Hakan Falk a écrit :
(...)
WTC was the home for many foreign organizations and it was many
citizens from other countries in the building. How many of the victims
were actually real AMERICANS, at least before they died?
While I understand it's impossible to know what would have happened what
if, I do allow myself to ponder what the course of events may have been
if, GWB had chosen to continue what Clinton was doing in regards to
terrorist activities, instead of reversing course. When Clinton walked out
of the
Frantz,
I have looked at several lists and if you look at the one you
pointed to, it is some lack of definitions. If you look at from
country and citizenship as an example. It is Indian sites that
says the they had 43 victims, the English at 67 seems to
be quite common. I gave up and do not
Hakan Falk a écrit :
Frantz,
I have looked at several lists and if you look at the one you
pointed to, it is some lack of definitions. If you look at from
country and citizenship as an example. It is Indian sites that
says the they had 43 victims, the English at 67 seems to
be quite common. I
Hi Ryan
Keith wrote:
And there are people who demand to know: What's all this off-topic
political crap got to do with BIOFUELS???, which usually turns out
to be another way of saying they disagree with it and want it
censored.
Keith, I for one will put in my 2 cents and say quite honestly
Hi Chris
hi, keith.
i have my own 'issues' with the big enviro groups.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/projects/environment/index02.html
Environment, Inc.
http://counterpunch.org/donnelly05242005.html
Michael Donnelly:
May 24, 2005
Behind the Green(back) Curtain
Hi Ken
I am pretty sure that our thinkings on these issues are fairly well
in line with one another.
I think so too. Sorry If I've been putting you on the defensive, but
IMO it's important to get it right, especially in the details. I'm
not always quoting you directly, as with this, from
Hello Jerry
NOWHERE in Mr. Noam Chomsky post is mentioned that over 2600 AMERICANS lost
their lives and did so on AMERICAN soil!!
He was writing about the US invasion of Iraq, not about the attack on
the WTC. You don't think it's important how many innocent Iraqis have
been killed on Iraqi
todd,
you make an excellent point. i still remember how stunned i was when i first
heard how much feed/grain/meal goes into each unit of meat purchased at the
supermarket.
And none of it necessary, nor of any benefit compared with good
pasture. Cows thrive on grass, not on feed/grain/meal,
Hallo Keith, Friends,
Thursday, 07 July, 2005, 17:19:26, you wrote:
...snip...
You will notice that Keith, for instance, seems to offer solutions.
KA ... thanks for saying so! Though not always, I can be negative too
KA where necessary, but I do try to point to alternatives. More than
KA that
Frantz wrote: "USA don't allow dual citizenship"
I am a dual citizen of the USA and Switzerland.
As far as being citizen of the world,many of us in this forum have already expressed our agreement on that vision.A thread on that can be found in the archives.
MikeFrantz DESPREZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Niel,
First, If you call me "sir", I'll think your addressing my father.
Second, let me say that I only wish it was so easy to explain. I get a lot of "You voted for him". No, I did not vote for him. Putting all the blame squarely on the shoulders of the voters is blatantly oversimplified and
Greetings,
If I may chime in here, Please, once you discover the horrors that the
agribusiness way of raising animals is causing, buy 100% strictly grass fed
meat. For those of us that are fighting to build markets for our grass fed
meat, this would really help. The agribusiness guys are
Hallo Jerry,
Thursday, 07 July, 2005, 18:16:39, you wrote:
JT NOWHERE in Mr. Noam Chomsky post is mentioned that over 2600
JT AMERICANS lost their lives and did so on AMERICAN soil!!
JT IMO you would have to be a total moron to even think that the
JT terrorist would have been
Hallo Frantz,
The US does allow dual citizenship with conditions. Children born of
US citizens abroad may have dual citizenship in the case of US service
personnel at the very least. Jews may have dual citizenship no matter
where they are born is my understanding. I know folks who have German
Greetings,
First I would like to thank everyone that helped me last winter with my
research into Indura fabrics. The company has reversed their decision and
are now issuing 100% pure cotton uniforms again. My husband managed to
avoid having to wear those poisonous ones and I have now
Jerry Turner,
Pull your head out of your back socket son and grab some fresh air, at
least enough so as to start seeing straight instead of being asphyxiated
by your own stink.
Perhaps the reason why Mr. Chomsky doesn't mention September 11th and
doesn't play upon the lives lost is because
You're welcome.
Richard
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Hi Ryan
Keith wrote:
And there are people who demand to know: What's all this off-topic
political crap got to do with BIOFUELS???, which usually turns out
to be another way of saying they disagree with it and want it censored.
Keith, I
Kim
If more people bought our meat, then our processing costs could come
down and we can become more affordable, but only the consumer can make this
happen. Deciding not to eat meat as an answer to agribusiness, just puts
many sustainable farmers out of business, which is what the
Gustl Steiner-Zehender a écrit :
Hallo Frantz,
The US does allow dual citizenship with conditions. Children born of
US citizens abroad may have dual citizenship in the case of US service
personnel at the very least. Jews may have dual citizenship no matter
where they are born is my
Does anybody know where to start looking for empty
45 gallon oil drums in the UK (west midlands)
Thanks
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Okay,
I joined this list to talk about how to create run engines on biofuel, now
I find I'm bombarded with talk show chatter in my e-mail box? This debate
runs into our daily lives and affects our thoughts and pocketbooks
tremendously. However, it would be nice if we were respectful by not
I totally agree with Ken on this. I raise chicken and lamb on pasture. We
give only naturally raised grains to our chickens and rotate both onto fresh
pasture daily. If I could sell more, I could lower my prices! If bad
agribusiness makes you mad, don't blame your local farmer, blame Tyson,
"If YOU look at the information out there, you will find the basis for the war."
People in this forum have found it importantto address the effect of misinformation directed at us from the White House, defense department and corporate media which have been, by enlarge,the cause of statements
I believe you're agreeing with Kim's remarks to which I replied but, I agree
as well.
Jill Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I totally agree with Ken on this. I raise chicken and lamb on pasture. We
give only naturally raised grains to our chickens and rotate both onto fresh
pasture daily. If
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
If I may chime in here, Please, once you discover the horrors that the
agribusiness way of raising animals is causing, buy 100% strictly grass
fed meat.
I have a question I'd like to pose to those of you who are growing
grass fed cattle. What happens
Jerry Turner wrote:
NOWHERE in Mr. Noam Chomsky post is mentioned that over 2600 AMERICANS lost
their lives and did so on AMERICAN soil!!
This is a tired argument. How many terrorist attacks have occurred
in Canada? (Count them, it should tell you something important.) Has
it ever
Benladin and his lot that wreaked havoc upon NYC, not Iraq, stupid.
I'm not even sure that he knew about the attack, I saw the first
video he put out after 9/11 with the corrected voice over. He never
claimed responsibility for himself or his terror groups. He did say he
thought that America
Does anybody know where to start looking for
empty 45 gallon oil drums in the UK
(west midlands)
Local scrap yards or large garage workshops, they buy
oil in bulk and may sell you the barrels. Chris.
Wessex Ferret Club (http://www.wessexferretclub.co.uk)
--
No virus
Kim,
How do we know what is pasture fed, non-hormonal beef, and corporate farm
beef? I am in the process of quitting beef right now, mostly because of mad
cow. I have a friend who is director of an E Coli testing lab in Colorado
and the things he tells me makes me want to stay away. It
several clients who own dairy farms, and these people insist that
dairy cows must be fed some grain in order to produce high quality
milk. Not having any experience in this area, I have nothing to say
in response.
Most modern high yield milkers need some food/mineral supplements,
normally
Greetings Robert,
I do happen to know personally the people who have a legal raw milk dairy
in Texas and their cows are 100% grass fed. If your grass is up to snuff,
then there is no difference. What I have found is that it takes more time
and energy and a real learning curve to keep
Greetings,
Canada has had terrorist attacks, from its own people. Remember the
FLQ? They kidnapped the Prime Ministers best friend in an attempt to break
Canada into 2 countries. The emergency measures act is fully equal to the
patriot act. And yes, it has been implemented in my lifetime.
Jill,
Should you be able to rationalize within some degree of reason how Mr.
Turner's remarks were not due to lack of and disjointed reasoning, and
how the malodorous stink generated by such ill ferment is spread to the
four winds as seed to bespoil whatever fertile ground on which it may
Ryan said:
Would I need to go to a local farmer specifically, or can I buy it
in stores?
You can check this out. I stumbled across it earlier.
http://www.eatwild.com/products/index.html
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Gustl,
If we do not then our government and those supporting
its actions are no better than those who did the deed on 9/11.
It would seem we are worse still. They wanted revenge for something we did
long ago, we want money. Furthermore, they took something like 4 hours to
do their
Greetings,
Yes, 100% grass fed beef and lamb are only sold directlly by farmers. If
you go to www.eatwild.com like Keith suggested, you will find lots of
information and local listings of suppliers. Also, there are some
producers that are listed at www.localharvest.org A great place to
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
Canada has had terrorist attacks, from its own people. Remember the
FLQ? They kidnapped the Prime Ministers best friend in an attempt to
break Canada into 2 countries. The emergency measures act is fully
equal to the patriot act. And yes, it has been
Jill,
At 03:23 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
Okay,
I joined this list to talk about how to create run engines on biofuel, now
I find I'm bombarded with talk show chatter in my e-mail box? This debate
runs into our daily lives and affects our thoughts and pocketbooks
tremendously. However, it
1. Re: emissions (the skapegoat)
Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:59:22 +0100 (BST)
From: the skapegoat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] emissions
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
john owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
here's a tought
What will happen if the majority of the waste
No.
The same amount of CO2, is used by the oil producing plants, as they grow.
Greg H.
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 19:13
Subject: [Biofuel] emissions
here's a tought
What will happen if the
Well, Jill, as a Canadian, or should I say an individual who is from Canada
and from what I observe, I do not agree. I believe you are existing in a
country that has capitalized on the short term removal of the USSR as a
perceived world power, and has become pretty much what society had feared
Greetings to you bio-fuelers,
Greetings J., welcome,
I am new to this list serve and signed up hoping to find some
advice. I recently heard the end of the NPR (National Public Radio)
program that featured Mike Pelly.
The full sound file is linked from this previous message:
Ulp... Um, welcome new member Jill.
Well, it's a nice clear picture of the disconnect anyway, sheer
essence of mass cognitive dissonance. Totally fact-free but totally
confident too and I'll bet it's undentable. It couldn't have survived
this far if it wasn't undentable, in view of the glut
Greetings,
I don't disagree, but Canada does so much of the US's dirty work, that
anyone who is knowledgeable is going to tar Canada with the same
brush. Good examples of what I am saying is the software developed by
Canada for electronic tracking of persons and words and the latest nonsense
Live! From Boston, Massachusettes and the Boston Globe, it's
A look in the mirror for America
By Derrick Z. Jackson | July 8, 2005
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/08/a_look_in_the_mirror_for_america/
IN HIS INITIAL reaction yesterday to the London
Chris wrote: "Has anybody actually been convicted for being directly involved in the 9/11 attack..."
"Of the 120 terrorism cases recorded on Findlaw, the major information source for legal cases of note, the initial major charges leveled have resulted in only two actual terrorism convictions
Greetings Robert,
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just trade passports, then I could vote
against the nonsense that is going on in the states. Actually, when I was
in France back in the 1980s, everyone assumed I was American because my
French is so poor and All Canadians spoke french. At
"I do believe it was Erasmus that was the original citizen of the world, too bad his ideas didn't lay a bigger egg that the one Luther hatched."
Good point Kim.
We have been effected by (infected with) the legacy of both Luther and Calvin.
MAX WEBER ON RELIGION AND ECONOMIC
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings Robert,
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just trade passports, then I could vote
against the nonsense that is going on in the states.
I DO vote, Kim. For the first time in my life, during the last
election, I held my nose and voted for a Democrat! The
You end with this:
Give us arguments that haven't
already been dealt with multiple times in the list archives, or don't
give us any more arguments at all.
which was proceeded by this:
Don't try to dictate to them what
they should or shouldn't discuss here.
Anyway messages have subject
...struck a nerve did I. :)
Okay, mission accomplished :) :):)
Jerry Turner
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid
Jill,
Should you
Hello,
I just finished reading Friend Earthworm by George Sheffield Oliver. Is anyone
using these methods successfully today to raise poultry? It makes some sense
and would seem to keep costs low. I might give it a try myself after ramping up
biodiesel production. The cost structure must need
Jerry Turner,
Struck a nerve? Hardly. Just that this house doesn't cotton to fools
all that well.
Mission accomplished? So your intent is to lavishly spew ignorance and
stupidity? You don't have anything better to do with the one human
existance you were graciously given?
Go ahead. Knock
I just joined this list after I came across it while "googling" for
information on ethanol and biodiesel fueled vehicles.
One question that I was researching concerned the cost-effectiveness of E85
vs biodiesel fueled cars.The answer may be out there in Internet
land, but so far I haven't
Hello Bill
You end with this:
Give us arguments that haven't
already been dealt with multiple times in the list archives, or don't
give us any more arguments at all.
Yes.
which was proceeded by this:
Don't try to dictate to them what
they should or shouldn't discuss here.
Anyway
Jill,
I think your lengthy posting about the content of this list was
well-intentioned, but as a number of responses have indicated, problematic for
some of us.
Just a few things I wanted to point out.
Regarding your statement that "Baghdad, for the past 30 [1975-2005] years,
was THE
...struck a nerve did I. :)
Okay, mission accomplished :) :):)
Jerry Turner
No it's not. You made some very wild claims and six list members have
questioned you on them.
It says this in the List rules too: If someone questions you, don't
just ignore them. You should be prepared
Hello Bill:
Firstly, I apologize to the actual author, I simply cut and paste into a
file of important notes:
KOH is not as strong as NaOH -- use 1.4 times as much KOH (actually
1.4025 times). Titration is the same, just use a 0.1% KOH solution
instead of NaOH solution, and use 1 gm of KOH
hey everyone,
first and foremost thanks for everyone who uses this list. i have been learning more than i would have thought in a small amount of time because of the people on this list. and it seems that when ever i have a question there are others at the same point as me asking the same
Hello Ray, Bill
Hello Bill:
Firstly, I apologize to the actual author, I simply cut and paste
into a file of important notes:
That's okay, I'm the author. I'd have just given the url, so this is
better. Anyway, this is the url:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye
Make
Isn't the titration solution a 1% solution and not (one tenth of one
percent)?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 8, 2005 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Titrating with KOH
Hello Bill:
Firstly, I apologize to the actual author, I simply cut and paste
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I have read various estimates about the net fuel gain from the production
of ethanol from corn vs the production of biodiesel from soy. (I'm
aware that ethanol and biodiesel can be produced from other sources as well, but
corn and soy seem to be dominate in the US.)
Greetings,
The last election that I was able to vote in was in 1988. The last time I
contacted a Senator to complain about a policy being put in place, I was
told that this is not my country and that if I didn't like it I could go
back where I came from. I have 4 more years to go before I
Uhhh.Vincent,
A question about all those crap batches that i have sitting in
barrels, they have sat out in the open air and sun for about
a month or two and am wondering if they can just go down the
drain??
My hearing is a little off, right? You wouldn't pour barrels of veg
oil and
ryan,
if you want to eliminate meat from your diet, then you need to find another
way of getting the protein meat provides. there aren't many 'veggies' (at
least, as i understand the word) which contain much protein. the primary
non-animal protein sources are cereals/grains, potatoes, beans
Thanks Keith and Ray.
Bill Clark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Titrating with KOH
Hello Bill:
Firstly, I apologize to the actual author, I simply cut and paste into a
file of
"Google" on "vegetarian" and you'll find numerous sources of information on
how to get anhealthful diet.
I've been "vegetarian" for two and a half years now, although I have to
admit I occasionally eat fish (sustainable types), milk (organic) -- although I
usually use "soy" milk, eggs (free
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