On the 23th of September you wrote:
Hello all!
Is there anyone out there who has tried running a petrol motor on paraffin? I
know the timing needs retarding and that performance is terrible, but here in
Africa, the fuel is very, very cheap.
What are the environmental implications of
ok i keep getting conflicting answers, but appreciate the help. let me make
sure im clear.it is possible to find a model engine that runs off diesel
only? that message from your friend that you quoted keith, makes it sound
like the enya(spelling) engine i gave a link to would workif
Hello Ross,
The pentagon can actually do a lot of good. Please recall an ultimate
task that can be assigned to a new age army (military forces)...
policing environmental issues--making positive changes via engineering
and brute strength to benefit citizens. There is enough environmental
Dear Damiando,
During my years working for a utility company in
californi and promoting renewable resources we worked
very closely with US Windpower at Altamont Pass.
Generally speaking, the rule of thumb is it takes an
average windspeed of 12-14 mph per day to provide
complete cost benefit
Damian is quite correct and my further observation = I
had the opportunity to visit Ireland and study both
the energy industry and the manufacturing industry.
The VAT (value added tax) is really a neutral tax and
has not hurt innovation nor the economy. I then
travled to England, France, and
Funny...
P.
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Excuse me, but is your neutrino beam powered by bio-fuels.?
It's interesting that you mentioned Tony Blair. I believe he's in
surgery at
the moment. Any chance your neutrino beam can be used to remove his
clotted
Bull-oney! Farmers and community coops are essential to providing
secure energy supplies and meeting environmental goals at affordable
costs.
Peggy
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Up to now seems like the balance is favourable to WVO... I still have a
doubt: how to dispose the wastes... glicerine really looks very dirt ( but
saleable) and the wash waters are alcaline... any one knows how to
industially reclaim the waste/spent solutions or at least dispose them
Kerry has been a strong supporter of energy and environmental research
throughout his public career and spoke at the first Earth Day
conference in
March 1970.
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He drives a Suburban...give me a break. Too bad the Democrats couldn't get
someone else to
In response to Peggy. Use of the Army or Air Force for
Civil works is dicey from the politics of the Civil
War. There is a legacy feeling that the Feds should
stay out of the way for things that counties could do
for themselves. But then the counties don't do those
things anyway. What is a poor
talk about a lame argument
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Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kerry's environmental car- yea right.
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:04:37 -0500 (CDT)
Kerry has been a strong supporter of energy and environmental research
throughout
Kerry has been a strong supporter of energy and environmental research
throughout his public career and spoke at the first Earth Day
conference in
March 1970.
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He drives a Suburban...give me a break. Too bad the
I'm particularly happy theirs people on this list
with an interest in science and engineering that
help us amoungst their other interests.
Appal Energy wrote:
And all the better if they can produce their fuel using home grown fuel
rather than mined fossil fuels!!!
TAS
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A good article on why John Kerry would not treat Kyoto any differently than
Bush.
In which case the US will stay cut out of the carbon trading market
and will lose out on billions of dollars worth of other business too.
http://www.iht.com/articles/513306.html
The people who publish
And all the better if they can produce their fuel using home grown fuel
rather than mined fossil fuels!!!
TAS
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Dear Mr. Robert Del Bueno:
Up to now seems like the balance is favourable to WVO... I still
have a doubt: how to dispose the wastes... glicerine really looks
very dirt ( but saleable) and the wash waters are alcaline... any
one knows how to industially reclaim the waste/spent solutions or
Not from me, and not here.
but appreciate the help. let me make sure im clear.it is
possible to find a model engine that runs off diesel only?
No.
It's simple enough. You're in the US, right? The first model diesel
motor was developed in the US, but diesels have never been popular
Hi all;
OK, I believe that, for those with limited headspace, I have the
eureka of wash systems.
The ring sprinkler crapped on me as I had screwed in the nosel too
tight and it split leaving it floating on the BD when I went to do
the follow up wash,
Ai-yah!
s off to get another,
Jewish settlers attack US Christians
By Khalid Amayreh in the West Bank
Thursday 30 September 2004, 2:24 Makka Time, 23:24 GMT
Palestinian children fear attacks from settlers
Jewish settler immigrants from North America have
attacked and severely
beat
American Christian peace volunteers
Yes, well observed. He did not cover these issues, and i was not aware enough
at the time to raise them.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards
Lame argument or not...its true. Heh, heh.
Kerry does save money on commuter gas, though. He just doesn't show up for
work. Hmmm, bad record by not attending meetings and not showing up to
vote. grin
Ron B.
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talk about a lame argument
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Reading below --
John Kerry on the environment:
An exclusive Grist interview.
By Amanda Griscom
23 Sep 2003
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2003/09/23/griscom-kerry/
mentions his Harley, Mini Van and why, amoungst other things.
=
Let's not confuse production techniques with use criteria when
evaluating hydrogen. If we use hydrogen generated from ocean waves, we
have a free energy source. At that point transport and storage become
the challenges... and these can be met. BTW, I am a fuel ethanol
exponent, and also
Ron,
Your argument does not hold water. LOL
The Scandinavian countries produces less that 10% of their electricity with
Hydro power and have nearly nothing of small hydro power. The Scandinavian
countries have gone very far to make their large hydro power to have the
lowest possible
Hi Peggy,
I was not referring to 'hydrogen' when I mention 'Hydro'. I was referring
to hydro-electric dams. Including them in the mix to boost one's
'friendly' renewable portfolio is disingenuous. It would be similar to the
utility companies saying that nuclear power is environmentally friendly
Peggy,
It is not a free energy source, because the devices to exploit it will
carry costs to build and maintain. Then it is rather a question if the
electricity produced is cost efficient in to use for moving it to hydrogen,
which is a storage device and energy carrier, not an energy source.
Ron,
Your argument does not hold water. LOL
==
Oooh that hurt. With a pun on top of it. LOL
==
I do not know of hydro for a big city, most of large hydro will
distribute on a national grid. The existence of a national grid,
I can't believe that someone would actually use
Aljazeera as a news source. LOL. I know it's
difficult to find news sources having any degree
of intergrity in reporting, but
really.Aljazeera? You might as well take the
White House spokesman's word as the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing
Ron,
If you with big city mean Bejing, NY, Paris, London, etc., who all have a
population that is larger than the population of Australia and each or all
toghether of the Scandinavian countries. Then I understand what you mean.
Hakan
At 02:54 PM 10/5/2004, you wrote:
Ron,
Your
Or any of the Israeli and Palestinian sources. -:)
The war is not only physical fighting and I would say that both Israel,
Palestine and US outperform Al Jazeera in professional misinformation, so
they start to look as a credible source in the comparisons. LOL
Anyone interested in the
I hope you believe that this actually happened. I know these people
and this organization (CPT) and it saddens me greatly. They do great
work all over the world in the midst of danger. www.cpt.org
Here's more information. Actually, Al Jazeera had better coverage of
the atrocities of
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Reading below --
John Kerry on the environment:
An exclusive Grist interview.
By Amanda Griscom
23 Sep 2003
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2003/09/23/griscom-kerry/
mentions his Harley, Mini Van and why, amoungst other things.
Nader doesn't own a car. He takes public transportation.
Ron B.
He made the news last week when he was taking up two seats on a bus and
wouldn't give one up to someone who was standing. Nice guy!
Brian
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Hello Bob, Martin,
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bmolloy wrote:
A point of information for John Hayes, and anyone interested in
Nader doesn't own a car. He takes public transportation.
Ron B.
He made the news last week when he was taking up two seats on a bus and
wouldn't give one up to someone who was standing. Nice guy!
Really?
That does it...he's not getting my vote. G
Ron
Hey Ron?
If you're going to sling crap, why not post the voting records of all 100
senators and then snozzle at all the others that missed votes?
Or would that be to contrary to your intent and purpose? To deride but one
individual and create as negative a sentiment as possible based upon
Something to think about
Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tim,
So you're saying that the beating didn't take place, simply because you
don't care for the source?
How many other times have such events not been reported by your choice
media? And after thousands of failures of
Hello Peggy, Ross,
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Hello Ross,
The pentagon can actually do a lot of good. Please recall an ultimate
task that can be assigned to a
Peggy,
It is not a free energy source, because the devices to exploit it will
carry costs to build and maintain. Then it is rather a question if the
electricity produced is cost efficient in to use for moving it to
hydrogen,
which is a storage device and energy carrier, not an energy source.
Or ask Ron what he would have done 50-70 years ago to bring electricity to
a
country?
Come on Ron. What? Coal? Bunker C? Natural gas? Squirrels in cages?
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Todd,
They are planning right now to build more dams and I'm not talking about
China-
Hey Ron?
If you're going to sling crap, why not post the voting records of all
100
senators and then snozzle at all the others that missed votes?
Or would that be to contrary to your intent and purpose? To deride but
one
individual and create as negative a sentiment as possible based
Hello Hakan.
You might add to your list Paraguay.
Here we have available an electric grid with an 100% Hydropower and more is
available if we need.
We have here the huge Parana River that falls from one plate to another
lower and there are 2 big dams in it, the largest dam is Itaipu with 18
Hey Ron?
If you're going to sling crap, why not post the voting records of all 100
senators and then snozzle at all the others that missed votes?
Or would that be to contrary to your intent and purpose? To deride but one
individual and create as negative a sentiment as possible based upon only
Ask the Native Americans in Manitoba about what they think about Hydro.
Ask the Sierra Club what they think about Hydro.
Ask
Or ask Ron what he would have done 50-70 years ago to bring electricity to a
country?
Come on Ron. What? Coal? Bunker C? Natural gas? Squirrels in cages?
Todd
Todd,
I'm not saying that the beating did or did not
take place. And it is not an opinion as to the
credibility of the source but rather a fact. Your
point would be better served and received citing
several sources rather than one. Especially one
that is for the most part State Run. It's not
Tim,
So you're saying that the beating didn't take place, simply because you
don't care for the source?
How many other times have such events not been reported by your choice
media? And after thousands of failures of non-reporting you would care to
imply that they're far more reliable and/or
Greetings Peggy,
I admire your enthusiasm, but please don't leave us to starve on empty food
calories while you make fuel. Your cat tail project is great. Your
produce ideas are terrible. All the organic waste needs to be returned to
the land that grew it. Chemical fertilizers are
Peggy,
I am all for both tidal and wave electricity production, the connection to
hydrogen is not necessary. Let us first see what we can save by efficient
energy use (more than 50%) and it is the most cost efficient way to effect
the current situation. Then we can reach feasible demands for
Hi Kim,
Our biochemist is a retired USDA soil specialist and he works with each
and every crop to confirm that the proper amount of comb, stalks, and
other necessary waste are returned to the soil when counseling farmers.
If you have specific questions concerning the theory, I can pose them to
I'm Cat, Dallas wife. We are traveling and are not able to get online very
often and Dallas is not with me right now. He wanted me to tell you that he
is sorry that people have been unkind to you. He hopes that the two of you
can stay in touch and will email you as soon as he gets a
I am sorry but this does not even come close to a reply to what I
said. The vast majority of farms do no composting and do not build their
soil. Offer them a chance to make money selling excess waste for biomass,
and they will. Who cares about the soil? They think it will somehow keep
The entire Jewish invasion of the Dead Sea Region is an attack on
Christianity. Jesus Christ said He came only to find the (spiritual) lost
sheep of Israel. That being true, then who has right of return to New
Israel? The followers of Jesus Christ. Since the Jews are against the
teachings of
Todd,
Thank you for the second source. The article is
compelling. It is a shame that through the
thousands of years of mankind's existence we have
created great wonders of architecture, art,
technology, etc... yet the ability to coexist in
peace still eludes us.
We live on a finite planet and
Peggy, hakan and others,
I'm not sure how much this contributes to your debate but I also suscribe to
the view of using what energy we have more wisely and economically, whilst also
introducing newer technologies to run in parrallel with traditional systems,
but preferably generating
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So you're saying that only Senators who are running for President should
be scrutinized? Or that any Senator who may eventually run for President
should operate in some way that is somehow different with all other
Senators? Where is your
Juan,
Very interesting and I did not know that, probably because Paraguay did
not catch my interest, since it for some reason do not list that high in the
other general data. I will look into it and learn some more. It is not many
industrialized countries that have more than 10% contribution
Todd,
Thank you for the second source. The article is
compelling. It is a shame that through the
thousands of years of mankind's existence we have
created great wonders of architecture, art,
technology, etc... yet the ability to coexist in
peace still eludes us.
No it doesn't, it's what
You still didn't answer the questions Ron. Nor do you offer any solutions.
I wonder why. Perhaps no viable answers other than rebuilding an entire
energy industry?
Seems that it's a lot easier or perhaps more fun simply to isolate something
and shred it to pieces rather than look a jigsaw
Ron,
Also, (LOL) there sure is no shortage of negative sentiments on this list
for the other candidate.
Doesn't matter if there is or isn't a shortage. What matters is the slanted
perspective that you appear to have, predicated upon partial and incomplete
information, as well as the fact that
Quick, what is the voting record for YOUR Senator, who you can vote for.
No, don't go off to look it up on another web site. If you're
scrutinizing all of the people running for office that you have the
ability to vote for, you will obviously have this information at hand, and
be able to
Tim,
Thank you for your qualifiers as to the unreliability of all or almost all
news institutions. Your first post didn't give the same perspective.
In the words of Ronald Reagan, trust, but verify is sound policy in almost
every venue.
As for agreeing to disagree relative to Aljazeera?
Todd,
Here is my answer:
I am not condemning the original implementation of hydro dams. Then again,
I never said I condemned the building of the dams 60-70 years ago in my
original post.
But, what we now know, makes it a different story. If you had read the
links posted below, you will have
Sorry, I'm not going to get baited on this one. Again, if you look at the
subject line, it says 'Kerry'. Oh by the way, what did you have for dinner
on June 16th, 2004? Even if you knew, it doesn't have any relevence, just
like your question below. Heh, heh.
Ron B.
You were the one that brought up Kerry's record of attendance. When I
asked you to compare apples to apples, you blew some smoke about only
paying attention to those you had the ability to vote for. Well, if
you're paying that much attention, as if that was YOUR issue in the first
place, what's
I also notice that you keep choosing interesting places to snip the thread
for your replies. Do you think that changes what you are replying to?
Why not keep the thread open, so that people don't have to tax their
memories in order to see how you keep changing with the wind?
Brian
You were
Hakan and all,
I hope you don't mind, but I started a new thread.
I believe Hakan mentioned on another thread that hydro power (not
hydrogen) in Scandinavia makes up only 10%. I could be wrong, but I think
Hakan meant 10% of ENERGY.
Since Hydro dams produce as their primary
Brian,
I'm sorry if I don't want to argue with you.
1) I snip so the threads aren't 10 kilometers long. I try to keep what is
relevent. If I screw up...my apologies.
2) Again, there is no apples to apples, no apples to oranges, no apples to
kiwi fruit. You are trying to make this into a
Actually, I'm not that big a fan of Kerry. I just hate what Bush and his
cronies have done to the country where I live and the rest of the world so
much that I strongly support his opponent. I don't think along party
lines, and have voted Republican almost as often as Democrat. I don't
really
G'day keith et all;
No offence taken on the glorified mist washer thingy. After all, that is in
effect what it was :)
This thingy, however, has much more potential than the ring thing.
Of course it is Euro Design, HA! The Euro's (that would be Old Europe to
those who are wondering), I am
Cool, I think if I just bite my lip for now on and don't get emotional
about Kerry in turn, things will simmer down. I once got in a battle about
some dumb opinions on a hobby with a person who only lived about 80 miles
away. It went on for a couple of days. Then I mentioned on the list I was
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The entire Jewish invasion of the Dead Sea Region
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