. The rules apply to various operators of public and private fleets of motor vehicles, including transit buses, airport shuttles, limousines, taxis, street-sweepers and waste haulers. The rules require fleet operators to buy only vehicles using low-emission gasoline or alternative fuel. The Engine Manufacturers Association and the Western States Petroleum Association challenged the rules, arguing they were pre-empted by a section of the federal clean air law that bars any local standard for the control of emissions from new motor vehicles. A federal judge in California and a U.S. appeals court based in San Francisco said the rules were not pre-empted because they did not impose emission standards. The two trade groups appealed to the high court, saying the case involved an issue of national importance. Backing them were the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, the Truck Manufacturers Association and the American Trucking Association. The Supreme Court will hear arguments in the case and issue its ruling in its next term, which begins in October. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] California desert residents use water like there's no tomorrow - but tomorrow is coming
In Colorado Springs, we had some very heavy snow storms come through the last part of winter ( just a little above average last winter ), but, according to the experts, in order to bring the local reservoirs back up to what they should be, we need another 6 years of higher than average snow falls. Despite the good snows, the timing of the rain in the high country is causing faster melt off. Currently, we are still about 2 inches lower than avg, for this time of year. Greg H. - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 13:34 Subject: Re: [biofuel] California desert residents use water like there's no tomorrow - but tomorrow is coming Apparently the snows in the Sierras were good, so Northern California is good-to-go. Lake Oroville is overflowing? Dunno about the Rockies. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] California desert residents use water like there's no tomorrow - but tomorrow is coming
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:50:13 +0900, you wrote: http://www.enn.com/news/2003-06-11/s_4917.asp California desert residents use water like there's no tomorrow - but tomorrow is coming Great article. Water has shown up in the papers the last few days as big news, as the Governor's office and the MWD of LA and the Federal Government have all been wrangling. About 7 Years ago the MWD quietly lobbied *against* San Diego County (about 3 million people of MWD's 18 million customers or so) being able to bring water from Imperial valley to supplement MWD water. Some of the means used to do this lobbying were illegal in my view. In any event they succeeded. I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the articles. But there's plenty of blame to go around. Another topic of course is Sacramento's refusal to consider installing water meters. California was about to allow a large amount of Water overflow to the Pacific ocean in political wrangling before the FEderal Government just stepped in. AS one Federal Official said, something like: how do you allow Californians to continue to draw more than their allotment of Colorado River water, while others are going through a terrible drought, and while Californians, taken as a whole, do so little to curb their water usage? I was at Lake Mead, at the Hoover Dam a few weeks ago, and it is *very* low. This was confirmed in reading the paper that evening in Vegas. Vegas gets only about 3% of its power from the dam but about 88% of its water. That water is in increasing danger of not being fit for consumption, if the drought keeps up. Apparently the snows in the Sierras were good, so Northern California is good-to-go. Lake Oroville is overflowing? Dunno about the Rockies. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead
LOL Close enough :) Kirk -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:43 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead mtbf.. that would be meatball factor? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead I don't see how the mtbf will be low enough with each car self propelled and guided. SOunds like wishful thinking. Kirk -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:59 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead Aren't they called trains? -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Keith Addison wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2966094.stm BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK Self-drive cars ahead End in sight for traffic chaos? In the future technology will drive cars for us, eliminating road rage and accidents and making traffic jams a thing of the past. This is the view of BT's resident futurologist Ian Pearson, who is convinced that it will be technology rather than tolls that can solve the UK's current traffic crisis. The only real solution to traffic congestion may be to stop people from driving cars, he said. I don't mean that we shouldn't have and use cars, just that they should be driven by computers and not humans, electronically tethered to cars in front and behind, he said. Bypassing jams If the trials are successful, we may see all new cars fitted with the system by 2010, making it impossible to speed Ian Pearson, futurologist Mr Pearson envisages traffic systems that allow cars to drive centimetres apart at high speed, with cars joining flowing traffic much more easily thanks to computers' micro-second reaction time. Using this technology we may not have the thrill of driving a powerful car on an empty road, but with the growth of traffic, that's an option that even today is open only to relatively few of us, he said. Already traffic navigation systems are allowing cars to bypass jams, although they work at the moment because only few people have them. As more and more motorists take advantage of such systems to beat the queues, they are likely to find new queues on the bypass route. Broadband help Another solution, already being tested, is to have car engine management systems linked to local speed limits using on-board GPS receivers. If the trials are successful, we may see all new cars fitted with the system by 2010, making it impossible to speed, said Mr Pearson. As we wait for sophisticated technology solutions to traffic chaos, existing broadband connections can also play a part in reducing traffic on the roads. Having a fast net service means more people are avoiding the roads altogether and choosing to work from home. The internet can also provide people with round-the-clock and up-to-date information on public transport as another alternative to gridlocked roads. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic
Re: [biofuel] Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 02:07:29 +0900, you wrote: http://www.motherjones.com/news/dbriefing/index.html#four Hot Air on Natural Gas The nation's dwindling supply of natural gas has politicians, conservationists, big business, and alternative energy groups brainstorming tactics to avert a consumer crisis. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0611/p03s02-uspo.html Natural-gas spike hits US consumers | csmonitor.com Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan voiced his concern Tuesday on Capitol Hill, warning of a natural gas shortage that he and other Republicans claim pose an imminent threat to the nation's economic recovery. But, as Gail Russell Chaddock of the Christian Science Monitor reports, the Republican push to expand the country's natural gas supply has its drawbacks, and Democrats and sustainable energy advocates aren't willing to be fooled by a can of worms disguised as a national crisis. Republicans' response to avoiding high natural gas prices read similarly to the country's current approach to oil: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030610-065156-8494r United Press International: Natural gas economics turn international import it as cheaply as possible and draw it up from anywhere we can find it within our borders. Aside from growing biomass through some sort of agriculture, and burning or otherwise using it for energy, what other ways are there to manufacture methane from air, water, etc., using such energy inputs as electricity or heat from solar? Isn't there a way or two? If it is *presently* less expensive to import geologically-made methane, does that mean we should just throw our hands in the air and give up and not try to manufacture some? It sounds like there are geopolitical costs for everyone on Earth when we put so much pressure on other nations to send us their goods, and that these costs can be broken down somewhat into dollar terms. In any event, I think we could do more to make energy here at home, and that has not been said at all by our President. I think part of the problem is that he is genuinely feeble-minded on these topics and perhaps not even aware that one can manufacture an energy-carrying chemical rather than drilling for it. If he is unaware of such a thing, then there can be no excuse for this in a President entrusted to help lead us to a variety of solutions on these matters. If he claims to have some energy expertise as part of his background, that particularly qualifies him, supposedly, to be able in these areas, then let him show evidence of that expertise by ceasing his assault on our future by attempting to implement stubborn one-sided wrong-minded solutions MM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Mechanical Components, Timing Pulleys, Gears, Clutches, shafts, sprockets, Bear
A good resource. Definitely check out the Tech Library. http://www.sdp-si.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] cleaning out storage tank
Pressure wash it with biodiesel then filter the solvent and reuse it. Do not use a pressure washer that has the auto heat feature. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Aaron Ellringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: [biofuel] cleaning out storage tank Howdy. I have a 500 gallon mobile storage tank that was usde by a construction firm. It looks like a giant barrel on wheels. I imagine it needs a good cleaning. Any suggestions for how to clean this out before filling with biodiesel? Thanks. aaron in wisconsin Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: [inventingideas] Re: Self-drive cars ahead
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:51:07 -0600, you wrote: I like the idea of a tether -- a rail. Merging packets of cars and handling them as a unit may be a viable solution. Take some high speed shunting to separate a packet in transit without slowing. Kirk Im not certain if I understand how you're suggesting to tie them together, physically or otherwise, but it's a thought. I'm pretty sure I read an article about a Mercedes on the Autobahn that is equipped with a new system to do some of the control (steering wheel, accelerator) for you, based on sensing some basics, like the car in front of you. I don't know how, if at all, the distance between cars is programmed to be different from what a human would be expected to maintain. Some sort of search should yield an old article or two about the San Diego experiment. Here we go. This seems like a good one at first glance: http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/9_13_97/bob1.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Riello burner non-information
biofuel@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi HVD, Is this supplier available in Europe? Any problems with the original burners, can they replace burners in RAYBURN Cooker? I would grateful of any further information, Best regards, Damian Dolan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Article On Hydrogen Leakage
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=624ncid=718e=4u=/ap/20030612/ap_on_sc/hydrogen_environment This article attempts to emphasize the question of whether Hydrogen Leakage could lead to Ozone Depletion. My initial concern with Hydrogen leakage was whether it could lead to Earth-Mass-System depletion. In any case, I'm glad we're trying to do a better job of exercising Precautionary Principles here at the start of this technology rather than waiting for decades to see if a problem arises. Seeing if a problem makes itself clear is probably still an important tool, but I'd advocate some attempt at foreseeing problems and environmental impacts of new technologies, particularly those advocated as Global Solutions for large problems, rather than just relying entirely on emergency-after-the-investment-after-the-damage methods of detecting and addressing environmental impact. This quote said a lot for my money, in pointing out where we should learn a lesson: In the past ... we always found out that there a were problems long after (chemicals or fuels) were long in use, said Eiler. He cited the case of CFCs, long considered benign but later found to destroy the ozone layer; and carbon dioxide, which for years was viewed as having few consequences when released from burning fossil fuels, but now is the principal greenhouse gas linked to potential climate change. I disagreed with the comment by Jeremy Rifkin at the end that we know that Hydrogen is where we have to head even if I agree we should be doing a lot of research in that direction. Anyway: --BEGIN ARTICLE Science - AP Group: Hydrogen Fuel Cells May Hurt Ozone By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - Widespread use of the hydrogen fuel cells that President Bush (news - web sites) has made a centerpiece of his energy plan might not be as environmentally friendly as many believe. Scientists say the new technology could lead to greater destruction of the ozone layer that protects Earth from cancer-causing ultraviolet rays. Researchers issued a report Thursday saying that if hydrogen replaced fossil fuels to run everything from cars to power plants, large amounts of hydrogen would drift into the stratosphere as a result of leakage and indirectly cause increased depletion of the ozone. They acknowledged that much is still unknown about the hydrogen cycle and that technologies could be developed to curtail hydrogen releases, mitigating the problem. But they say hydrogen's impact on ozone destruction should be considered when gauging the potential environmental downside of a hydrogen-fuel economy. Ever since President Bush earlier this year singled out hydrogen development as a top energy priority, the fuel has been the buzzword in energy debates. Congress plans to pump more than $3 billion into hydrogen research over the next five years in hopes of putting fuel-cell-powered cars into showrooms by 2020. Industry is spending billions more to develop fuel cells, although their widespread use is probably still decades away. Unlike fossil fuels ÷ coal, oil or natural gas ÷ which produce an array of chemicals that pollute the air as well as the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, a hydrogen fuel cell when making energy releases only water as a byproduct. But in an article in this week's edition of Science magazine, researchers at the California Institute of Technology raised the possibility that if hydrogen fuel replaced fossil fuels entirely it could be expected that 10 percent to 20 percent of the hydrogen would leak from pipelines, storage facilities, processing plants and fuel cells in cars and at power plants. Because hydrogen readily travels skyward, the researchers estimated that its increased use could lead to as much as a tripling of hydrogen molecules ÷ both manmade and from natural sources ÷ going into the stratosphere, where it would oxidize and form water. This would result in cooling of the lower stratosphere and the disturbance of ozone chemistry, the researchers wrote, resulting in bigger and longer-lasting ozone holes in both the Arctic and Antarctic regions, where drops in ozone levels have been recorded over the past 20 years. They estimated that ozone depletion could be as much as 8 percent. Nejat Veziroglu, president of the International Association for Hydrogen Energy and director of the Clean Energy Research Institute at the University of Miami, expressed skepticism about the Cal Tech findings. Leakage will be much less than what they are considering, he said. The loss of some of the Earth's ozone layer is of concern because ozone blocks much of the sun's ultraviolet light, which over time can lead to skin cancer, cataracts and other problems in humans. Ozone depletion has been contained with international treaties banning and phasing out ozone-killing chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs. But the Cal Tech researchers said huge increases
[biofuel] food industry is full of fraud
Another good reason to be a vegetarian! Meat factory was 'rat-infested' The meat was fit only for pet food and fertilizer Tons of condemned poultry, unfit to be eaten by humans, were sold to major food manufacturers for five years, a court has heard. Nottingham Crown Court was told that millions of chicken and turkey carcasses, fit only for pet food or fertilizer, were distributed across the UK from a dilapidated, rat-infested factory in Derbyshire. It is alleged some of the chicken and turkey ended up in supermarkets, old people's homes and curry houses. The meat, often left exposed to the elements in giant skips, was sold to processing companies who marketed the food as fillets, goujons or mince. Significant risk The court was shown footage shot by police scenes-of-crimes officers that featured skips filled with rancid meat and the crude processing plant where the poultry was trimmed and packaged into crates and bags. Jurors also saw a pool of standing water in the middle of the factory, which was later discovered to contain raw sewage. Jurors heard evidence that Denby Poultry Products Limited, in Denby, Derbyshire, bought waste chicken from companies across the country for as little as £25 per ton and sold it as food at between £1,568 and £1,792 per ton. It was a most unhygienic set-up Ben Nolan Prosecutor Five men, three from the company and two who were customers, are on trial and deny a charge of conspiracy to defraud. Peter Roberts, 68, of Francis Street, Chaddesden, Derby, and Simon Haslam, 39 of Alder Road, Belper, Derbyshire along with Brian John Davies, 64, of Walmersley Road, Bury, Brian Paul Davies, 37, of Moor Road, Bury, and David Watson, 38, of Paxton Crescent, Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, are all alleged to have carried out the scam. Jurors were told that Mr Roberts had failed to appear at court and is being tried in his absence. Meat paste Jurors heard that the chicken waste was picked up from processing plants in maggot-infested vans and that the same, unrefrigerated vehicles were used to deliver the dressed and packaged poultry to customers. Ben Nolan QC, prosecuting said: It is a most unhygienic set-up. The buildings are dilapidated and in places open to the elements, said Mr Nolan. Companies who bought meat from Denby included food manufacturers in Milton Keynes, Northampton and Bury. Mr Nolan said that MK Poultry, in Northampton, used the chicken to produce a leading brand of meat paste and also for food supplied to care homes for the elderly. The court was told that another customer, B Davies Meats, in Bury, sold on the poultry to another leading supermarket chain and that a third firm, S J Watson, based in Milton Keynes, packaged the poultry to be sold at markets. The case continues. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Searching for a processor
Dear Rajesh, I would like to have some more details on how you are using the waste oil from the hotel. Are you running the Gensets on pure WVO or mixing it with normal distillate diesel oil? Also do you filter and drain water before storing? What engines are running with the WVO (Perkins/CAT/Cummins ect) Any details would be much appreciated. Peter Gathercole Development Director Biomass Energy Tanzania Limited PO Box 31748, Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania Tel/Fax: +255 22 267 Cell:+ 255 (0)744 785340 The data contained within this email and any accompanying or attached file is legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity for whom it was intended. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, storing, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, you please notify us immediately by telephone, fax or return email and thereafter delete the transmission you have received. We shall be pleased to reimburse any reasonable costs incurred. -Original Message- From: rajesh sk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:53 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Searching for a processor Hi Pamela, I will intriduce myself, i am a chemical engineer and doing research in development of biodiesel as a alternative fuel in motor vehicles in Indian Institute of Technolgy New Delhi, India. The used cooking oil can processed to produce biodiesel.THe process set up is simple and set in hotel itself and utilized for running diesel gnerators. It will save fuel usage. THink over it, if u want any help please fell free to contact. Rajesh Chemical Engineer 256, Mission Project office , Block II, IIT Delhi, Hauzkhas, NewDelhi-110016 India pam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi...My family owns a restaurant in Virginia. We are having major problems disposing of used restaurant cooking oil. There is only one grease pick-up company in the area and they have not picked-up oil in almost a year dispite prepayment. Do you have ANY information on alternative processors? Thanks - Pamela - Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705 083269:HM/A=1595053/R=0/SIG=124orar12/*http:/ashnin.com/clk/muryutaitake nattogyo?YH=3313099yhad=1595053 Click Here! http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1595053/rand=402885489 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: cleaning out storage tank
There is an attachment for air compressors, which will supposedly make an instant pressure washer out of your air compressor hose and a pot of solvent (biodiesel). It's $17 at my local hardware store and considerably less at Harbor Freight. It's a siphon tube that you stick into a container of liquid, which is connected to a spray nozzle that you stick onto your air compressor line. I haevn't tried this device, but it seems perfect for this kind of application. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pressure wash it with biodiesel then filter the solvent and reuse it. Do not use a pressure washer that has the auto heat feature. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Aaron Ellringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: [biofuel] cleaning out storage tank Howdy. I have a 500 gallon mobile storage tank that was usde by a construction firm. It looks like a giant barrel on wheels. I imagine it needs a good cleaning. Any suggestions for how to clean this out before filling with biodiesel? Thanks. aaron in wisconsin Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Riello burner non-information
Damian, If my memory is right, Riello is an Italian manufacturer of burners for heating equipments. The have biodiesel burners available in Europe, but it seems that it is not generally available in US (politics). http://www.riellogroup.com/ hakan At 11:19 PM 6/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: biofuel@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi HVD, Is this supplier available in Europe? Any problems with the original burners, can they replace burners in RAYBURN Cooker? I would grateful of any further information, Best regards, Damian Dolan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] food industry is full of fraud
Yep, that is why I am a Veggie ... On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, kirk wrote: Another good reason to be a vegetarian! Meat factory was 'rat-infested' The meat was fit only for pet food and fertilizer Tons of condemned poultry, unfit to be eaten by humans, were sold to major food manufacturers for five years, a court has heard. Nottingham Crown Court was told that millions of chicken and turkey carcasses, fit only for pet food or fertilizer, were distributed across the UK from a dilapidated, rat-infested factory in Derbyshire. It is alleged some of the chicken and turkey ended up in supermarkets, old people's homes and curry houses. The meat, often left exposed to the elements in giant skips, was sold to processing companies who marketed the food as fillets, goujons or mince. Significant risk The court was shown footage shot by police scenes-of-crimes officers that featured skips filled with rancid meat and the crude processing plant where the poultry was trimmed and packaged into crates and bags. Jurors also saw a pool of standing water in the middle of the factory, which was later discovered to contain raw sewage. Jurors heard evidence that Denby Poultry Products Limited, in Denby, Derbyshire, bought waste chicken from companies across the country for as little as £25 per ton and sold it as food at between £1,568 and £1,792 per ton. It was a most unhygienic set-up Ben Nolan Prosecutor Five men, three from the company and two who were customers, are on trial and deny a charge of conspiracy to defraud. Peter Roberts, 68, of Francis Street, Chaddesden, Derby, and Simon Haslam, 39 of Alder Road, Belper, Derbyshire along with Brian John Davies, 64, of Walmersley Road, Bury, Brian Paul Davies, 37, of Moor Road, Bury, and David Watson, 38, of Paxton Crescent, Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, are all alleged to have carried out the scam. Jurors were told that Mr Roberts had failed to appear at court and is being tried in his absence. Meat paste Jurors heard that the chicken waste was picked up from processing plants in maggot-infested vans and that the same, unrefrigerated vehicles were used to deliver the dressed and packaged poultry to customers. Ben Nolan QC, prosecuting said: It is a most unhygienic set-up. The buildings are dilapidated and in places open to the elements, said Mr Nolan. Companies who bought meat from Denby included food manufacturers in Milton Keynes, Northampton and Bury. Mr Nolan said that MK Poultry, in Northampton, used the chicken to produce a leading brand of meat paste and also for food supplied to care homes for the elderly. The court was told that another customer, B Davies Meats, in Bury, sold on the poultry to another leading supermarket chain and that a third firm, S J Watson, based in Milton Keynes, packaged the poultry to be sold at markets. The case continues. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/