Gary wrote:
Gandhi I've only got a passing familiarity with, even though he
seems to be referred to as the father of non-violent protest.
Maybe he was perfect and maybe his followers were never
incited to riot or to violence. If so, then in this case I'm wrong. I
hope I'm wrong. I'd like
On 15 Apr 2006, at 03:14, Keith Addison wrote:
Okay, let's take this recent chunk then, from Peter Solem:
Today on the University of California, Santa Cruz campus, an
organized group of student protestors succeded in shutting down the
campus job fair until the military recruiters were
No, I think this is an excellent case that
proves that if there is no violence or the
threat of violence then nothing gets accomplished.
Ahhh.., the old inside every peaceful marcher is a rock-throwing,
window-bashing, car-burning, cop-hating anarchist just itching to get out
theory.
Hi Gary,
Peaceful protests are seen by folks on the street. So there is a positive
effect. The media tends to downgrade the number of
protesters if it mentions them at all. If protests get really big, over
100,000 people, I can't see
how they can't be covered. If there is police action
Hi Gary,
Two Kennedys were killed. Bobby was a fiery politician who would've
shaken things up
too much. Some member(s) of the shadow gov decided he couldn't become
prez. He was well on his way when Sirhan Sirhan shot him in California. I
had seen Bobby
speak at the Univ of Washington,
Yo Gary,
I think your idea of totally
peaceful revolution is nice butunrealistic. Clashes of
people who have opposite strivings are
inevitable. Thoughtslead toemotion which in turn
action.. Opposite thinking leads to
oppossing emotions which easily can lead to fights.
Mobs can be incited to
Okay, let's take this in chunks.
Not okay:
Why not answer the rest of the question Gary? It went like this:
snippetysnippetysnip...
Snipping's supposed to remove previous irrelevant matter to save
space. But you're a compulsive snipper, and not to save space. Then
the chunks you're left with
I have to agreethat social change does not happen with peaceful protests. The people benefiting from the imbalance that causes peaceful protests won't let go so easily (especially when they pay someone to fight their battles).The fight ends up being between the only two forms of power that
I was in New York City on the second anniversary of the invasion in Iraq. There was a sea of people that stretched for as far as one could see. The estimates were around 80,000.80,000loud and angry protestors and it barely made the news!Mike"D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi
I have to agree that social change does not happen with peaceful protests.
Social change does not ONLY happen with peaceful protest. And
peaceful protest does most certainly happen.
The people benefiting from the imbalance that causes peaceful
protests won't let go so easily (especially when
Keith Addison wrote:
Okay, let's take this in chunks.
Not okay:
Why not answer the rest of the question Gary? It went like this:
snippetysnippetysnip...
Snipping's supposed to remove previous irrelevant matter to save
space. But you're a compulsive snipper, and not to save
Keith,Thanks for correcting my sentence, missing the word "only". Yep, peaceful protests do happen and I didn't articulate that very clearly. Kinda funny since I participate in them from time to time.MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have to agree that social change does not
Gary
Okay, let's take this in chunks.
Okay, let's take this recent chunk then, from Peter Solem:
Today on the University of California, Santa Cruz campus, an
organized group of student protestors succeded in shutting down the
campus job fair until the military recruiters were forced to
On 13 Apr 2006, at 10:18, D. Mindock wrote:
A revolution is what we need here. Peaceful, of course.
Well, that won't happen.
Would somebody PLEASE get me my orbiting nuke platform? I need to
make some changes here.
I guess we need
to
ask: what would Martin Luther King Jr or Ghandi do?
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he
wanted or you would have violence on your hands.
The man was not a saint but he was very good at what he did. That's
why he had to be killed.
And so that proves your point, there's no such thing as peaceful
protest, it's just a
Paul,
D.
I'm not being a naysayer, the conspiracy theory may have legs, but all
this creates many more questions for me...Reasonable doubt is exactly
what they would want to create
All this is circumstantial and we need hard evidence. Witnesses.
Got the witnesses, lots of them.
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