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Hummers piling up in storage
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just a comment. yesterday i went to a local butcher and got a 5 kg buch of mutton and chicken tallow mixed. 1st of all i had a hard time making oil out of it, it took alot of energy and time, and the amount i got was very less. so i think if someone wants to make bd in bulk then uising tallow
The simple solution is to tax it to the hilt like they do in Europe.
But even the 5 dollars tax a gallon has not stopped the increase in car
ownership, we do have a good average mileage from cars now at about 35+
miles to the gallon. The average car here does less than 8000 miles a year
now
just a comment. yesterday i went to a local butcher and got a 5 kg buch of mutton and chicken tallow mixed. 1st of all i had a hard time making oil out of it, it took alot of energy and time, and the amount i got was very less. so i think if someone wants to make bd in bulk then uising tallow
Hi All,
I just finished processing a .5L test batch of some
really blackwvo. that titrated out at 8.5g/L above the standard
3.5g/L. I then put it through 4 washings. I let itsit and settle for
a couple of days butit stayed a bit murky and would not clear;
soI reprocessed it as per virgin
If you are talking about hybrids that use electricity the government
gets the fuel side tax but would have a rough time implementing a zap
tax for charging the vehicle but its not out of the question they may try.
Here in the UK we buy a licence to use our vehicles on public roads, I pay
about
I dont know the stuation in as an example i want to talk about the tax plans on biofuel in Turkey.
I dont know the tax rates in outher countries but we pay about 65 of 100 as tax for buying normal fuels. Because of this biodiesel production is a profitable production.
this causes an unfair
Hi John,
What are you paying for your raw materials? When I was making biodiesel
in Ireland two years ago methanol was €114 per 200 litres.
This worked out at roughly 11c per litre of biodiesel produced. The duty
payable per litre was 33c. I forget exactly what I paid for the sodium
hydroxide but
Hi folks I haven't started my production yet but I recently realized
that I wasn't sure what I was going to do about disposing of the left
over glycerine.
I live on a small plot on the local reservoir and I can't just dump it
or compost it .Any suggestions? what are you guy's doing with it? yes
i
Michael,
Are you speaking of what settles out of a transesterification? Or are
you speaking of the remaining glycerol after performing a free fatty
acid recovery on the same soup?
Todd Swearingen
Hi folks I haven't started my production yet but I recently realized
that I wasn't sure what I
Hello Michael,
I don't know what quantities you are going to be dealing with
but glycerine has thousands of uses from
a food and candy ingredient, soaps, hand and skin lotions, explosives etc.
If you can't use all your production, you may want to sell it locally as
it really shouldn't be thrown
Hi Andres,
You raised an interesting point below (on 3rd Oct, sorry for late reply)
about my assertion that there is currently no reliable evidence to
suggest that plants feel pain.
snip
I say wait a while, we'll find they do. Science advances slowly, with
many stumbles along the road, and
Bob,
Thanks!
Back on Nov. 18 Bob Allen wrote:
Howdy Tom, it doesn't seem to matter. I have preheated the oil before
addition of the methoxide, and added the methoxide to the oil before heating
the mixture- it works either way.
My usual routine is to turn on the heat and while
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
Hi Andres,
You raised an interesting point below (on 3rd Oct, sorry for late
reply)about my assertion that there is currently no reliable
evidence to suggest that plants feel pain.
snip
I say wait a while, we'll find they do. Science advances slowly,
with
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/1114_051114_biodiesel
.html?source=rss
Naah, nothing'll happen. Not here in Japan anyway, and not soon.
Unfortunately, interest in biodiesel in Japan is not higher than in
the U.S. and Europe.
That's putting it mildly. There's burgeoning
Hello Mike
I did not mean in the realm of discourse on this list; I meant that the
current US administration is dragging the US and a large part of the
world down with it.
I know, sorry, I used it for a different meaning. You reckon the US
needs a new list owner then?
Regards
Keith
Bust
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/25/content_3834995.htm
Xinhua - English
Carbon dioxide levels highest in 650,000 years: studies
www.chinaview.cn 2005-11-25 16:44:24
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 25 (Xinhuanet) -- With the first in-depth
analysis of the air bubbles trapped in the ice core of
There are major costs besides road maintenance and building, such as
health costs of pollution medical (National Health Service) and other
costs related to accidents, costs of policing. Back in the late 80's
Pollution Probe in Toronto published a study The Costs of the Car
which estimted that
Nah, what we need is fewer Mikes. I can't keep them all straight.
Besides, I suspect you stole the election for list owner by manipulating
the vote and the voters, and now you're dragging us all down in your
ill-conceived assualt on 'Merican values. Biofuels. Sustainable
farming. Community
Yeah! The we could give the oil industry the money the need to find
more oil.
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There are major costs besides road maintenance and building, such as
health costs of pollution medical (National Health Service) and other
costs related to accidents, costs of policing. Back
I burn it in a wood stove. The BD folks in Pittsboro NC have a aquatice
garden that cleanses it. I will be trying this. You can recover and/
evaporate the meth and then add acid until it's PH 7 and the compost it
in a closed system/drum.
Michael Luich wrote:
Hi folks I haven't started my
Thanks!
John Hayes wrote:
Mike Weaver wrote:
*Green chemistry: Biodiesel made with sugar catalyst*
Masakazu Toda, Atsushi Takagaki, Mai Okamura, Junko N. Kondo, Shigenobu
Hayashi, Kazunari Domen, Michikazu Hara
Nature 438, 178-178 (10 Nov 2005) Brief Communications
Yes, but it
On 11/27/05, dermot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a common argument put forward against vegetarianism. This
argument says that if it is shown sometime in the future that plants
feel pain then vegetarians will have to give up eating plants.
Not all vegetarians avoid meat because of animal
I just read the book Biodiesel Power (one of three Biodiesel books in my
local library) by Lyle Estill. Kind of entertaining, reading about
problems we all know intimately like used cubies and and dealing with
bureacracy in book format (as opposed to on a computer moniter).
Most disappointing was
Getting off-topic a bit...
Any concerns about consistently drinking distilled water? I've heard it
can leach minerals from the body. A friend of mine uses a water
distiller so I'd like to know more.
Kenji
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Anybody have info on freezing oil and biodiesel to remove wax?
I just tried freezing a cubie of used oil, and the top half seemed only
slightly less viscous and waxy than the lower half. Am I wrong here? Is
wax simply an inevitable state for frozen oil? I thought I read somewhere
that you freeze
Robert,
Do you plan any experiments in the near future?
Greg H.
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From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 19:37
Subject: hydrogen power
SNIP
I have built several electrolyzers
SNIP
Yes I have an idea of what you have
:a problem.
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From:
Andrew Leven
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:06
AM
Subject: [Biofuel] reprocessed
biodiesel
Hi All,
I just finished processing a .5L test
Great discussion threads. I find myself drawn in without restraint.
IMO, the largest problem facing us via government isn't reactive governing, its
waste (politically attractive) and vote buying (democracy).
While the case can be made for higher Government revenue requiremnts, it is
Greg and April wrote:
Robert,
Do you plan any experiments in the near future?
Greg H.
Things are very slow with my business right now, so I'm in let's not
spend any money mode. I've been having a chronic problem with
bogging and stalling off idle with my truck (which otherwise
Kenji James Fuse wrote:
Getting off-topic a bit...
Any concerns about consistently drinking distilled water? I've heard it
can leach minerals from the body. A friend of mine uses a water
distiller so I'd like to know more.
Kenji
Search the archives. It's in there. Short version is: If
a humorous rejoinder to are you a vegetarian because you like animals? no,
it's 'cause I hate
vegetables- I want to jerk them out of the ground, and tear them up and boil
them... : )
Ken Dunn wrote:
On 11/27/05, dermot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a common argument put forward against
Bring out the Attack Turnip.
bob allen wrote:
a humorous rejoinder to are you a vegetarian because you like animals? no,
it's 'cause I hate
vegetables- I want to jerk them out of the ground, and tear them up and boil
them... : )
Ken Dunn wrote:
On 11/27/05, dermot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mostly i mean what settles out of transesterification todd.
On 11/27/05, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael,Are you speaking of what settles out of a transesterification? Or areyou speaking of the remaining glycerol after performing a free fatty
acid recovery on the same soup?Todd
You're using the wrong metrics. The US government works perfectly
well. It transfers money from the poor to the wealthy, and quite well I
might add, so I don't buy your not efficient argument. Just look at the
recent energy bill. Look at the Halliburton contracts. This is a very
Hi Dermot,
I am paying 142 euro for a 200 liter drum. duty is 34 or 35c not exactly sure which. caustic is 16 per 25kg. I added water andelectricity I may have been off with 90c. But thecostis still pritty high.Im not getting free oil andI think the oil is going to go up with the demand from
Anybody have info on freezing oil and biodiesel to remove wax?
I just tried freezing a cubie of used oil, and the top half seemed only
slightly less viscous and waxy than the lower half. Am I wrong here? Is
wax simply an inevitable state for frozen oil? I thought I read somewhere
that you freeze
Hi folks I haven't started my production yet but I recently realized
that I wasn't sure what I was going to do about disposing of the left
over glycerine.
I live on a small plot on the local reservoir and I can't just dump it
or compost it .Any suggestions? what are you guy's doing with it? yes
i
Hi John,
if you use rapeseed oil as SVO will cost 75c/litre and conversion kit, check
out Rapeolium Adamstown Co. Wexford for supply
as far as government is concerned they have removed excise duty on this fuel as
test batch ;-)
and with collapse of the sugar beet would expect that more
Well, they're right, sort of. Switching to biofuels could cause a
humanitarian and environmental nightmare of such a scale that could
only be exceeded by the humanitarian and environmental nightmare that
staying addicted to petroleum fuels is already causing. Sort of like
arguing against walking
Thanks everyone, I'll take a look, Makes me fell a bit better about
doin this. I'm living in new england and the weather's turned and
without an warm spot to get started i'll have to wait until spring,
Mike LuichOn 11/27/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks I haven't started my
Hi ,
I have a really clean, clear looking liter sample
of finished biodiesel. The pH is 6. Is this ok or too low and if so what is a
remedy.
Andrew Leven
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Plants surely feel like humans and animals to a great exent. Experiments in greenhouses playing music have shown to produce much better qualtu flowers. I have also heard of experiments wherein a tree was fenced and protected and spoken to on a daily basis to shed its thorns on tthe bark and it did
Michael,
Treat the cocktail with phosphoric acid to recover the FFAs. Then
evaporate the methanol and recover it by condensing. That leaves the
precipitate fertilizer and crudely refined glycerol to condtend with.
The glycerol is a simple sugar and can be distributed with the graywater
from
Nah, what we need is fewer Mikes. I can't keep them all straight.
I have the same problem with wire coat hangers.
Besides, I suspect you stole the election for list owner by manipulating
the vote and the voters, and now you're dragging us all down in your
ill-conceived assualt on 'Merican
On 11/27/05, dermot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a common argument put forward against vegetarianism. This
argument says that if it is shown sometime in the future that plants
feel pain then vegetarians will have to give up eating plants.
So they eat vegetables because cabbages don't
We've discussed it before, by the way, Doug Woodard posted the
abstract on the 10th when Nature first published it.
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57829.html
[Biofuel] Another path to biodiesel
Thread linked at the bottom of the page.
Best
Keith
Thanks!
John
I just read the book Biodiesel Power (one of three Biodiesel books in my
local library) by Lyle Estill. Kind of entertaining, reading about
problems we all know intimately like used cubies and and dealing with
bureacracy in book format (as opposed to on a computer moniter).
Most disappointing was
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