Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-31 Thread Jim Leonard
Dan Chisarick wrote: > > Older drives use a mechanical switch (push-button), newer drives use a > beam of light. While I've never done it, I can't imagine it being harder > than connecting the wires that went to the mechanism to a toggle-switch... Since the only drives that I use to do this

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-31 Thread Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 07/28/2001 12:53:11 AM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Ah, no you don't! Just take your disk drive out and modify it to close the > circuit on the write-protect mechanism. I have one drive modified this way > specifica

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-28 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: >> >> Anyway, one thing was an Apple II copy of Ulitma IV. (Only seems to >> be missing the Ankh.) I tried the first disk out (the program disk) >> and it doesn't work. Even worse, the disks came write protected from >> the factory, so to re-

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-28 Thread Dan Chisarick
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas) > In a message dated 07/28/2001 12:53:11 AM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Ah, no you don't! Just take your disk drive out

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-28 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 07/28/2001 12:53:11 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Ah, no you don't! Just take your disk drive out and modify it to close the circuit on the write-protect mechanism. I have one drive modified this way specifically for this purpose. Don't cut a hole

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > Anyway, one thing was an Apple II copy of Ulitma IV. (Only seems to > be missing the Ankh.) I tried the first disk out (the program disk) > and it doesn't work. Even worse, the disks came write protected from > the factory, so to re-write the data, I'd have to cut not

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > Me, too. Although, as I keep telling you guys but I'll repeat for the > new subscribers, I'm not really a software collector. I just got > interested in it after seeing so much of it at the thrifts stores > while I'm out looking for Atari 2600 cartridges, etc. Odds ar

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard boldly stated: > >If the disk went bad and you copied the code back, I would consider that >"restoration", much like restoring a classic 300-yr-old painting. >But I'm very anal about this: It would have to be an IDENTICAL copy, bit for >bit, even with copy-protection intact -- NOT a

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Lee K. Seitz
C.E. Forman boldly stated: > >On a relevant tangent: Suppose you HAD a genuine original disk (with label >intact) and it went bad. So you recopied the code back onto the original >disk. At this point, can you honestly claim it's the true original anymore? >Is it worth more with the original (det

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > I may ask a third question: what determines if you have an original game or > not? I think we all agree that I have the original game if I have the > original floppies, but the question is (are?), do I have an original if > a) I have manual, box, everything complete, etc

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard
"C.E. Forman" wrote: > > > Here's a moral/ethical question I'd like to pose to the group: If you > have the > > original label but no disk, is it "valid" if you copy the original disk > from > > somewhere and just slap the label on? I know that you can only get the > label > > from RG in this c

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread C.E. Forman
> I may ask a third question: what determines if you have an original game or > not? I think we all agree that I have the original game if I have the > original floppies, but the question is (are?), do I have an original if > a) I have manual, box, everything complete, etc but no original floppies

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Pedro Quaresma
About Jim's original question, I agree. I would keep it safe, or frame it. In the very least, if I were to apply it to a floppy, it would have to be one exactly like the original. About the second question, I guess it's once again a Data Preservers vs Collectors thing. I'm with Chris, but I assu

Re: [SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread C.E. Forman
> Here's a moral/ethical question I'd like to pose to the group: If you have the > original label but no disk, is it "valid" if you copy the original disk from > somewhere and just slap the label on? I know that you can only get the label > from RG in this case, but since the disk itself isn't t

[SWCollect] Labels and value (was: Ultimas)

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 07/27/2001 2:49:39 AM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Tom, I think Jason's was handsigned too... > > But you probably know better, and as I've been stating so many wrong facts > lately... :) > >> > > Jason put his to