Hello Mike >I did not mean in the realm of discourse on this list; I meant that the >current US administration is dragging the US and a large part of the >world down with it.
I know, sorry, I used it for a different meaning. You reckon the US needs a new list owner then? Regards Keith >Bust does not have a mandate from 48.5% of the populace (or whatever - >tho' I think both elections were fishy), and last I checked the "The >coalition of the willing" was small and had dwindled to tiny. > > >Keith Addison wrote: > > >>Mike, > >> > >>Are they really? > >> > >>Then all the more reason to let them evidence their own stupidity and > >>ignorance. > >> > >>There's a biblical verse that I've always been partial to. It's "My > >>people perish for lack of knowledge." They did then (although it refers > >>more towards spiritual knowledge) and they still do now. > >> > >>Let others display how patently little they know and oddly enough > >>everyone becomes a little bit wiser.. > >> > >> > > > >Todd, if that were true only one time out of ten I'd still be > >inclined to say the 10th time makes the other nine times worth it. > >But I'd remind you of a couple of things, two list threads in > >particular from a bit more than a year ago, I'm sure you'll remember > >them: "Oil and Israel", and "Fahrenheit 9/11". Even if you don't > >remember them, I sure as hell do. Far from the only examples to be > >sure, but stark enough to make the point. > > > >Real-world communities and virtual ones are not the same, the same > >behaviour can have very different results, and the same people can > >behave very differently. In a virtual community, what's more likely > >is that the Lowest Common Denominator factor will rule if it's > >allowed to, and the list community itself becomes a little bit > >dumber. Or a lot dumber. We've seen that enough times too. Not here. > >It's highly probable that they'd take us with them. > > > >All best > > > >Keith > > > > > >>Todd Swearingen > >> > >> > >>>But they are taking us with them. > >>> > >>>Appal Energy wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Keith, > >>>> > >>>>>We've seen it plenty of times before, eh? What often happens next is > >>>>>that they pretend it didn't happen and come back a month or two later > >>>>>and do the same thing again, hit-and-run merchants. > >>>>> > >>>>You're correct. But it takes all the fun out of it if nipped in the bud. > >>>>Much more entertaining to watch them swing in the wind on a rope of > >>>>their own choosing. > >>>> > >>>>Give 'em enough rope to hang themselves and most usually will. > >>>> > >>>>Todd Swearingen > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hi Todd > >>>>> > >>>>>You could be right, I don't know. Maybe it's a genuine comment - what > >>>>>do the latest polls say about how many Americans still believe Saddam > >>>>>Hussein was linked to 9/11 and Al Qaeda and his WMD threatened the > >>>>>US? How long ago did we totally trash all that here, three years ago > >>>>>or was it four? > >>>>> > >>>>>But I'm not concerned about what he thinks or what he believes, you > >>>>>don't just simply ignore people who question what you've said. Or not > >>>>>here anyway. > >>>>> > >>>>>We've seen it plenty of times before, eh? What often happens next is > >>>>>that they pretend it didn't happen and come back a month or two later > >>>>>and do the same thing again, hit-and-run merchants. Best put a stop > >>>>>to it at the outset. > >>>>> > >>>>>It's an example, I'm not saying it applies to Michael. But he made a > >>>>>statement, it's been questioned, he should either support his > >>>>>statement or withdraw it. That's what he'd have to do if it was a > >>>>>face-to-face discussion among a group of people rather than a virtual > >>>>>group, and IMHO there shouldn't be any difference. > >>>>> > >>>>>Anyway, Thanksgiving, I hope you all had a good holiday - much to > >>>>>give thanks for, and much to grieve over too. Much to be done if > >>>>>there's not to be less of the first and more of the second this time > >>>>>next year. My very best wishes for that, and everybody else's too I'm > >>>>>sure. > >>>>> > >>>>>All best > >>>>> > >>>>>Keith > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hey Keith, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Just let him stew over his own statement and mis-beliefs. You see, > >>>>>>people who make such remarks generally have nothing to back up their > >>>>>>words. But their hope is that others will say nothing and >just let their > >>>>>>words stand, allowing a little more "doubt" to be spread >amongst the few > >>>>>>gullible or uninformed people who might still remain. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>It's guerrilla tactics at best, knowing full well that the armory has > >>>>>>been empty for a very long time and that the last roll of hard tack was > >>>>>>just washed down with stale water. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>In this case, it's he who some sympathy should be extended towards. He > >>>>>>knows a sinking, worm-ridden ship when he sees one. Unfortunately he's > >>>>>>too proud to admit that he's been duped all along and still clings to > >>>>>>some hope that if he keeps his eyes closed tight for long enough that > >>>>>>reality will somehow be different. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>We should all wish him well with his folly on this holiday, as his rude > >>>>>>awakening is inevitably just around the corner. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Todd Swearingen > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Michael Jones wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>And I feel sorry for anyone who believes this. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Based on what, exactly? Anything more substantial than your opinion? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Other list members have questioned you too. A response with some > >>>>>>>substance to it is required please. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Keith Addison > >>>>>>>Journey to Forever > >>>>>>>KYOTO Pref., Japan > >>>>>>>http://journeytoforever.org/ > >>>>>>>Biofuel list owner > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11112.htm > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Madness of war memo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>11/22/05 "The Mirror" -- -- PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV > >>>>>>>>station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo > >>>>>>>>reveals>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>><snip> _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
