Jim Leonard stated:
Yep: http://www.mobygames.com/info/MobyScale Is this link not in the version
you have? If not, it may not be the most current.
Rather than try to dig up my own copy, I just searched on Google.
This link isn't indexed by Google, nor does it seem to have any pages
linking to
up to you to decide what to apply the scale to. As long as it isn't
misleading, do what you want.
Hugh
-Original Message-
From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:lkseitz;mail.hiwaay.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:27 PM
To: Software Collecting
Subject: [SWCollect] MobyScale question
Jim
1. Personally I never use [MS(T)]. A tear in the wrap exposes the package
to scuffing, shelf wear, oxygen, etc., just as if it were off completely
torn off. Hence the best rating I will use with the T modifier is NM.
(In other words, I use mint-sealed to mean no defects not only with the
Hugh Falk wrote:
My take:
- The circular hole is generally intentional and is not a defect in any way.
It would be classified as MS. In fact, that hole is a good indicator of
original shrinkwrap.
If it is a PERFECT circular (or oval) hole. An irregular one larger than 1cm
in diameter
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Quaresma
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 5:42 AM
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Subject: [SWCollect] Mobyscale
I apologize to bring this up here, as this was probably discussed about
2873468234 times before, but I have decided to move on with the times and
classify
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From: Jim Leonard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[SWCollect] MobyScale 1.0!
"C.E. Forman" wrote:
I wonder how you get through the day NOT supporting BM. ;-)
BM is optional, you said so yourself.
It looks awesome! And is now up on my site as well. Thanks Jim...and
thanks to all who helped make this possible.
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From: Jim Leonard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[SWCollect] MobyScale
"C.E. Forman" wrote:
I wonder how you get through the day NOT supporting BM. ;-)
BM is optional, you said so yourself. I choose not to use it. B-)
All BM jokes notwithstanding, here is loud trumpet fanfare MobyScale version
1.0! This is the version to run with; it's official. I'll be
That was it for me.
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From: Jim Leonard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [SWCollect] MobyScale 0.3.0 -- please review
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
3. The IM and MMC modifiers are used when grading an entire package,
although from the examples IM can be used as a separate "grade" when
there's no item of which to state the condition.
Uh, I don't understand what you mean by "IM can be used as a separate "grade"
Okay, you've convinced me. Makes sense.
I do have to say, though...
use BM when you know it because that condition affects the value to some
collectors.
[...]
I guess the point of BM (and why I support it)
[...]
Ultimately, you can ignore BM if you don't think you'll never need/use it.
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
Each grade can also have a modifier associated with it:
- Sealed (S): Sealed with original factory (or store) shrinkwrap or sticker.
- Compressed (C): Package has been crushed or compressed.
- Torn Wrap (T): Sealed package has tears in the shrinkwrap.
- Item
"C.E. Forman" wrote:
Looks great to me. No problem with the not-in-all-packages items, I can do
without and it'd be less confusing anyway.
Any last-minute changes, speak up now!
I have no further changes... anyone else?
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C.E. Forman boldly stated:
Also, an optional modifier we might consider adding is one for those =
rare items included in some, but not all, game packages, for example the =
lapel pin and Ral Partha order form in the first 5000 copies of =
Infocom's "BattleTech: The Crescent Hawk's Inception",
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a place for MMC.
Thoughts?
Hugh
-Original Message-
From: Jim Leonard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 6:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[SWCollect] MobyScale 0.2.8
Fresh and piping hot:
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C.E. Forman boldly stated:
Sold a guy a shrinked "Hitchhiker's Guide", which he proceeded to
open (the horror! The HORROR!!), and found there was no fluff
inside. Original shrink, had the sticker to prove it.
Just tell him the situation called for him to put on his
peril-sensitive sunglasses
Sorry; I thought this was implied, but we can't assume anything in defining
this. I have made the modifications and the scale now stands at version
0.2.6. When the scale document stops getting modified for a week or so, I'll
post it to the list again so that everyone has the most recent
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
:) I'm trying to stay away from the term "Mint" since it's so
overused/misused. Let's take a vote: Who here would like to see
"Factory-Sealed" on the scale be renamed to "Mint Sealed"? A yay or nay from
everyone will be enough.
Yay.
"C.E. Forman" wrote:
Actually, one more little nagging change? Could we eliminate the hyphen
altogether, making it "FP"? (Just so there's no chance of mix-up with "F".)
Either way works for me, though, LMK your thoughts.
I agree with that. Done (but I'll spare the list a resend until a
Shoppe pages, as it's easier to decipher "F-P/NM" than
"F/P/NM" when you're listing package and props using the abbreviated
format?
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From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:14 PM
Subject: [SWC
Yea -- a sealed item can be both mint or utterly destroyed. "Mint sealed" adds a
level of refinement to the grade.
Chris
Jim Leonard wrote:
"C.E. Forman" wrote:
Now that I think about it, if I were doing such a scale (and I've been
thinking about formalizing my personal scale for
I second Hugh's opinion.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: Vote (Was: Re: [SWCollect] MobyScale, version 0.2)
Yay.
Mint Sealed should be as close to perfect as possible. Anything less
(crushing
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
:) I'm trying to stay away from the term "Mint" since it's so
overused/misused. Let's take a vote: Who here would like to see
"Factory-Sealed" on the scale be renamed to "Mint Sealed"? A yay or nay from
everyone will be enough.
Yay.
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Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL
That's a very good point, and I'll change the wording of that for version
0.3.
Can I have your permission to quote sections of the above?
Of course.
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Here's an updated version of the Scale document, still a work in progress. The
most significant change was based on a suggestion from Tom Hlavendy and Lee and
others on the mailing list, which was
to change "VG+" to a more specific grade. I agreed with him, so Very Good Plus
(VG+) has been
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
The Official MobyGames Software Collectables Condition Grading Scale
Version 0.1
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Background:
another wildly overused the term "MINT!", etc. This lack of standardization
can lead to confusion
Chris: I made sure to describe Factory-Sealed to include original
store-sealed
packages as well, to cover early sealed Infocom games that never had
*factory*
seals. (Just out of curiousity, were there other publishers as well that
relied on the store to do initial wraps?)
Not to my
Since you're asking, I really think you shouldn't have two conditions
with such similar names. I think it will lead to confusion. Perhaps
they should be FS, NM, VG, G, Fine, and Poor instead. (VG+ becomes
VG, VG become G, G becomes Fine, and drop the Fair off F/P.)
This is a good point,
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