Nah, what we need is fewer Mikes. I can't keep them all straight. Besides, I suspect you stole the election for list owner by manipulating the vote and the voters, and now you're dragging us all down in your ill-conceived assualt on 'Merican values. Biofuels. Sustainable farming. Community Develpoment. Poppycock.
Come over to the dark side, Keith. Be one of us. I'll help you get a consulting job as a shill for "Big Oil." You're a writer, picture the headlines: "Leading Biofuels Advocate Admits Problems with Alternative Fuels; Joins Exxon Mobil." Soon you'll have a big house in the suburbs, a Suburban and speaking engagements. C'mon.. -America Keith Addison wrote: >Hello Mike > > > >>I did not mean in the realm of discourse on this list; I meant that the >>current US administration is dragging the US and a large part of the >>world down with it. >> >> > >I know, sorry, I used it for a different meaning. You reckon the US >needs a new list owner then? > >Regards > >Keith > > > > >>Bust does not have a mandate from 48.5% of the populace (or whatever - >>tho' I think both elections were fishy), and last I checked the "The >>coalition of the willing" was small and had dwindled to tiny. >> >> >>Keith Addison wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Mike, >>>> >>>>Are they really? >>>> >>>>Then all the more reason to let them evidence their own stupidity and >>>>ignorance. >>>> >>>>There's a biblical verse that I've always been partial to. It's "My >>>>people perish for lack of knowledge." They did then (although it refers >>>>more towards spiritual knowledge) and they still do now. >>>> >>>>Let others display how patently little they know and oddly enough >>>>everyone becomes a little bit wiser.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Todd, if that were true only one time out of ten I'd still be >>>inclined to say the 10th time makes the other nine times worth it. >>>But I'd remind you of a couple of things, two list threads in >>>particular from a bit more than a year ago, I'm sure you'll remember >>>them: "Oil and Israel", and "Fahrenheit 9/11". Even if you don't >>>remember them, I sure as hell do. Far from the only examples to be >>>sure, but stark enough to make the point. >>> >>>Real-world communities and virtual ones are not the same, the same >>>behaviour can have very different results, and the same people can >>>behave very differently. In a virtual community, what's more likely >>>is that the Lowest Common Denominator factor will rule if it's >>>allowed to, and the list community itself becomes a little bit >>>dumber. Or a lot dumber. We've seen that enough times too. Not here. >>>It's highly probable that they'd take us with them. >>> >>>All best >>> >>>Keith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Todd Swearingen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>But they are taking us with them. >>>>> >>>>>Appal Energy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Keith, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>We've seen it plenty of times before, eh? What often happens next is >>>>>>>that they pretend it didn't happen and come back a month or two later >>>>>>>and do the same thing again, hit-and-run merchants. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>You're correct. But it takes all the fun out of it if nipped in the bud. >>>>>>Much more entertaining to watch them swing in the wind on a rope of >>>>>>their own choosing. >>>>>> >>>>>>Give 'em enough rope to hang themselves and most usually will. >>>>>> >>>>>>Todd Swearingen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Todd >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You could be right, I don't know. Maybe it's a genuine comment - what >>>>>>>do the latest polls say about how many Americans still believe Saddam >>>>>>>Hussein was linked to 9/11 and Al Qaeda and his WMD threatened the >>>>>>>US? How long ago did we totally trash all that here, three years ago >>>>>>>or was it four? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But I'm not concerned about what he thinks or what he believes, you >>>>>>>don't just simply ignore people who question what you've said. Or not >>>>>>>here anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We've seen it plenty of times before, eh? What often happens next is >>>>>>>that they pretend it didn't happen and come back a month or two later >>>>>>>and do the same thing again, hit-and-run merchants. Best put a stop >>>>>>>to it at the outset. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's an example, I'm not saying it applies to Michael. But he made a >>>>>>>statement, it's been questioned, he should either support his >>>>>>>statement or withdraw it. That's what he'd have to do if it was a >>>>>>>face-to-face discussion among a group of people rather than a virtual >>>>>>>group, and IMHO there shouldn't be any difference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Anyway, Thanksgiving, I hope you all had a good holiday - much to >>>>>>>give thanks for, and much to grieve over too. Much to be done if >>>>>>>there's not to be less of the first and more of the second this time >>>>>>>next year. My very best wishes for that, and everybody else's too I'm >>>>>>>sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>All best >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Keith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hey Keith, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just let him stew over his own statement and mis-beliefs. You see, >>>>>>>>people who make such remarks generally have nothing to back up their >>>>>>>>words. But their hope is that others will say nothing and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>just let their >> >> >>>>>>>>words stand, allowing a little more "doubt" to be spread >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>amongst the few >> >> >>>>>>>>gullible or uninformed people who might still remain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's guerrilla tactics at best, knowing full well that the armory has >>>>>>>>been empty for a very long time and that the last roll of hard tack was >>>>>>>>just washed down with stale water. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In this case, it's he who some sympathy should be extended towards. He >>>>>>>>knows a sinking, worm-ridden ship when he sees one. Unfortunately he's >>>>>>>>too proud to admit that he's been duped all along and still clings to >>>>>>>>some hope that if he keeps his eyes closed tight for long enough that >>>>>>>>reality will somehow be different. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>We should all wish him well with his folly on this holiday, as his rude >>>>>>>>awakening is inevitably just around the corner. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Todd Swearingen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Michael Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>And I feel sorry for anyone who believes this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Based on what, exactly? Anything more substantial than your opinion? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Other list members have questioned you too. A response with some >>>>>>>>>substance to it is required please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Keith Addison >>>>>>>>>Journey to Forever >>>>>>>>>KYOTO Pref., Japan >>>>>>>>>http://journeytoforever.org/ >>>>>>>>>Biofuel list owner >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11112.htm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Madness of war memo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>11/22/05 "The Mirror" -- -- PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV >>>>>>>>>>station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo >>>>>>>>>>reveals>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>><snip> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/