Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS
- Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS While I was aware that the original organic movement .. consumer driven was taken over by the government quite a few years ago .. I was not aware the the USDA was the governing agency .. but of course, if I had thought about it that would have seemed obvious. But who could have imagined somethings so vile. It would be my opinion that organic growers .. given the facts of NAIS .. would constitute a very strong voice .. with or without animals .. they generally are intelligent people who have the ability to connect the dots. There could/would be - easily - enough of a ground swell to place information packets in Health Food Stores and begin to reach beyond the animal people. There are enough of these people who have been so chemical compromised that their very lives (or the lives of their children/loved one) depend on being able to obtain chemical free foods. That limited source is only from those very Mom and Pop farms the USDA and their NAIS programs are most likely to cause to go away because of either their eradication program or the simple financial burdon of trying to stay in business. I am also aware that now that the organic label is in the hands of a government agency (sorry, I've forgotten just how many of the panel are needed from each category) there is a major push from factory farms to relax the organic standards. For the record I do purchase from an Natural farm .. 3 generations that never went chemical .. they raise their own beef, turkey, chickens .. if you eat one of their turkeys you will take a nap .. but it tastes like turkey and not like wet cardboard. I feed raw with my dogs and I did purchase the WHOLE LIVER from this farmer .. I'll never do it again, but that's because it was something like 25 pounds .. but I learned a wonderful lesson with that purchase. The liver is the first to show signs of body disintegration .. back in the 80's, something like 80% of all calves liver was unfit for human consumption due to liver distruction .. I do not believe those percentages have improved. If any farmer is willing to let any consumer see that whole liver he has absolutely nothing to hide. BUT .. I am also aware that the ability to talk with farmers isn't available because we don't have the access .. living in large cities .. and or don't have the inclination and/or observation. I will repeat what I've said in a previous post .. this whole agency needs to be dis-banded .. and dis-banded NOW!! Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rachel's News #855: Nanotech Showdown Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:32:45 -0400 From: Satya, Apr. 15, 2006 [Printer-friendly version] THE ROTTEN SIDE OF ORGANICS -- INTERVIEW WITH RONNIE CUMMINS The Satya Interview with Ronnie Cummins Many compassionate consumers believe that buying organic food is the only way to go. The label organic means refuge from pesticides, chemicals and the damaging practices of the commercial food industry. High-quality, mouth-watering, nutrient-rich produce -- all harvested fresh from the farm, right? We tend to assume organic food producers are all small farmers who combine ecologically sound farming practices with a political agenda to promote and develop local sustainable food systems. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. The Organic Consumers Association (OCA) formed in 1998 after organic consumers criticized the U.S. Department of Agriculture's proposed national regulations for organic certification of food. Today the OCA, a nonprofit public interest organization, strives for health, justice and sustainability, and takes on such crucial issues as food safety, industrial agriculture, corporate accountability and fair trade. The OCA has been able to rally hundreds of thousands of consumers to pressure the USDA and organic companies to preserve strict organic standards. Kymberlie Adams Matthews had a chance to talk with OCA founder and National Director, Ronnie Cummins about uniting forces to challenge industrial agriculture, corporate globalization, and inspiring consumers to Buy local, organic, and fair made. KAM: Can you discuss the corporate takeover of the organic food market? RC: Well the good news is there is a huge demand on the part of health conscious and environmentally
Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS
Hi Marylyn, Thanks for the articles. I belong to OCA, a great orginization that is struggling to keep organic organic against big industrial agriculturilists who want to totally destroy its meaning and significance. Do you have any updates about Codex Alimentarius? Is that still lurking in the background? Yep, NAIS will have a big negative impact on the small farmer, for sure. They should be excluded from it. It is another bad idea in a very long string of them coming from BushCo. It is a coincidence that I attended a seminar on detoxing a couple nights ago and most of the time was spent discussing the liver, the human liver of course :-) Peace and light, D. Mindock P.S. I will have to check out rachel.org - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS While I was aware that the original organic movement .. consumer driven was taken over by the government quite a few years ago .. I was not aware the the USDA was the governing agency .. but of course, if I had thought about it that would have seemed obvious. But who could have imagined somethings so vile. It would be my opinion that organic growers .. given the facts of NAIS .. would constitute a very strong voice .. with or without animals .. they generally are intelligent people who have the ability to connect the dots. There could/would be - easily - enough of a ground swell to place information packets in Health Food Stores and begin to reach beyond the animal people. There are enough of these people who have been so chemical compromised that their very lives (or the lives of their children/loved one) depend on being able to obtain chemical free foods. That limited source is only from those very Mom and Pop farms the USDA and their NAIS programs are most likely to cause to go away because of either their eradication program or the simple financial burdon of trying to stay in business. I am also aware that now that the organic label is in the hands of a government agency (sorry, I've forgotten just how many of the panel are needed from each category) there is a major push from factory farms to relax the organic standards. For the record I do purchase from an Natural farm .. 3 generations that never went chemical .. they raise their own beef, turkey, chickens .. if you eat one of their turkeys you will take a nap .. but it tastes like turkey and not like wet cardboard. I feed raw with my dogs and I did purchase the WHOLE LIVER from this farmer .. I'll never do it again, but that's because it was something like 25 pounds .. but I learned a wonderful lesson with that purchase. The liver is the first to show signs of body disintegration .. back in the 80's, something like 80% of all calves liver was unfit for human consumption due to liver distruction .. I do not believe those percentages have improved. If any farmer is willing to let any consumer see that whole liver he has absolutely nothing to hide. BUT .. I am also aware that the ability to talk with farmers isn't available because we don't have the access .. living in large cities .. and or don't have the inclination and/or observation. I will repeat what I've said in a previous post .. this whole agency needs to be dis-banded .. and dis-banded NOW!! Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rachel's News #855: Nanotech Showdown Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:32:45 -0400 From: Satya, Apr. 15, 2006 [Printer-friendly version] THE ROTTEN SIDE OF ORGANICS -- INTERVIEW WITH RONNIE CUMMINS The Satya Interview with Ronnie Cummins Many compassionate consumers believe that buying organic food is the only way to go. The label organic means refuge from pesticides, chemicals and the damaging practices of the commercial food industry. High-quality, mouth-watering, nutrient-rich produce -- all harvested fresh from the farm, right? We tend to assume organic food producers are all small farmers who combine ecologically sound farming practices with a political agenda to promote and develop local sustainable food systems. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. The Organic Consumers Association (OCA) formed in 1998 after organic consumers criticized the U.S. Department of Agriculture's proposed national regulations for organic certification of food. Today the OCA, a nonprofit public interest organization,
Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY
not to sound like a mooch, but i am also curious. i have seen the factory made items, and am interested to know if the hand made version is better for our particular application. - Original Message - From: Chris Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Could you please send it to me too. Thanks. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY Hello Citando, I sent you a schematic and after reading this you should understand the benefits. This is all based on experience. I just made a 100 Liter batch and the color was so light it looks like virgin oil, It separated in COLD water on the first mix in under a minute. was clear as crystal on the 4th wash. Keep in mind this is not changing the way any JtF procedures are done, It is just an enhancement. use it where you are but don't start on the acid base start at the beggining. See below [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jim I, would like to know more about that. tank you Citando JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these: IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS? A PVC venturi fitting installed on the discharge side of the pump allows yous to suck in your chemicals using a small hose. The pumps horspower when used to push the oil through the fitting causes a vacume at the port down stream of the Orfice or hole that the oil travels through. If you hook a small plastic hose to this you can pull in chemical without pouring it in. This is safe. Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in? see above During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix? This is one of the great side benefits of what happens when the oil is forced through the orfice - it creates a vacume on the other side when a fluid is sucked in to this area down stream of the orfice a super turbulent hyper mixing action takes place and mixes whatever with the oil - and it will stay that way much longer than through any other type of mixing - This is the principal that the University of Cambridge uses for their processor. Keep the top 1 (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) mixed with the rest? Yes no matter how you do it some separation of methoxil and oil is going to happen and it goes to the top. But with the venturi you simply place the suction tube to a port that goes down into the processor and pulls this top layer back into the mix with oil from the bottom of the reactor. When the hour is up you end up with Hyper mixed fluid. Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into the fresh oil of a new batch? After you have made a Batch of bio you have a batch of FA - GL (fatty acids Glyceryn) put this in a container with one outlet. Place the suction tube on the outlet. Turn on your pump. (bench mark where the oil is so you can see how much methanol you have pulled in) now gently heat the container of FA-GL Under vacume it will boil out the methanol. as this hot gas is mixed with the cool oil (at atmospheric pressure) it instantly turns to liquid and mixes at the same time. (for acid base only) Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a washing experience you may not have ever experienced)? Before you wash your bio turn your pump onn with the venturi on hook it to a chilled reclaimer vessel and hook the syuction port to one side and another line to your processor and be sure you have a closed system. the methanol will drop out in the reclaimer and will be very pure. Once you have it out the bio will wash much better than it did with the methanol in it. One thing NEVER EVER NEVER hook the suction to a water port for washing - this is a gauranteed emulsion with the best bio made. because the venturi mixes so well it will take a long time to settle out. (but it will eventualy) Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and it works so well, and it IMPROVES SAFETY. Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor. These can be purchased from the internet very reasonably. Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, can give the proof of the pudding - this car does not run on water. ;^) Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
Jim, Very easy to put into the early Jeeps and keep the original gear box and transfer box as well as the 4 wheel drive. There are two different early jeeps, well quite a lot really. Made by Ford and many other companies, the original designer got zippo for his troubles in designing them. The basic difference is the bonnet a high bonnet and a low bonnet. That is one has a bonnet that is about 8 Inches high and thus the radiator etc to match, the other has a bonnet about 2 inches high at the most. Am at present rebuilding one with the low bonnet. Have just finished a CJ5 series with a Nissan Diesel and gear box as the front end was rubbish. Low bonnet: Your limit here is the height to clear the sump from the front end and the throttle cable to clear the bonnet as the throttle cable sits on top of the engine over the breather pipes thus it being the highest part of the engine. High bonnet: All but any thing in the way of a 4 cylinder will fit as that extra 6 inches leaves a lot more room to play with and keep all intact. Removal of the fan shroud also leaves a lot more room to the front where the cramping would normally take place. An overhead cam belt drive 2.2 or 2.4L does very well in the high and low bonnet. Need to modify the sump and oil pickups plus a few other items, especially in the low bonnet version, and make the bellhousing/adapter plate. However all this is quite easy. Need also to know if it is Ford or other make of the original engine. One has part of the bellhousing as part of the cylinder block casting one has a flat finish to the rear of the block, very easy to see the difference in the blocks. The intake manifold for these engines was from memory the first to incorporate the NZ design of a hotbox for more fuel economy. If your jeep is original it is easy to run on Ethanol due to the manifold system if it has the NZ design fitted as original. The original has the manifold coming up slightly from the carburetor and sits on top bolted to the exhaust manifold. Very easy for water injection and ethanol this system. Flat head side valve 4 cylinder no oil filter but an accessory fitted later. As above is very easy to fit a Toyota 2.2 or 2.4 NA engine into these vehicles. Did you want the four wheel drive still working as original? Doug Doug, would it be possible to put a Toyota diesel into a 1958 Willys Jeep? Jim lres1 wrote: Hello all, If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford, Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine there are some quite easy steps to achieving it using the original transmission etc. Can do this on the JtF sight as can give pictures and instructions. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Doug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/ with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Ford have had for several years not only the availability to Mazda Diesel engines but also the derivative of the Daimler Puch Styre engine. The Landrover Discoveries and others run with this now Ford engine. It has all but the same power to weight as petrol but is very expensive in parts and technology. There is no connection to the engine other than by electronics in the throttle/accelerator. The unit is solely computerized. See an earlier article I wrote. US$22,000 for the test and diagnostic equipment for the Fords all up last quote. Have not seen the specs on the latest Ford light trucks and pickups but presume them to be operating the derivatives of either Mazda or Styre (Daimler Puch). Would very much like to know the engine configuration if you have the information. Being me I would wander if Ford were just after the machining and equipment as an engine factory from Cummins. Seems with new laws coming in for diesel emissions that the Cummins would need a total face lift to comply, not just a Cat added to the exhausts. Where Ford alreadyhas the engine, the know how and needs the place and name. Doug - Original Message - From: Craig Harris To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Ford planning on buying Cummins and also introducing a hybrid diesel. F150 are all ready running in target cities with diesels. - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick shift model.The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of the 70's. Miserable cars.The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models better.there were many models available 20 years or so ago - Isuzu, Toyota, Mazda, MB and VW. ONly VW and still offer diesel cars.bob allen wrote:about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of about 7 liters. No small trucks and no sedans.Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan WarnqvistBEGIN:VCARDVERSION:2.1N:Warnqvist;JanFN:Jan WarnqvistORG:AGERATEC ABTEL;WORK;VOICE:+46 11 33 53 70TEL;CELL;VOICE:+46 70 4993845URL;WORK:http://www.ageratec.comEMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]REV:20060518T194543ZEND:VCARD___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
what site are you speaking of, i am considering installiing a vw 1.6turbo diesel, with trans into a chryser mini van. thanks Doug's talking about the Journey to Forever website. Maybe I should make it clear again. >If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF >sight. If this is okay with the admin. Actually it's got nothing to do with the list admin. The Journey to Forever website and the Biofuel list are associated but they're not the same. I own the list, or maybe it owns me rather, or part-owns me, and so does JtF, but the list is independent and has a mind of its own. The list has no say over JtF, and the parameters for JtF website content are not the same as the list's. Journey to Forever is not just a biofuels site, not at all, and this is only peripherally about biofuels anyway. In other words you'd have to ask me, we could see if it fits or not. I'm not sure that it does fit. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner >From: lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Subject: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel >Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:48:10 +0700 > >Hello all, > >If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford, Chev >or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine there are some >quite easy steps to achieving it using the original transmission etc. Can >do this on the JtF sight as can give pictures and instructions. > >If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF >sight. If this is okay with the admin. > >Doug ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Rapeseed processing
Does anyone know of a rapeseed article(s) that explain the process from planting to the actual bio-fuel? If yes, please send. Thanks, Tony Marzolino Hi Tony Does bio-fuel mean biodiesel or Straight Vegetable Oil fuel? Whatever, grow the rapeseed, press the seed, process the oil. These will help: Quality Assurance for Rape-seed Oil as Vehicle Fuel; 594KB pdf Date: 18/1/2005 http://www.sei.ie/uploadedfiles/InfoCentre/RapeseedOilfinal.pdf (Compliments of Darren Hill of www.vegburner.co.uk) Equipment For Decentralised Cold Pressing of Oil Seeds -- the Folkecenter for Renewable Energy, Denmark -- 64-page report, detailed descriptions and diagrams, mostly mid-range presses from 80kg/hr and up. http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/publications/efdcpos_html/index.html PDF -- Acrobat file, 917k http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/efdcpos_ef.pdf Quality Standard for Rapeseed Oil as a Fuel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svostd.html A document or article on rapeseed oil and biofuel won't also teach you how to grow crops, and won't cover more than the bare details of making biodiesel, so you'll have to learn those separately. Best place to start is at the Journey to Forever website (for both biodiesel and sustainable farming). Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Jason Katie wrote. actually, the big Cat 4cylinders can be shoehorned into a full sized pickup, and they get about 20 mpg in the rigs they were designed for. in the smaller PU's they should get a major boost in mileage because there's so much less weight to shove around. Correct the big Cat 4's will fit. However the Big Cat 4 cylinders (3304 etc) are not known to run continuously at 4K to 5K RPM, The connecting rods have gradings, from memory, of 2oz differences in weight as acceptable. They are also not so good in the power to weight ratio. John Deere makes a very good 4 cylinder with twin rotating balance shafts. This again will run all day at 2,200 but not at the 4K to 5K range required by transportation, they are also very heavy. Both the above makes are not cheep for parts or purchase. The P3 was the Perkins fitted to taxis for a while in the 30's and the P4 and P6 fitted to buses and other machines of the time such as loaders and the Massey Ferguson tractor. The 3 cylinder engines, plus the 6 12 etc, take the least in balancing as they are all dynamically balanced thus there weight can be reduced through the lack of counter balance shafts or weighted crankshafts. Doug. - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here seems to like the 6 cylinder Cummins diesel's in the dodge pickups, but not the ford or chevy V8 ones much I think Isuzu actually makes the new chevy ones now, but not sure on that. Funny that the ford-8 diesels are so problematic (I know one person who switched to the chevy 6.5liter since they felt it was so much more reliable...), since the 6 cylinder commercial international diesels are great. We've got one of them in a school bus that's been running veggie oil for a few years. On 5/18/06, lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fords should not be too much of a problem as in many parts of the world Ford is connected to Mazda and thus the smaller Mazda Diesel engines. Doug The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick shift model. The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of the 70's. Miserable cars. The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models better. there were many models available 20 years or so ago - Isuzu, Toyota, Mazda, MB and VW. ONly VW and still offer diesel cars. bob allen wrote: about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of about 7 liters. No small trucks and no sedans. Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Warnqvist;Jan FN:Jan Warnqvist ORG:AGERATEC AB TEL;WORK;VOICE:+46 11 33 53 70 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+46 70 4993845 URL;WORK:http://www.ageratec.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20060518T194543Z END:VCARD ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32,
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Your best bet for a small US diesel car is a used MB 300D Keith Addison wrote: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html Diesel cars in the US More or less complete I think. Best Keith What year was it made? Mike McGinness Marty Phee wrote: My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel. Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote: Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars. The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels. Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L range. Mark *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jan Warnqvist *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:46 PM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* [Biofuel] American diesels Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
The Isuzu mid range truck diesel has been transplanted - I think I read it on the Toyota Land Cruiser list. There are a lot of them around in the US. lres1 wrote: Jason Katie wrote. actually, the big Cat 4cylinders can be shoehorned into a full sized pickup, and they get about 20 mpg in the rigs they were designed for. in the smaller PU's they should get a major boost in mileage because there's so much less weight to shove around. Correct the big Cat 4's will fit. However the Big Cat 4 cylinders (3304 etc) are not known to run continuously at 4K to 5K RPM, The connecting rods have gradings, from memory, of 2oz differences in weight as acceptable. They are also not so good in the power to weight ratio. John Deere makes a very good 4 cylinder with twin rotating balance shafts. This again will run all day at 2,200 but not at the 4K to 5K range required by transportation, they are also very heavy. Both the above makes are not cheep for parts or purchase. The P3 was the Perkins fitted to taxis for a while in the 30's and the P4 and P6 fitted to buses and other machines of the time such as loaders and the Massey Ferguson tractor. The 3 cylinder engines, plus the 6 12 etc, take the least in balancing as they are all dynamically balanced thus there weight can be reduced through the lack of counter balance shafts or weighted crankshafts. Doug. - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here seems to like the 6 cylinder Cummins diesel's in the dodge pickups, but not the ford or chevy V8 ones much I think Isuzu actually makes the new chevy ones now, but not sure on that. Funny that the ford-8 diesels are so problematic (I know one person who switched to the chevy 6.5liter since they felt it was so much more reliable...), since the 6 cylinder commercial international diesels are great. We've got one of them in a school bus that's been running veggie oil for a few years. On 5/18/06, lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fords should not be too much of a problem as in many parts of the world Ford is connected to Mazda and thus the smaller Mazda Diesel engines. Doug The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick shift model. The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of the 70's. Miserable cars. The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models better. there were many models available 20 years or so ago - Isuzu, Toyota, Mazda, MB and VW. ONly VW and still offer diesel cars. bob allen wrote: about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of about 7 liters. No small trucks and no sedans. Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Warnqvist;Jan FN:Jan Warnqvist ORG:AGERATEC AB TEL;WORK;VOICE:+46 11 33 53 70 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+46 70 4993845 URL;WORK:http://www.ageratec.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20060518T194543Z END:VCARD ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
There are number of kits around - a popular transplant is the TDI into a Suzuki Samurai - there is also a kit to bolt a TDI to a Toyota transmission. What about just getting a VW Vanagon and putting a later model TDI into that? It's a bolt in as the Vanagon came in diesel models. The original 1.6 is so underpowered as to be dangerous on the hwy. Look at the Piedmont Biofuels page - one of the guys there did it - I saw it and it was a very nice project. As for whether Keith would put it on the JtF page - well, if you can bolt it into a Land Rover I'd say that greatly enhances the odds ;-) Keith Addison wrote: what site are you speaking of, i am considering installiing a vw 1.6turbo diesel, with trans into a chryser mini van. thanks Doug's talking about the Journey to Forever website. Maybe I should make it clear again. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Actually it's got nothing to do with the list admin. The Journey to Forever website and the Biofuel list are associated but they're not the same. I own the list, or maybe it owns me rather, or part-owns me, and so does JtF, but the list is independent and has a mind of its own. The list has no say over JtF, and the parameters for JtF website content are not the same as the list's. Journey to Forever is not just a biofuels site, not at all, and this is only peripherally about biofuels anyway. In other words you'd have to ask me, we could see if it fits or not. I'm not sure that it does fit. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner From: lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:48:10 +0700 Hello all, If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford, Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine there are some quite easy steps to achieving it using the original transmission etc. Can do this on the JtF sight as can give pictures and instructions. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Doug ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS
The USDA Organic label doesn't really mean much. Don't rely on it. D. Mindock wrote: Hi Marylyn, Thanks for the articles. I belong to OCA, a great orginization that is struggling to keep organic organic against big industrial agriculturilists who want to totally destroy its meaning and significance. Do you have any updates about Codex Alimentarius? Is that still lurking in the background? Yep, NAIS will have a big negative impact on the small farmer, for sure. They should be excluded from it. It is another bad idea in a very long string of them coming from BushCo. It is a coincidence that I attended a seminar on detoxing a couple nights ago and most of the time was spent discussing the liver, the human liver of course :-) Peace and light, D. Mindock P.S. I will have to check out rachel.org - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS While I was aware that the original organic movement .. consumer driven was taken over by the government quite a few years ago .. I was not aware the the USDA was the governing agency .. but of course, if I had thought about it that would have seemed obvious. But who could have imagined somethings so vile. It would be my opinion that organic growers .. given the facts of NAIS .. would constitute a very strong voice .. with or without animals .. they generally are intelligent people who have the ability to connect the dots. There could/would be - easily - enough of a ground swell to place information packets in Health Food Stores and begin to reach beyond the animal people. There are enough of these people who have been so chemical compromised that their very lives (or the lives of their children/loved one) depend on being able to obtain chemical free foods. That limited source is only from those very Mom and Pop farms the USDA and their NAIS programs are most likely to cause to go away because of either their eradication program or the simple financial burdon of trying to stay in business. I am also aware that now that the organic label is in the hands of a government agency (sorry, I've forgotten just how many of the panel are needed from each category) there is a major push from factory farms to relax the organic standards. For the record I do purchase from an Natural farm .. 3 generations that never went chemical .. they raise their own beef, turkey, chickens .. if you eat one of their turkeys you will take a nap .. but it tastes like turkey and not like wet cardboard. I feed raw with my dogs and I did purchase the WHOLE LIVER from this farmer .. I'll never do it again, but that's because it was something like 25 pounds .. but I learned a wonderful lesson with that purchase. The liver is the first to show signs of body disintegration .. back in the 80's, something like 80% of all calves liver was unfit for human consumption due to liver distruction .. I do not believe those percentages have improved. If any farmer is willing to let any consumer see that whole liver he has absolutely nothing to hide. BUT .. I am also aware that the ability to talk with farmers isn't available because we don't have the access .. living in large cities .. and or don't have the inclination and/or observation. I will repeat what I've said in a previous post .. this whole agency needs to be dis-banded .. and dis-banded NOW!! Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rachel's News #855: Nanotech Showdown Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:32:45 -0400 From: Satya, Apr. 15, 2006 [Printer-friendly version] THE ROTTEN SIDE OF ORGANICS -- INTERVIEW WITH RONNIE CUMMINS The Satya Interview with Ronnie Cummins Many compassionate consumers believe that buying organic food is the only way to go. The label organic means refuge from pesticides, chemicals and the damaging practices of the commercial food industry. High-quality, mouth-watering, nutrient-rich produce -- all harvested fresh from the farm, right? We tend to assume organic food producers are all small farmers who combine ecologically sound farming practices with a political agenda to promote and develop local sustainable food systems. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. The Organic Consumers Association (OCA) formed in 1998 after organic consumers criticized the U.S. Department of Agriculture's proposed national regulations for organic certification of food.
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
It's still in production Mike McGinness wrote: What year was it made? Mike McGinness Marty Phee wrote: My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel. Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote: Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars. The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels. Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L range. Mark *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jan Warnqvist *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:46 PM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* [Biofuel] American diesels Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
I looked at the Sprinter - anyone own one? Mike Weaver wrote: Yeah, I never learned to drive an automatic transmission either... Zeke Yewdall wrote: Nope, the jeep liberty is an italian company -- Venti or something? Another poster had the name right. 2.8 liter common rail diesel. I know a few people who use B20 in them without issues. I hadn't priced the premium out. (because you can't get a manual transmission in them, so i didn't want one anyway) The sprinter van from Dodge uses a mercedes 3 liter diesel though. On 5/19/06, Williams, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure the diesel available in the current Jeep Liberty is a Mercedes 2.7 and it's a pricy option at around $5,000. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dunlap Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:56 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Thank you! I can use this information. Jonathan lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jeep Diesel engine was the Italian VM engine, the same that was fitted to some European cars. VM was connected with Jeep/Chrysler but was taken over by GM causing the parts prices for the VM through Jeep to go through the roof. The Chev Blazer Diesels had 6 volts for the glow plugs, 12 volts for running and 24 volts for starting in the earlier stages. The control systems for this very basic GM engine was over the top as was a modified truck engine to fit the smaller 4 wheel drive. The injector pump was a bit of a problem in many areas including the glass ball that fitted to the air bleed back system. Very troublesome removing burnt glow plugs if the engine had been jump started incorrectly. Very noisy when running. The Fords should not be too much of a problem as in many parts of the world Ford is connected to Mazda and thus the smaller Mazda Diesel engines. Toyota Diesel engines are the best option we have here. The are easily fitted to Jeeps, Fords and others onto the original transmissions. Doug The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick shift model. The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of the 70's. Miserable cars. The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models better. there were many models available 20 years or so ago - Isuzu, Toyota, Mazda, MB and VW. ONly VW and still offer diesel cars. bob allen wrote: about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of about 7 liters. No small trucks and no sedans. Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Warnqvist;Jan FN:Jan Warnqvist ORG:AGERATEC AB TEL;WORK;VOICE:+46 11 33 53 70 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+46 70 4993845 URL;WORK:http://www.ageratec.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20060518T194543Z END:VCARD ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Would this be the same for a 2006 350 with a diesel as the powerplant? Jonathanlres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ford have had for several years not only the availability to Mazda Diesel engines but also the derivative of the Daimler Puch Styre engine. The Landrover Discoveries and others run with this now Ford engine. It has all but the same power to weight as petrol but is very expensive in parts and technology. There is no connection to the engine other than by electronics in the throttle/accelerator. The unit is solely computerized. See an earlier article I wrote. US$22,000 for the test and diagnostic equipment for the Fords all up last quote. Have not seen the specs on the latest Ford light trucks and pickups but presume them to be operating the derivatives of either Mazda or Styre (Daimler Puch). Would very much like to know the engine configuration if you have the information.Being me I would wander if Ford were just after the machining and equipment as an engine factory from Cummins. Seems with new laws coming in for diesel emissions that the Cummins would need a total face lift to comply, not just a Cat added to the exhausts. Where Ford alreadyhas the engine, the know how and needs the place and name.Doug - Original Message - From: Craig Harris To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Ford planning on buying Cummins and also introducing a hybrid diesel. F150 are all ready running in target cities with diesels.- Original Message - From: Mike Weaver To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick shift model.The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of the 70's. Miserable cars.The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models better.there were many models available 20 years or so ago - Isuzu, Toyota, Mazda, MB and VW. ONly VW and still offer diesel cars.bob allen wrote:about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of about 7 liters. No small trucks and no sedans.Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan WarnqvistBEGIN:VCARDVERSION:2.1N:Warnqvist;JanFN:Jan WarnqvistORG:AGERATEC ABTEL;WORK;VOICE:+46 11 33 53 70TEL;CELL;VOICE:+46 70 4993845URL;WORK:http://www.ageratec.comEMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]REV:20060518T194543ZEND:VCARD___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
Thanks Dave now you have me drooling, lres1 wrote: Jim, Very easy to put into the early Jeeps and keep the original gear box and transfer box as well as the 4 wheel drive. There are two different early jeeps, well quite a lot really. Made by Ford and many other companies, the original designer got zippo for his troubles in designing them. The basic difference is the bonnet a high bonnet and a low bonnet. That is one has a bonnet that is about 8 Inches high and thus the radiator etc to match, the other has a bonnet about 2 inches high at the most. Am at present rebuilding one with the low bonnet. Have just finished a CJ5 series with a Nissan Diesel and gear box as the front end was rubbish. Low bonnet: Your limit here is the height to clear the sump from the front end and the throttle cable to clear the bonnet as the throttle cable sits on top of the engine over the breather pipes thus it being the highest part of the engine. Mine is the CJ-5 version made by Willys. The bonnet is taller than the CJ-2A and Lower than a CJ-3B (High Hood) However it is much more than the Ford Mutt. High bonnet: All but any thing in the way of a 4 cylinder will fit as that extra 6 inches leaves a lot more room to play with and keep all intact. Removal of the fan shroud also leaves a lot more room to the front where the cramping would normally take place. An overhead cam belt drive 2.2 or 2.4L does very well in the high and low bonnet. Need to modify the sump and oil pickups plus a few other items, especially in the low bonnet version, and make the bellhousing/adapter plate. However all this is quite easy. Need also to know if it is Ford or other make of the original engine. One has part of the bellhousing as part of the cylinder block casting one has a flat finish to the rear of the block, very easy to see the difference in the blocks. Original Willys Flat head Four Cylinder 30K miles. original. The intake manifold for these engines was from memory the first to incorporate the NZ design of a hotbox for more fuel economy. If your jeep is original it is easy to run on Ethanol due to the manifold system if it has the NZ design fitted as original. The original has the manifold coming up slightly from the carburetor and sits on top bolted to the exhaust manifold. Very easy for water injection and ethanol this system. Flat head side valve 4 cylinder no oil filter but an accessory fitted later. Now you make me want to start thinmking ethanol. Do i have to make modifications? As above is very easy to fit a Toyota 2.2 or 2.4 NA engine into these vehicles. Did you want the four wheel drive still working as original? Yes, I want to keep it as is as it is so practical for this area. It is also the only thing I can still work on. LOL Doug Doug, would it be possible to put a Toyota diesel into a 1958 Willys Jeep? Jim lres1 wrote: Hello all, If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford, Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine there are some quite easy steps to achieving it using the original transmission etc. Can do this on the JtF sight as can give pictures and instructions. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Doug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/ with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? Thank you, JonathanJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave now you have me drooling,lres1 wrote:Jim,Very easy to put into the early Jeeps and keep the original gear box andtransfer box as well as the 4 wheel drive.There are two different early jeeps, well quite a lot really. Made by Fordand many other companies, the original designer got zippo for his troublesin designing them. The basic difference is the bonnet a high bonnet and alow bonnet. That is one has a bonnet that is about 8 Inches high and thusthe radiator etc to match, the other has a bonnet about 2 inches high at themost. Am at present rebuilding one with the low bonnet. Have just finished aCJ5 series with a Nissan Diesel and gear box as the front end was rubbish.Low bonnet: Your limit here is the height to clear the sump from the frontend and the throttle cable to clear the bonnet as the throttle cable sits ontop of the engine over the breather pipes thus it being the highest part ofthe engine. Mine is the CJ-5 version made by Willys. The bonnet is taller than the CJ-2A and Lower than a CJ-3B (High Hood) However it is much more than the Ford Mutt.High bonnet: All but any thing in the way of a 4 cylinder will fit as thatextra 6 inches leaves a lot more room to play with and keep all intact.Removal of the fan shroud also leaves a lot more room to the front where thecramping would normally take place. An overhead cam belt drive 2.2 or 2.4Ldoes very well in the high and low bonnet. Need to modify the sump and oilpickups plus a few other items, especially in the low bonnet version, andmake the bellhousing/adapter plate. However all this is quite easy.Need also to know if it is Ford or other make of the original engine. Onehas part of the bellhousing as part of the cylinder block casting one has aflat finish to the rear of the block, very easy to see the difference in theblocks. Original Willys Flat head Four Cylinder 30K miles. original.The intake manifold for these engines was from memory the first toincorporate the NZ design of a "hotbox" for more fuel economy. If your jeepis original it is easy to run on Ethanol due to the manifold system if ithas the NZ design fitted as original. The original has the manifold comingup slightly from the carburetor and sits on top bolted to the exhaustmanifold. Very easy for water injection and ethanol this system. Flat headside valve 4 cylinder no oil filter but an accessory fitted later. Now you make me want to start thinmking ethanol. Do i have to make modifications?As above is very easy to fit a Toyota 2.2 or 2.4 NA engine into thesevehicles. Did you want the four wheel drive still working as original? Yes, I want to keep it as is as it is so practical for this area. It is also the only thing I can still work on. LOLDoug Doug,would it be possible to put a Toyota diesel into a 1958 Willys Jeep?Jimlres1 wrote: Hello all,If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford,Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine thereare some quite easy steps to achieving it using the originaltransmission etc. Can do this on the JtF sight as can give picturesand instructions.If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on theJtF sight. If this is okay with the admin.Doug-- This message has been scanned for viruses anddangerous content by Lao Telecom *MailScanner* with NOD32, and isbelieved to be clean.___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses anddangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and isbelieved to be clean. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ J.J.A.M., Inc. Jonathan Lynden DunlapIS Network Systems AnalystYour PC Linux Specialist P.O. Box 4209Inglewood, California 90309-4209323-779-2752/HomeThe information contained in this transmission is
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
This is our car! 1979 MB 300D. It's amazingly stable, it loves to putter along the hwy all day, which is why I feel I can take it the 6000 km to pick up my daughter. However, the (automatic) transmission does slip a bit. It's been slipping a bit for two years without change. Fix it first? Or somewhere in Moose Jaw, that's the question. Jesse From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:06:19 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Your best bet for a small US diesel car is a used MB 300D Keith Addison wrote: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html Diesel cars in the US More or less complete I think. Best Keith What year was it made? Mike McGinness Marty Phee wrote: My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel. Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote: Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars. The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels. Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L range. Mark *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jan Warnqvist *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:46 PM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* [Biofuel] American diesels Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
Fix it! I had a 300SD - wish I'd kept it mark manchester wrote: This is our car! 1979 MB 300D. It's amazingly stable, it loves to putter along the hwy all day, which is why I feel I can take it the 6000 km to pick up my daughter. However, the (automatic) transmission does slip a bit. It's been slipping a bit for two years without change. Fix it first? Or somewhere in Moose Jaw, that's the question. Jesse From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:06:19 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Your best bet for a small US diesel car is a used MB 300D Keith Addison wrote: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html Diesel cars in the US More or less complete I think. Best Keith What year was it made? Mike McGinness Marty Phee wrote: My Jeep liberty has a 2.7L diesel. Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote: Mainly because there are very few small diesel power cars. The standard is the 4000lb+ trucks with V8 Cummins Turbo diesels. Im not sure there is a 4 cylinder US made diesel in the 2L range. Mark *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jan Warnqvist *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:46 PM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Subject:* [Biofuel] American diesels Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS
Hi Marylyn, Thanks for the articles. I belong to OCA, a great orginization that is struggling to keep organic organic against big industrial agriculturilists who want to totally destroy its meaning and significance. Do you have any updates about Codex Alimentarius? Is that still lurking in the background? Yep, NAIS will have a big negative impact on the small farmer, for sure. They should be excluded from it. It is another bad idea in a very long string of them coming from BushCo. It is a coincidence that I attended a seminar on detoxing a couple nights ago and most of the time was spent discussing the liver, the human liver of course :-) Peace and light, D. Mindock P.S. I will have to check out rachel.org There is a lot of good information from Rachel's in the list archives. Peter Montague who runs Rachel's (the Environmental Research Foundation) is excellent, and he seldom gets it wrong. Very good online library, along with currently 854 issues of Rachel's Weekly on file there. http://www.rachel.org/ Environmental Research Foundation Definitely a site to bookmark. Rachel's Weekly is usually written by Peter and or Tim Montague. Rachel's Precaution Reporter is more like a news service, material from other sources in Rachel's areas of interest (especially relating to the Precautionary Principle). Best Keith - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS While I was aware that the original organic movement .. consumer driven was taken over by the government quite a few years ago .. I was not aware the the USDA was the governing agency .. but of course, if I had thought about it that would have seemed obvious. But who could have imagined somethings so vile. It would be my opinion that organic growers .. given the facts of NAIS .. would constitute a very strong voice .. with or without animals .. they generally are intelligent people who have the ability to connect the dots. There could/would be - easily - enough of a ground swell to place information packets in Health Food Stores and begin to reach beyond the animal people. There are enough of these people who have been so chemical compromised that their very lives (or the lives of their children/loved one) depend on being able to obtain chemical free foods. That limited source is only from those very Mom and Pop farms the USDA and their NAIS programs are most likely to cause to go away because of either their eradication program or the simple financial burdon of trying to stay in business. I am also aware that now that the organic label is in the hands of a government agency (sorry, I've forgotten just how many of the panel are needed from each category) there is a major push from factory farms to relax the organic standards. For the record I do purchase from an Natural farm .. 3 generations that never went chemical .. they raise their own beef, turkey, chickens .. if you eat one of their turkeys you will take a nap .. but it tastes like turkey and not like wet cardboard. I feed raw with my dogs and I did purchase the WHOLE LIVER from this farmer .. I'll never do it again, but that's because it was something like 25 pounds .. but I learned a wonderful lesson with that purchase. The liver is the first to show signs of body disintegration .. back in the 80's, something like 80% of all calves liver was unfit for human consumption due to liver distruction .. I do not believe those percentages have improved. If any farmer is willing to let any consumer see that whole liver he has absolutely nothing to hide. BUT .. I am also aware that the ability to talk with farmers isn't available because we don't have the access .. living in large cities .. and or don't have the inclination and/or observation. I will repeat what I've said in a previous post .. this whole agency needs to be dis-banded .. and dis-banded NOW!! Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rachel News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rachel's News #855: Nanotech Showdown Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:32:45 -0400 From: Satya, Apr. 15, 2006 [Printer-friendly version] THE ROTTEN SIDE OF ORGANICS -- INTERVIEW WITH RONNIE CUMMINS The Satya Interview with Ronnie Cummins snip ___ Biofuel mailing list
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Another view of the Pentagon Strike
Apart from scale and spectacular means, how were 9/11 and Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma so different as to evoke such a different response? They weren't so different, but the response certainly was. Not only McVeigh. Every now and then someone says what about the anthrax letters. And what about this? Arguing with a WMD denialist two years ago: ... the previous such occasion was in Oklahoma, no? The response to that was rather different, but perhaps not less ineffective. I think this is not very unusual: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1174639,00.html They seemed normal but plotted to kill thousands ... their capture has revealed a gaping hole in America's war on terror: the home front. ... http://cbs11tv.com/investigations/local_story_330180036.html CBS 11: CBS 11 Investigates Poison Gas Plot Professionals in the US are concerned and puzzled by how little attention is paid to the home front. Why's that, do you think? No oil in Texas? In the small town of Noonday, Texas, F.B.I. agents discovered a weapons cache containing fully automatic machine guns, remote-controlled explosive devices disguised as briefcases, 60 pipe bombs and a chemical weapon --- a cyanide bomb --- big enough to kill everyone in a 30,000-square-foot building. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/22/opinion/22KRUG.html?ex=1148270400en =0c12da72e3f20ba3ei=5070 The New York Times Opinion Op-Ed Columnist: Noonday in the Shade It hardly even made the press. http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040311-030156-8181r United Press International: Outside View: Who is William Krar? WASHINGTON, March 14 (UPI) -- Since his appointment as attorney general, John Ashcroft's Washington office has issued 2,295 news releases. Not one of them has mentioned the name William Joseph Krar. Jose Padilla, the accused dirty bomber, didn't have any bomb-making material or even a plausible way to acquire such material, yet Mr. Ashcroft put him on front pages around the world. Mr. Krar was caught with an actual chemical bomb, yet Mr. Ashcroft acted as if nothing had happened. (Krugman, NYT, above.) If there were indeed 9/11 motives where people are seeing them, then what was useful about 9/11 that wasn't useful about William Krar et al? Maybe that is the problem, that there's not much oil left in Texas these days. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17637 The American Taliban January 22, 2004 http://www.inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=617_0_3_0_C In These Times | Homegrown Terrorists http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/04/cyanide.sentencing.ap/ CNN.com - Man with huge weapons cache sentenced to 11 years - May 4, 2004 Best Keith Hi Clint, So you think that 9/11 is as the official government story says it is? I am not quite sure because your statements seem to collide with each other. WRT myself, I have no doubt that 9/11 was an inside job. There exists an overwhelming number of contradictions between the evidence and the gov's story line. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Clint Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Another view of the Pentagon Strike To Paraphrase Mr. Barnum, There's a conspiratorist born ever minute. The Big Bad Government can't even successfully conceal an NSA program to monitor phone numbers, how can anyone think they could keep something on that scale quiet. Get a life!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:22 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Another view of the Pentagon Strike E. C. wrote: Hey, Mike; How many folks are in the FBI's witness protection program?? Beats me. But I do think it would be a challenge to make all those people just disappear - some of them had families according to the paper. if the FBI was able to confiscate ALL video records within a few minutes, how long to divert a flight secure the passengers? Especially if u know ahead what's coming? There were no major parts of Flight 93 found, either, according to emerg. I haven't heard that but I can't explain it. It does seem odd. After that plane went down in the Atlantic a few years ago they found quite a bit of it. Response workers first on the scene -- 3 WTC towers came down in what looked a lot like controlled demolition, even tho 1 plane struck each of 2 towers, which were built to withstand impact of precisely this type .. Actually the towers were built to sustain the impact of smaller planes - which were the norm when they were built. There was an interview with the architect - I believe in The New Yorker (note: I'm not swearing as to the source, so don't go all biofuels list on me ;-) The towers did withstand the strike only to collapse later. Meanwhile, the shrub his cabal
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
what site are you speaking of, i am considering installiing a vw 1.6turbo diesel, with trans into a chryser mini van. thanks Doug's talking about the Journey to Forever website. Maybe I should make it clear again. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Actually it's got nothing to do with the list admin. The Journey to Forever website and the Biofuel list are associated but they're not the same. I own the list, or maybe it owns me rather, or part-owns me, and so does JtF, but the list is independent and has a mind of its own. The list has no say over JtF, and the parameters for JtF website content are not the same as the list's. Journey to Forever is not just a biofuels site, not at all, and this is only peripherally about biofuels anyway. In other words you'd have to ask me, we could see if it fits or not. I'm not sure that it does fit. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner From: lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:48:10 +0700 Hello all, If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford, Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine there are some quite easy steps to achieving it using the original transmission etc. Can do this on the JtF sight as can give pictures and instructions. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Doug ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS
With the USDA program NAIS having a 10 mile radius kill ability .. if any suspected disease is found they will have the right to come into your house/farm/garden/barn/garage and remove and kill any animal .. they are not limiting this kill program to just those animals that may carry that particular disease .. Pet dogs and cats are mentioned with a vague wording about not being clear about whether or not a particular disease can be harbored by different species. We already know that it can be because these government inspectors have actually carried diseases from one farm to another by not properly following dis-infection procedures. In other words, if this program is allowed to go forward they can take everything. If your organic farm lies within a 10 mile radius it simply wouldn't matter if organic farms are exempt. .. the wording also includes something to the effect that they do not have to report any of their findings to the general public. There is something that would require them to report any findings to the owner of the animals but I'm fairly certain that would not be just compensation to a family that had been breeding and raising individual stock over a couple of generations. In my own area there is several small farms that have such programs .. there are 2 such farms that do their own breeding and 1 farm that purchases calves from elsewhere .. these animals are raised in limited numbers .. no more that 50 in one place, probably a little less than 100 in the other. One of the farmers transports his own beef from his farm in New Jersey to his butcher shop in Pennsylvania where he slaughters and trims this meat for his small butcher shop in Reigelsville, PA. I might add that his customers have been coming to him from his grandfathers time to obtain his grass fed beef. Also in my area .. Warren County, NJ .. the state government has severely restricted any additional building in an effort to protect the watershed .. that has left any remaining land in unprotected areas as coveted prizes for all the developers and builders. A program exists where a farmer can sell his farm to the land preservation program. This program them protects this as farm land it can never be used for anything except farm land .. and the family can stay in their home without facing a fairly ruthless group of hungry people .. the developers. To qualify for this land preservation program the property in question must meet certain qualifications .. 100 acres or more is one of them. What this boils down to is that those farms that don't have enough acreage to qualify are under some sever pressure .. sometimes to actually physically protect their planted crops and animals. Several farms are made up of many acres of land but not necessarily joined .. these don't qualify. I usually eat lunch at a great deli that also seems to be a favored lunch spot for the local farmers and I hear them talking .. one has at this point had to re-plant 2 fields because a fairly large truck drove into his newly planted fields and dug up such a large portion of it. The state police informed him that it has happened in several other areas .. either the same or a similar truck. This 10 mile kill radius places a rather nasty tool in the hands of individuals who .. for their own reasons .. want to drive out a particular farmer. The way I see it is that I have been granted certain rights by the Constitution. Right now that Constitution is under attack by our (U.S.) current administration. The USDA is attempting to institute a program that takes away many or those granted rights. By attempting to negotiate with them we are agreeing that they can take away some of those rights, but please don't take them all. I personally have stated that the USDA needs to be disbanded. It is a broken agency that .. from where I sit .. can not be repaired so it should be totally ended. Years ago I listened to a senate committee hearing on the MIAs of Vietnam. What I heard was that our elected representatives were not allowed to see the information and they were not entitled to view anything that the military decided they didn't want to give them. What I didn't understand then .. and what I don't understand now .. is exactly why would any of those elected representatives approve any military budget ever .. and now the USDA budget. The total funding is the only weapon you have. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re:
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Another view of the Pentagon Strike
A note: At first OK City was blamed on Arab Terrorists - we as a nation were perfectly ready to accept this without evidence. Pretty scary. Extremism comes in all stripes. Calling for the assassination of Venezuela's president? I'm no longer sure what to believe with regards the the WTC strike. It does seem to be unraveling. Keith Addison wrote: Apart from scale and spectacular means, how were 9/11 and Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma so different as to evoke such a different response? They weren't so different, but the response certainly was. Not only McVeigh. Every now and then someone says what about the anthrax letters. And what about this? Arguing with a WMD denialist two years ago: ... the previous such occasion was in Oklahoma, no? The response to that was rather different, but perhaps not less ineffective. I think this is not very unusual: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1174639,00.html They seemed normal but plotted to kill thousands ... their capture has revealed a gaping hole in America's war on terror: the home front. ... http://cbs11tv.com/investigations/local_story_330180036.html CBS 11: CBS 11 Investigates Poison Gas Plot Professionals in the US are concerned and puzzled by how little attention is paid to the home front. Why's that, do you think? No oil in Texas? In the small town of Noonday, Texas, F.B.I. agents discovered a weapons cache containing fully automatic machine guns, remote-controlled explosive devices disguised as briefcases, 60 pipe bombs and a chemical weapon --- a cyanide bomb --- big enough to kill everyone in a 30,000-square-foot building. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/22/opinion/22KRUG.html?ex=1148270400en =0c12da72e3f20ba3ei=5070 The New York Times Opinion Op-Ed Columnist: Noonday in the Shade It hardly even made the press. http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040311-030156-8181r United Press International: Outside View: Who is William Krar? WASHINGTON, March 14 (UPI) -- Since his appointment as attorney general, John Ashcroft's Washington office has issued 2,295 news releases. Not one of them has mentioned the name William Joseph Krar. Jose Padilla, the accused dirty bomber, didn't have any bomb-making material or even a plausible way to acquire such material, yet Mr. Ashcroft put him on front pages around the world. Mr. Krar was caught with an actual chemical bomb, yet Mr. Ashcroft acted as if nothing had happened. (Krugman, NYT, above.) If there were indeed 9/11 motives where people are seeing them, then what was useful about 9/11 that wasn't useful about William Krar et al? Maybe that is the problem, that there's not much oil left in Texas these days. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17637 The American Taliban January 22, 2004 http://www.inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=617_0_3_0_C In These Times | Homegrown Terrorists http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/04/cyanide.sentencing.ap/ CNN.com - Man with huge weapons cache sentenced to 11 years - May 4, 2004 Best Keith Hi Clint, So you think that 9/11 is as the official government story says it is? I am not quite sure because your statements seem to collide with each other. WRT myself, I have no doubt that 9/11 was an inside job. There exists an overwhelming number of contradictions between the evidence and the gov's story line. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Clint Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Another view of the Pentagon Strike To Paraphrase Mr. Barnum, There's a conspiratorist born ever minute. The Big Bad Government can't even successfully conceal an NSA program to monitor phone numbers, how can anyone think they could keep something on that scale quiet. Get a life!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:22 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Another view of the Pentagon Strike E. C. wrote: Hey, Mike; How many folks are in the FBI's witness protection program?? Beats me. But I do think it would be a challenge to make all those people just disappear - some of them had families according to the paper. if the FBI was able to confiscate ALL video records within a few minutes, how long to divert a flight secure the passengers? Especially if u know ahead what's coming? There were no major parts of Flight 93 found, either, according to emerg. I haven't heard that but I can't explain it. It does seem odd. After that plane went down in the Atlantic a few years ago they found quite a bit of it. Response workers first on the scene -- 3 WTC towers came down in what looked a lot like controlled demolition, even tho 1 plane struck each of 2 towers, which were built to withstand impact of precisely this type ..
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
Jonathan, You asked I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? To start, locate a 2.8 NA Toyota engine with its bellhousing and clutch plates (fan to clutch engine.) If you can not verify the distance the engine has covered or the hours it has run then replace the timing belt, timing belt tensionersand check the injector nozzles to see if they are flat faced or burnt (pitted). If pitted replace the injector nozzles. Take the gearbox and transfer box from the vehicle and place it on blocks so it sits in its correct position, as though it was still mounted in the vehicle (the angles need to be correct longitudinally and across the box.) At this stage the Bell housing should still be on the removed gearbox. There are two types of clutch operating systems fitted to the YJ.One is an internal unit- constructed thrust bearing and slave cylinder, the other is a separate clutch slave cylinder that fits through from the back of the bellhousing and presses onto a clutch fork. This later is very important to get the distances correct in the movement of the fork type. You will need to measure the exact distance from the front face of the gearbox to the center of travel position on the clutch fork along the thrust bearing slide shaft. Don't measure from the bellhousing as this will be discarded. Removethe bellhousing off the Toyota engine. Placethe front end of the bellhousingover a 3/4 inch plate of steel and with a marker pen mark all the holes and the inside and outside of the bellhousing onto the plate. Pay particular attention to the locatingdowels and the starter motor mount holes. Remove the bellhousing from the YJ gearbox. Place the back end of the bellhousing from the YJ onto a 3/4 inch plate and mark out the plate with a marker pen making sure to get locating dowels in their correct position. Take the clutch plate and locate one with a spline that fits the YJ spigot shaft and the same diameter friction area as the original from the Toyota engine. If you can't find one no worries strip the clutch plate and fit the Jeep center into a new Toyota plate and replace the rivets. With a pin punch mark out the inside and outside of the two plates. Also pin punch all the holes. Note; some of the holes in the copy of the engine plate will need to be Tapped/threaded and one for the clutch fork pivot in the gear box housing will need to be tapped/threaded. Once pilot holes are drilled in both plates remember which holes need to be what size and which need threads tapped into them. Cut out both plates with a cutting torch and with a small grinder clean all surfaces. Drill all the holes to the correct sizes and thread those holes needing threads. Remove the spigot bearing from the center of the crank shaft on the Toyota engine and machineup a bronze bush that is firm in the crankshaft and slightly loose on the end of the spigot shaft. Fit the bush to the Toyota crankshaft. (A bush is okay as the Nissans use a bush and so do many other vehicles. The needle rollers that come out are not so easy to locate, hence the bush option. Assemble the clutch and pressure plate onto the Toyota engine, making sure that the spigot shaft slides in with ease. Fit one plate to the rear of the engine and one to the front of the gearbox. Keep the gearbox as it was blocked up on wood chocks or some such so that it sits well off the ground but in the exact angles and position it would when in the YJ. Slide the engine back onto the spigot shaft making sure that the distance that you measured to the center of the clutch fork from the face of the gearbox is where the clutch pressure plate rests on the clutch thrust bearing. Check that all is aligned with all bolts in place and the rear engine plate you have made parallel to the front gearbox plate you have made. Also the engine back where the clutch forkwas measured to be in the center of its travel and the engine not leaning to either side. That is no lean on the engine. Make sure at this stage that the engine and gearbox are firmly chocked in this position. With 1inch by 1/8 inch flat bar cut lengths to go under the engine bolts on the plate you made for the engineand extend to the outer rim of the gearbox plate you made. That is the flat bar should not be bent but go straight from just under a bolt on the engine plate to the outer area of the gearbox plate. Put one bar at the top, cut another for the correct length to fit at 90 degrees from the top bar and then the same for one on the other side of the engine. Weld these bars in place. Measuring all the time and making sure the engine or gearbox does not move. Fill in the gaps around the plates you made joining the engine to the gearbox with 1 inch flat bar. Remember that the bolts on the engine plate you made will need to be removed so make the welds with just enough clearance for a ring spanner and thin walled socket to take the bolts
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
Jim/JonathanNot so long ago finished the conversion of a Cherokee export edition to a Hilux diesel engine. Goes well with good economy. Have a YJ here about to be modified with the 4.0L MPEFI to run on Ethanol and 15 to 20% water injected to the intake manifold. Asked on the list if any one had done this conversion but no replies so guess not yet. The 4.0L MPEFI will be about 60 days to set up on Ethanol and water vapor. The YJ has heaps of room and even the adapter for the diesel is easy to make. The CJ5 also has loads of room and is able to take the Nissan and the Toyota engines. Me I prefer the 2.8 NA Toyota engine, has got that little bit more. To run on Ethanol see the Solar challenge from Darwin, the oldest car with the oldest average age of participants. All on ethanol. The CJ5 has a good solid carburetor system and the hot box, needs it for ethanol more so than gas. The carburetor orifices you will find how to modify on this biofuel site. The water injection can be accomplished in many ways from steam, venturisuction, pump and nozzle or as we have here on a demo single cylinder the ethanol has 15 to 20 water in it. That is the Ethanol is wet. This passes okay through the modified Carburetor with no adverse effects yet. Hence the move to the YJ. Have a mini moke here with a Honda single cylinder stationary engine running into a Lada clutch and gearbox into a Daihatsu rear end and Daihatsu front end fitted to the moke Rack steering with Opal top to the steering shafts. Pulls an 8 x 4 box trailer around town okay. Not bad on fuel at all. Doug I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? Thank you, JonathanJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave now you have me drooling,lres1 wrote:Jim,Very easy to put into the early Jeeps and keep the original gear box andtransfer box as well as the 4 wheel drive.There are two different early jeeps, well quite a lot really. Made by Fordand many other companies, the original designer got zippo for his troublesin designing them. The basic difference is the bonnet a high bonnet and alow bonnet. That is one has a bonnet that is about 8 Inches high and thusthe radiator etc to match, the other has a bonnet about 2 inches high at themost. Am at present rebuilding one with the low bonnet. Have just finished aCJ5 series with a Nissan Diesel and gear box as the front end was rubbish.Low bonnet: Your limit here is the height to clear the sump from the frontend and the throttle cable to clear the bonnet as the throttle cable sits ontop of the engine over the breather pipes thus it being the highest part ofthe engine. Mine is the CJ-5 version made by Willys. The bonnet is taller than the CJ-2A and Lower than a CJ-3B (High Hood) However it is much more than the Ford Mutt.High bonnet: All but any thing in the way of a 4 cylinder will fit as thatextra 6 inches leaves a lot more room to play with and keep all intact.Removal of the fan shroud also leaves a lot more room to the front where thecramping would normally take place. An overhead cam belt drive 2.2 or 2.4Ldoes very well in the high and low bonnet. Need to modify the sump and oilpickups plus a few other items, especially in the low bonnet version, andmake the bellhousing/adapter plate. However all this is quite easy.Need also to know if it is Ford or other make of the original engine. Onehas part of the bellhousing as part of the cylinder block casting one has aflat finish to the rear of the block, very easy to see the difference in theblocks. Original Willys Flat head Four Cylinder 30K miles. original.The intake manifold for these engines was from memory the first toincorporate the NZ design of a "hotbox" for more fuel economy. If your jeepis original it is easy to run on Ethanol due to the manifold system if ithas the NZ design fitted as original. The original has the manifold comingup slightly from the carburetor and sits on top bolted to the exhaustmanifold. Very easy for water injection and ethanol this system. Flat headside valve 4 cylinder no oil filter but an accessory fitted later. Now you make me want to start thinmking ethanol. Do i have to make modifications?As above is very easy to fit a Toyota 2.2 or 2.4 NA engine into thesevehicles. Did you want the four wheel drive still working as original? Yes, I want to keep it as is as it is so practical for this area. It is also the only thing I can still work on. LOLDoug Doug,would it be possible to put a Toyota diesel into a 1958 Willys Jeep?Jimlres1 wrote: Hello all,If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford,Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine thereare some quite easy steps to achieving it using the
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
Great write up - makes me miss my wrenching days! If the donor motor is in a body and can be started, you can also do a compression test, a little down is ok as long as it is relatively even across the cylinders. One that is way down indicates trouble. One reason old diesels won't start even if everything looks perfect is lack of compression. Good luck! Mike lres1 wrote: Jonathan, You asked I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? To start, locate a 2.8 NA Toyota engine with its bellhousing and clutch plates (fan to clutch engine.) If you can not verify the distance the engine has covered or the hours it has run then replace the timing belt, timing belt tensioners and check the injector nozzles to see if they are flat faced or burnt (pitted). If pitted replace the injector nozzles. Take the gearbox and transfer box from the vehicle and place it on blocks so it sits in its correct position, as though it was still mounted in the vehicle (the angles need to be correct longitudinally and across the box.) At this stage the Bell housing should still be on the removed gearbox. There are two types of clutch operating systems fitted to the YJ. One is an internal unit- constructed thrust bearing and slave cylinder, the other is a separate clutch slave cylinder that fits through from the back of the bellhousing and presses onto a clutch fork. This later is very important to get the distances correct in the movement of the fork type. You will need to measure the exact distance from the front face of the gearbox to the center of travel position on the clutch fork along the thrust bearing slide shaft. Don't measure from the bellhousing as this will be discarded. Remove the bellhousing off the Toyota engine. Place the front end of the bellhousing over a 3/4 inch plate of steel and with a marker pen mark all the holes and the inside and outside of the bellhousing onto the plate. Pay particular attention to the locating dowels and the starter motor mount holes. Remove the bellhousing from the YJ gearbox. Place the back end of the bellhousing from the YJ onto a 3/4 inch plate and mark out the plate with a marker pen making sure to get locating dowels in their correct position. Take the clutch plate and locate one with a spline that fits the YJ spigot shaft and the same diameter friction area as the original from the Toyota engine. If you can't find one no worries strip the clutch plate and fit the Jeep center into a new Toyota plate and replace the rivets. With a pin punch mark out the inside and outside of the two plates. Also pin punch all the holes. Note; some of the holes in the copy of the engine plate will need to be Tapped/threaded and one for the clutch fork pivot in the gear box housing will need to be tapped/threaded. Once pilot holes are drilled in both plates remember which holes need to be what size and which need threads tapped into them. Cut out both plates with a cutting torch and with a small grinder clean all surfaces. Drill all the holes to the correct sizes and thread those holes needing threads. Remove the spigot bearing from the center of the crank shaft on the Toyota engine and machine up a bronze bush that is firm in the crankshaft and slightly loose on the end of the spigot shaft. Fit the bush to the Toyota crankshaft. (A bush is okay as the Nissans use a bush and so do many other vehicles. The needle rollers that come out are not so easy to locate, hence the bush option. Assemble the clutch and pressure plate onto the Toyota engine, making sure that the spigot shaft slides in with ease. Fit one plate to the rear of the engine and one to the front of the gearbox. Keep the gearbox as it was blocked up on wood chocks or some such so that it sits well off the ground but in the exact angles and position it would when in the YJ. Slide the engine back onto the spigot shaft making sure that the distance that you measured to the center of the clutch fork from the face of the gearbox is where the clutch pressure plate rests on the clutch thrust bearing. Check that all is aligned with all bolts in place and the rear engine plate you have made parallel to the front gearbox plate you have made. Also the engine back where the clutch fork was measured to be in the center of its travel and the engine not leaning to either side. That is no lean on the engine. Make sure at this stage that the engine and gearbox are firmly chocked in this position. With 1inch by 1/8 inch flat bar cut lengths to go under the engine bolts on the plate you made for the engine and extend to the outer rim of the gearbox plate you made. That is the flat bar should not be bent but go straight from just under a bolt on the engine plate to the outer area of the gearbox plate. Put one bar at the top, cut another for the correct length to fit
Re: [Biofuel] American diesels
ah yes, but the axle gears in a PU are at a minimum 4.00:1 if one were to reduce this to , oh say 2.00:1 or even closer, then the direct drive (or overdrive) gear in the trans would eliminate a lot of the stress of travel.at 2:1 the max rpm would be 2k-2.5k and at overdrive would be about 15% less than that (1.7k-2.1k) which is totally reasonable. if the mechanic is really savvy, a second transmission could be installed, giving us a double overdrive. (a little complicated on the interstate, but hey, i like manual transmissions) - Original Message - From: lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels Jason Katie wrote. actually, the big Cat 4cylinders can be shoehorned into a full sized pickup, and they get about 20 mpg in the rigs they were designed for. in the smaller PU's they should get a major boost in mileage because there's so much less weight to shove around. Correct the big Cat 4's will fit. However the Big Cat 4 cylinders (3304 etc) are not known to run continuously at 4K to 5K RPM, The connecting rods have gradings, from memory, of 2oz differences in weight as acceptable. They are also not so good in the power to weight ratio. John Deere makes a very good 4 cylinder with twin rotating balance shafts. This again will run all day at 2,200 but not at the 4K to 5K range required by transportation, they are also very heavy. Both the above makes are not cheep for parts or purchase. The P3 was the Perkins fitted to taxis for a while in the 30's and the P4 and P6 fitted to buses and other machines of the time such as loaders and the Massey Ferguson tractor. The 3 cylinder engines, plus the 6 12 etc, take the least in balancing as they are all dynamically balanced thus there weight can be reduced through the lack of counter balance shafts or weighted crankshafts. Doug. - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American diesels The V-8 Ford diesels are actually made by international I think, not Mazda like the small ones. Everyone here seems to like the 6 cylinder Cummins diesel's in the dodge pickups, but not the ford or chevy V8 ones much I think Isuzu actually makes the new chevy ones now, but not sure on that. Funny that the ford-8 diesels are so problematic (I know one person who switched to the chevy 6.5liter since they felt it was so much more reliable...), since the 6 cylinder commercial international diesels are great. We've got one of them in a school bus that's been running veggie oil for a few years. On 5/18/06, lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fords should not be too much of a problem as in many parts of the world Ford is connected to Mazda and thus the smaller Mazda Diesel engines. Doug The smallest one is the Jeep Liberty - fairly heavy and still no stick shift model. The last US build diesels were the ill-fated 5.7 liter conversions of the 70's. Miserable cars. The Dodge Cummins diesel trucks are fine, as are most of the Fords. The GM;s 6.2's were weak - the later models better. there were many models available 20 years or so ago - Isuzu, Toyota, Mazda, MB and VW. ONly VW and still offer diesel cars. bob allen wrote: about the only american made diesels are trucks with engine displacements of about 7 liters. No small trucks and no sedans. Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello everybody in the Americas! I have one question for you concerning BD and the cars consuming it. It seems as if you all are prefering European cars for fueling BD instead of American diesels. Is that true, and in this case why? Arn´t GM:s diesels good for BD ? Jan Warnqvist BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Warnqvist;Jan FN:Jan Warnqvist ORG:AGERATEC AB TEL;WORK;VOICE:+46 11 33 53 70 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+46 70 4993845 URL;WORK:http://www.ageratec.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20060518T194543Z END:VCARD ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006
Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS
I just did a google search on Codex Alimentarius and apparently, with the mighty blessing of the giant pharmaceutical conglomerates, it is still very much there .. I viewed the schedule of meetings at their main page and it had been updated on 5/18/06 .. 2 days ago. My guess is that it's just being quiet but I'm basing that on the fact that the Health Watch sites haven't been updated from 2005 .. but that could just be wishful thinking on my part. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 01:13:44 -0500 Hi Marylyn, Thanks for the articles. I belong to OCA, a great orginization that is struggling to keep organic organic against big industrial agriculturilists who want to totally destroy its meaning and significance. Do you have any updates about Codex Alimentarius? Is that still lurking in the background? Yep, NAIS will have a big negative impact on the small farmer, for sure. They should be excluded from it. It is another bad idea in a very long string of them coming from BushCo. It is a coincidence that I attended a seminar on detoxing a couple nights ago and most of the time was spent discussing the liver, the human liver of course :-) Peace and light, D. Mindock P.S. I will have to check out rachel.org - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Rachel's News - NAIS While I was aware that the original organic movement .. consumer driven was taken over by the government quite a few years ago .. I was not aware the the USDA was the governing agency .. but of course, if I had thought about it that would have seemed obvious. But who could have imagined somethings so vile. It would be my opinion that organic growers .. given the facts of NAIS .. would constitute a very strong voice .. with or without animals .. they generally are intelligent people who have the ability to connect the dots. There could/would be - easily - enough of a ground swell to place information packets in Health Food Stores and begin to reach beyond the animal people. There are enough of these people who have been so chemical compromised that their very lives (or the lives of their children/loved one) depend on being able to obtain chemical free foods. That limited source is only from those very Mom and Pop farms the USDA and their NAIS programs are most likely to cause to go away because of either their eradication program or the simple financial burdon of trying to stay in business. I am also aware that now that the organic label is in the hands of a government agency (sorry, I've forgotten just how many of the panel are needed from each category) there is a major push from factory farms to relax the organic standards. For the record I do purchase from an Natural farm .. 3 generations that never went chemical .. they raise their own beef, turkey, chickens .. if you eat one of their turkeys you will take a nap .. but it tastes like turkey and not like wet cardboard. I feed raw with my dogs and I did purchase the WHOLE LIVER from this farmer .. I'll never do it again, but that's because it was something like 25 pounds .. but I learned a wonderful lesson with that purchase. The liver is the first to show signs of body disintegration .. back in the 80's, something like 80% of all calves liver was unfit for human consumption due to liver distruction .. I do not believe those percentages have improved. If any farmer is willing to let any consumer see that whole liver he has absolutely nothing to hide. BUT .. I am also aware that the ability to talk with farmers isn't available because we don't have the access .. living in large cities .. and or don't have the inclination and/or observation. I will repeat what I've said in a previous post .. this whole agency needs to be dis-banded .. and dis-banded NOW!! Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
has anyone installed a 1.6 vw turbodiesel into a minivan? ray From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:10:36 -0400 Great write up - makes me miss my wrenching days! If the donor motor is in a body and can be started, you can also do a compression test, a little down is ok as long as it is relatively even across the cylinders. One that is way down indicates trouble. One reason old diesels won't start even if everything looks perfect is lack of compression. Good luck! Mike lres1 wrote: Jonathan, You asked I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? To start, locate a 2.8 NA Toyota engine with its bellhousing and clutch plates (fan to clutch engine.) If you can not verify the distance the engine has covered or the hours it has run then replace the timing belt, timing belt tensioners and check the injector nozzles to see if they are flat faced or burnt (pitted). If pitted replace the injector nozzles. Take the gearbox and transfer box from the vehicle and place it on blocks so it sits in its correct position, as though it was still mounted in the vehicle (the angles need to be correct longitudinally and across the box.) At this stage the Bell housing should still be on the removed gearbox. There are two types of clutch operating systems fitted to the YJ. One is an internal unit- constructed thrust bearing and slave cylinder, the other is a separate clutch slave cylinder that fits through from the back of the bellhousing and presses onto a clutch fork. This later is very important to get the distances correct in the movement of the fork type. You will need to measure the exact distance from the front face of the gearbox to the center of travel position on the clutch fork along the thrust bearing slide shaft. Don't measure from the bellhousing as this will be discarded. Remove the bellhousing off the Toyota engine. Place the front end of the bellhousing over a 3/4 inch plate of steel and with a marker pen mark all the holes and the inside and outside of the bellhousing onto the plate. Pay particular attention to the locating dowels and the starter motor mount holes. Remove the bellhousing from the YJ gearbox. Place the back end of the bellhousing from the YJ onto a 3/4 inch plate and mark out the plate with a marker pen making sure to get locating dowels in their correct position. Take the clutch plate and locate one with a spline that fits the YJ spigot shaft and the same diameter friction area as the original from the Toyota engine. If you can't find one no worries strip the clutch plate and fit the Jeep center into a new Toyota plate and replace the rivets. With a pin punch mark out the inside and outside of the two plates. Also pin punch all the holes. Note; some of the holes in the copy of the engine plate will need to be Tapped/threaded and one for the clutch fork pivot in the gear box housing will need to be tapped/threaded. Once pilot holes are drilled in both plates remember which holes need to be what size and which need threads tapped into them. Cut out both plates with a cutting torch and with a small grinder clean all surfaces. Drill all the holes to the correct sizes and thread those holes needing threads. Remove the spigot bearing from the center of the crank shaft on the Toyota engine and machine up a bronze bush that is firm in the crankshaft and slightly loose on the end of the spigot shaft. Fit the bush to the Toyota crankshaft. (A bush is okay as the Nissans use a bush and so do many other vehicles. The needle rollers that come out are not so easy to locate, hence the bush option. Assemble the clutch and pressure plate onto the Toyota engine, making sure that the spigot shaft slides in with ease. Fit one plate to the rear of the engine and one to the front of the gearbox. Keep the gearbox as it was blocked up on wood chocks or some such so that it sits well off the ground but in the exact angles and position it would when in the YJ. Slide the engine back onto the spigot shaft making sure that the distance that you measured to the center of the clutch fork from the face of the gearbox is where the clutch pressure plate rests on the clutch thrust bearing. Check that all is aligned with all bolts in place and the rear engine plate you have made parallel to the front gearbox plate you have made. Also the engine back where the clutch fork was measured to be in the center of its travel and the engine not leaning to either side. That is no lean on the engine. Make sure at this stage that the engine and gearbox are firmly chocked in this position. With 1inch by 1/8 inch flat bar cut lengths to go under the engine bolts on the plate you made for the engine and extend
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
Hello Doug snip Have pictures of bellhousing being made here but not sure where to put it or send. Doug Will you check this message please? http://snipurl.com/qq84 [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Impressive information you're providing. There's a folder at JtF reserved for photographs and so on for the use of the list. It's not actually part of the JtF website, it's just for us here at the list. Members can send me stuff the list wants to see and I'll put it there and post a link. Send me the pictures direct and I'll upload them and do that. I'm not against having this resource at JtF, and thanks for offering. I have to consider it though, also how to handle it, and just where to put it. Organising it would be quite a lot of work, and there's a queue. But don't be discouraged, let's see how it goes and we'll see what we can do. Quite a lot of people have been writing to Journey to Forever asking about diesel conversions, nearly all of them Americans. Quite a lot also want to know if biofuel (turns out to be biodiesel) will work in their gasoline motor. Some of them just get impatient when you tell them it won't. Why not? What do you expect me to do then? So it might be popular, but that's not the only criterion; it's not our focus, but we don't really make rules about it. People here like what you're doing, that's always a good recommendation. Please keep going. Send me the pictures. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio
Your link, to the same site, is not in disagreement with the link I gave. It's just an update. Same story, same site. I don't know how you can say my link was lopsided. The link you provided was all emotion and no detail. The one offered in response included a bit more meat and considerably less emotion. The point is to let the facts speak for themselves. They don't lie or mislead. Emotions often lead readers astray, which is precisely what is intended far too much of the time. Todd Swearingen D. Mindock wrote: Todd, The conversion of our country into a police state is not something I can take lightly. I am POed at what's happening. I hate seeing the promise of America being trashed by a couple of oil barons and their henchmen, oh, and Ms. Rice. The facts were there in the link I gave. If you wish to dig deeper, be my guest. In this day and age of disinformation originating from propaganda disseminated by the US gov, paid for by our tax dollars, who are you going to trust? Have you seen the reportage from the Miami FTAA convention where people, some elderly, who were peacefully protesting were brutally assaulted? The USA is becoming a huge gulag, one day at a time, imo. The incident in Ohio with Carol Fisher was not an isolated incident. Your link, to the same site, is not in disagreement with the link I gave. It's just an update. Same story, same site. I don't know how you can say my link was lopsided. Peace, D. Mindock PS Another update below: May 11, 10pm: Carol Fisher has been released! We'll send out more info when we have it. In the meantime, this is an excellent development. But it's also NOT over. We don't know what the judge and other authorities will do next. Carol's sentencing date is June 2. She still faces 3 years in jail and thousands of dollars in fines. We plan to appeal the verdict and challenge all the gross violations of her rights. Click here to find out what you can do to help. == - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio How about a little less emotionally charged, speech and a little more of the facts? Nothing personal. Just that the link you offered was 1,000% lopsided. Here's a slightly more factual bit, almost devoid of facts in comparison. http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=1482Itemid=184 I'm sure that if one were to dig a little deeper there could be found a more thorough description of the events. While it sounds like a legit beef, it would be great to be afforded details, not whitewash on one side or hype on the other. If you do this stuff long enough, you soon realize that facts are your best friend and uber emotions all too frequently alienate potential advocates. Todd Swearingen D. Mindock wrote: This is happening in America, land of the free home of the brave. America is becoming a land of no compassion for common folk who protest against the crimes of BushCo. Even peace loving pacifists are being put into FBI databases. Anyone who loves peace and hates war is seen as a terrorist to the Oval Office where our Great Decider presides. Peace, D. Mindock http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=1029Itemi ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
