Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys

2005-08-09 Thread Walt Patrick
At 01:33 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Thanks for the info. I really want to do turkeys but the idea of wild birds on free range seems like a lot of work. It there not a tweener turkey breed that is not real stupid but would stay withing mobile fences without escaping? We use India runner

Re: [Biofuel] Re: killing or toppling leaders

2005-04-05 Thread Walt Patrick
Besides, it violates the Constitution, Article VI - The Supreme Law of the Land The only problem is that the Constitution ceased being the Supreme Law of the Land back in 1861. Now even little children swear allegiance, not to the Constitution, but to the flag (the traditional

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol backyard manufacturing possible?

2005-04-02 Thread Walt Patrick
in disagreement with him, they need to go back and check their records to figure out where they went wrong. Walt Patrick of Windward posted some interesting information some time ago and said his organisation would be working on it, but we've heard nothing since. You can check it in the archives if you

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-18 Thread Walt Patrick
Jesse, I hadn't even heard of it. I'm so glad you brought it up. I'm hoping that it was recorded by someone at some time. As you know, there were and are some efforts to record native traditions and languages before they are all lost. These efforts are not nearly as timely or vigorous as I

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-18 Thread Walt Patrick
Walt, I am confused, are you suggesting that documents could not be written before 1200 to 1500 and are you suggesting that manual production of documents (books) were not done? That's the generally accepted understanding, that the only groups capable of making a written record

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-16 Thread Walt Patrick
Has anyone else ever seen a copy of the Six Nations Constitution? It's hard to imagine that any such document could exist. The agreement was formulated sometime between 1200 and 1500, long before the Six Nations had a way to write such an agreement down. Any document prepared in

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-11 Thread Walt Patrick
Hi Keith, Kim, Family of origin, place of origin, it's deep, was what I meant. Somewhere out of our thinking brain. It's an issue, someway or another, as your thoughtful replies imply. Some people search around until they find their real home, and whew! That's satisfaction. I'm a

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-11 Thread Walt Patrick
Having said that I did not feel that way about the land of my birth, I added this: Do you think I must necessarily be deprived in some or many ways because of this? I certainly don't think so. Nor would I say that people who have not gained what I've gained because I did not have their

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-10 Thread Walt Patrick
I am finding this rather interesting. I went back to Canada last year and both hubby and I felt like visitors. We don't live there anymore. Maybe because there are two of us, both from similar culture and transplanted together, that our new home really feels like home. I would say home is

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-31 Thread Walt Patrick
Do not worry, I do not think that China (or any other country) see US as a major source of food for humans. It is almost unconceivable that they would go to such efforts to secure corn supply for their own poultry production. LOL I live in an agricultural county in the Pacific

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-30 Thread Walt Patrick
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for sale, at any given department store in America today, are made in China? This question has bothered me for years. There are those who

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-30 Thread Walt Patrick
Most Americans like Walt Patrick are victims of USA media reporting, which unfortunately twist their facts depending on which lobby pays them in Washington. Here's an example of the twisty reporting that raises concerns. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26539

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-30 Thread Walt Patrick
Japan murdered millions of innocent people in the 2nd World War, more than the Nazis, yet they have more nuclear power stations (2nd to France) than USA. For them to convert to nuclear bombs and embarked on their military is like waiting for history to repeat itself. That's part of

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-30 Thread Walt Patrick
Walt Patrick wrote: That's part of what makes the half trillion dollars held in China's hands so problematic since Japan holds about the same amount of US paper. If China dumps the dollar, that move will likely crash the Japanese economy as well. In short, from the Chinese

Re: [Biofuel] god problems (see, got rid of titration)

2004-12-29 Thread Walt Patrick
Indeed! If we hadn't mortgaged the future of our children on warfare, what kind of goodwill could we be spreading in South Asia right now? I can imagine C 130s laden with food and water. I can envision the Army Corps of Engineers helping to restore infrastructure. I believe the

[Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-21 Thread Walt Patrick
Walt you out there? If so, would you care to chime in and add any new information? Haven't blown myself up yet :-) Don't know that there's anything I'd call new but it's more along the lines of the saying that the only thing new is the history you don't know. There have been so

Re: [Biofuel]Beaten Afgan bride

2004-10-18 Thread Walt Patrick
Short story : A journalist went in Afghanistan when the talibans ruled the country. She was shocked to see the women respectuously walking 10 meters behind theirs husbands or brothers along the road. She flied back last year and has been glad to see that things have changed, and now the women

Re: [Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen

2004-10-13 Thread Walt Patrick
Walt, If I charge an EV from my solar panels, I can go twice as far than If I used that electric to electrolyze hydrogen, compress it, and burn it in a fuel cell. Not to mention the costs involved with the electrolyzer, the compressor, and the fuel cell far outweigh the cost of an EV. Now why

Re: [Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen

2004-10-12 Thread Walt Patrick
Did you consider how many kWh it would have taken for that 30 miles on hydrogen, then compared how many miles that amount of kWh would have taken you on a pure EV? More than 60 miles .. But a vehicle with a range of 60 miles is of less utility to me than one which can do 30 miles on

Re: [Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen (was solar hydrogen)

2004-10-12 Thread Walt Patrick
Why do you not use ethanol instead or biodiesel if the truck is a diesel? Our primary interest is in converting wood waste into methanol. That involves generating H2 and CO, and being able to sweeten the mix in order to increase yield, hence our interest in ancillary ways to generate and use

Re: [Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen

2004-10-12 Thread Walt Patrick
Walt isn't being upfront about the system costs of a renewable system that can generate 30 miles per day of hydrogen. It's more than you will pay in fuel taxes in your lifetime. You're probably right, but so what? Everyone's situation is different, and therefore their options will

[Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen (was solar hydrogen)

2004-10-11 Thread Walt Patrick
upon a time we had a Chevy Nova that we considered operating on hydrogen. Assuming that we stored the H2 in a series of small scuba-like tanks, we figured we could get about thirty miles before the H2 ran out. Initially, that was disappointing, but then we got to figuring that so long as

[Biofuel] Handbuilt electrolyzers? [was: Solar Hydrogen]

2004-10-11 Thread Walt Patrick
The four-cylinder engine is tuned to run on hydrogen, which is produced by a hand-built electrolysis system mounted in the bed. For me, the most interesting part of the experiment involved the mobile electrolysis unit. Anyone have a handle on what the state-of-the-art is for mobile

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap oil

2004-10-01 Thread Walt Patrick
I just encountered two articles at my library that strengthens my belief that we are beginning to see the end of cheap oil NOW from how we've always known it. Good article with some interesting points, but I feel the need to quibble a bit. The problem is that oil _is_ cheap, even at $50 a

[biofuel] PSA - Oxygen source

2004-07-23 Thread Walt Patrick
One of the most interesting new developments to come down the pike in the past decade involves the use of ceramic membranes to separate out gases such as hydrogen and oxygen from gas streams. This process, called Pressure Swing Adsorption, allows oxygen to be separated from

Re: [biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-20 Thread Walt Patrick
At 02:42 PM 5/20/04 +0100, you wrote: Walt Have you looked at polyethene to ethanol reactors? Mark Nope. Tell us more :-) Walt Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up

Re: [biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-19 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:41 AM 5/19/04 +0100, you wrote: Walt Does you have any reference files I could look at please? Nothing that's not available on the net through google. with best wishes, Walt Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for

Re: [biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-18 Thread Walt Patrick
At 11:10 AM 5/18/04 -0400, Martin wrote: Walt, are there any legal problems in doing this since it is going to be patented? I think it's great though, please keep us updated on how it goes. The research was done using a Department of Energy grant, so my understanding is that there's

Re: [biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-16 Thread Walt Patrick
At 06:46 PM 5/15/04 -0600, Greg wrote: Is that number correct? I get No patents have matched your query for 20030158270. Sorry that I wasn't more clear. That's the patent application number; you have to search under Published Applications, not Issued Patents. Walt

[biofuel] Wood chipper report

2004-05-15 Thread Walt Patrick
Long-term readers will recall that Windward's biofuel work is focused on converting waste wood into methanol. One of the critical steps on that journey involves the need to convert forest cullings into a standardized feedstock. Late last fall we purchased a PTO mounted

[biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-15 Thread Walt Patrick
At 11:40 AM 5/15/04 +, you wrote: - hi walt. what do you want for the steam engine?? we want to run one as an adjunct to our 25hp boiler which runs our biodiesel plant and distillery.we would love to use an old timey steam motor to run a generator..we want a cogeneration segment as

[biofuel] Why methanol?

2004-03-14 Thread Walt Patrick
At 04:17 PM 3/14/04 +0900, Keith wrote: Anyway, a lot of more recent work has been going into new enzymes and new processes, with promising results so far. Walt Patrick gave us a run-down on this in previous messages. For what it's worth, our commitment to methanol comes from (1) our

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-03-02 Thread Walt Patrick
At 08:07 AM 3/2/04 -0500, Alan wrote: Walt Patrick wrote: I think you're falling into your own trap of seeing things according to a partisan agenda, but in a different, much broader, and much more important sense, that goes much further than the national concerns of some among

Re: [biofuel] Re: Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-24 Thread Walt Patrick
At 12:36 AM 2/24/04 +, you wrote: --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone lacking the stones to even sign his post. Please don't swagger around like some testosterone saturated teenager looking for trouble. Look at the email address if you

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-24 Thread Walt Patrick
At 02:33 AM 2/24/04 -0500, Allan wrote: I believe you mis-spelled Southerners. Or perhaps Confederates. Nope. Southron was and remains the term for a person who supported the Confederate States of America, as opposed to someone who just happened to live in the southeast. And don't

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-24 Thread Walt Patrick
At 04:50 AM 2/25/04 +0900, Keith wrote: Politicians, right and left, lie. That's hardly news, and hardly likely to change unless conditions render them irrelevant. That's why I'm here on this list, to glean information which might help further that goal. It's becoming quite evident that

Re: [biofuel] Don't any of you play poker? / was Moral Dilemna

2004-02-23 Thread Walt Patrick
At 06:37 PM 2/22/04 -0600, you wrote: Walt, The problem that I have with you analogies is that they do not include the UN. They had involvement. They were dealing with the situation. I have no doubt that the UN would have taken decisive action, just as soon as they got around to

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-02-23 Thread Walt Patrick
At 12:53 PM 2/23/04 +, someone lacking the stones to even sign his post wrote: I can see poker playin' Walt turning over command to his co-pilot, puttin' on his Stetson, stridin' past the bombadier to the hatch area, climbin' aboard the nuke and gettin' ready for judgement day.

[biofuel] Don't any of you play poker? / was Moral Dilemna

2004-02-22 Thread Walt Patrick
International diplomacy is a game of high stakes poker played with billion dollar chips and stacks of human lives. Saddam really enjoyed the prestige that came with playing in the high stakes game, and did everything he could to make the world think that he still had WMD, in

Re: [biofuel] Don't any of you play poker? / was Moral Dilemna

2004-02-22 Thread Walt Patrick
At 12:24 PM 2/22/04 -0600, fred wrote: Hey Walt, Your analogy was only partially correct. He held a fake gun and the judge said that the cop would shoot unless he proved it was a fake gun. He began to show that he had no bullets and the cop shot him anyway. Not true. The cop knew

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-22 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:05 AM 1/21/04 -0700, you wrote: Hey Walt, If you don't mind, I have a question. In an earlier post ( see below ), you talked about using electricity, in an organic solution, to generate H2 and CO. In the post you mention that you used sugar solution, have you tried it with

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-20 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:22 AM 1/19/04 -0800, Jeff wrote: I have been looking on how to make methanol out of wood. I have seen a couple of articles on how to make ethanol out of wood, but not methanol. If anybody could share some information on what would be involved and what it would take, please let me

[biofuel] Grey water alternative

2003-12-28 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:46 AM 12/28/03 -0500, Caroline wrote: Perhaps a better way would be to raise the low flush requirement/design to 2 gallons or even better offer a grey water option (that used more water, thus flushed the first time) to homeowners. Just a note on our experience with installing a

[biofuel] working on the methanol part

2003-12-01 Thread Walt Patrick
At 06:24 PM 12/1/03 +0900, Keith wrote: Main reason for us is that you can make ethanol yourself, but not methanol, or not easily anyway - not something a 3rd World villager can do. Just a quick note to say that we're committed to working on that part of the puzzle. Over

Re: [biofuel] New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-18 Thread Walt Patrick
At 10:14 AM 11/18/03 -0700, you wrote: Ethylene Oxide? Isn't that the stuff they used in fuel air bombs, because it has a tendency to spontaneously ignite when it reached the proper fuel/air ratio for combustion? Greg H. Sort of. As I recall, it's not that an air/EO mix

Re: [biofuel] New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-17 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:39 PM 11/17/03 +, Mike wrote: The acid/base catalysis used for biofuel production looks like 1940's chemistry - 55 gallon drums, KOH, etc. The polymer industry, specifically polymer polyols to make urethanes used this type of chemistry. I know this because I worked at one of the

Re: [biofuel] swimming in it

2003-10-27 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:39 PM 10/27/03 -0500, you wrote: Glycerine that is. And I am not really sure what to do with it. Have you looked into using it to make soap? Glycerine based soaps are translucent and are easy enough to make that stores carry kits so that kids can make their own soap at home. Walt

[biofuel] Handy alternative

2003-10-07 Thread Walt Patrick
At 01:10 PM 10/7/03 -0400, Martin wrote: It's just another way of creating hydrogen from water, while burning some carbon in the process creating CO2 What's the big deal? Doesn't have to be a big deal in order to serve as a handy alternative in some cases. Our focus here is

Re: [biofuel] Handy alternative

2003-10-07 Thread Walt Patrick
At 05:01 AM 10/8/03 +0900, Keith wrote: Hello Walt All fair enough, just want to comment on this bit: Please do :-) For my part, I'm sceptical about these claims, but I'm not really negative about it, though many are, free energy is almost a blasphemy to some. With just cause. It's a

Re: [biofuel] Handy alternative

2003-10-07 Thread Walt Patrick
At 04:28 PM 10/7/03 -0400, you wrote: Hi Walt I appreciate your friendly response :) My pleasure. I'm enjoying following along. An electrolysis cell can compress the effluent as well, but it requires more energy. Agreed. I think you'll find that this cell requires more energy if you're