Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-09 Thread Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
> On 9 Aug 2017, at 07:29, Jonathan Hull wrote: > > Would it be possible to get a series of tutorials on how the systems that > make up Swift generally work? In other words, what are the pieces and how do > they fit together? Slava Pestov wrote a couple of articles last year:

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-09 Thread John McCall via swift-evolution
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:30 AM, Brent Royal-Gordon via swift-evolution > wrote: > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution >> wrote: >> >> Upfront costs *will* be higher. Not only do you have to believe that a >> change is good, you must develop a working group that incl

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-09 Thread Wallacy via swift-evolution
My 2c: Revisit: SE-0030 Property Behaviors Very cool feature, and will help implement new thinks after that! Including async and await maybe! Em ter, 8 de ago de 2017 às 13:23, Ted Kremenek via swift

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution
The project would definitely be well-served by having more documentation, and hopefully we’ll see that grow both incrementally and in spurts. Even writing tutorials, however, must be weighed against competing priorities — such as finishing the work for ABI stability. My hope is we can find a b

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution
Async / await is really spoiling me in Node.JS at the moment, you leave with shiver with anticipation!!! :) Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Aug 2017, at 06:41, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution > wrote: > > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Susan Cheng via swift-evolution >> wrote: >> >> is it ac

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Brent Royal-Gordon via swift-evolution
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution > wrote: > > Upfront costs *will* be higher. Not only do you have to believe that a change > is good, you must develop a working group that includes coders to create a > prototype without any guarantee that the change will pass must

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution
Would it be possible to get a series of tutorials on how the systems that make up Swift generally work? In other words, what are the pieces and how do they fit together? I think it would be useful even for people who aren’t directly implementing because they can have a better idea of how diffi

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Jean-Daniel via swift-evolution
> Le 9 août 2017 à 00:06, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution > a écrit : > > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Paul Cantrell via swift-evolution >> mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote: >> >> Perhaps I am too optimistic, and core team members correct me if I am >> speaking out of turn here, b

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Chris Lattner via swift-evolution
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Susan Cheng via swift-evolution > wrote: > > is it accept proposal for coroutine? > Just like the one i had proposed before: > https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/73 > Hi Susan, I’d love to see progres

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Susan Cheng via swift-evolution
is it accept proposal for coroutine? Just like the one i had proposed before: https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/73 2017-08-09 0:23 GMT+08:00 Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org>: > Hi everyone, > > The proposal phase for Swift 4 is now officially over, and the

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Paul Cantrell wrote: > > I imagine that the core team will assist in providing implementations for > proposals that are crucial to the progress of the language and/or highly > popular — regardless of whether the proposal was authored by the core team or > a comm

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Erica Sadun wrote: > >> >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Paul Cantrell via swift-evolution >> mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote: >> >> Perhaps I am too optimistic, and core team members correct me if I am >> speaking out of turn here, but… >> >> I imagine

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Chris Lattner via swift-evolution
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution > wrote: > >> I imagine that the core team will assist in providing implementations for >> proposals that are crucial to the progress of the language and/or highly >> popular — regardless of whether the proposal was authored by the

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Erica Sadun via swift-evolution
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Paul Cantrell via swift-evolution > wrote: > > Perhaps I am too optimistic, and core team members correct me if I am > speaking out of turn here, but… > > I imagine that the core team will assist in providing implementations for > proposals that are crucial to t

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Paul Cantrell via swift-evolution
Perhaps I am too optimistic, and core team members correct me if I am speaking out of turn here, but… I imagine that the core team will assist in providing implementations for proposals that are crucial to the progress of the language and/or highly popular — regardless of whether the proposal w

Re: [swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution
Thank you for the kind updates Ted. However I already feel the negative impact because of the last restriction. I also would like to point out that, personally I think until the swift-evolution is not moved to a forum this will only create a great wall between proposal authors and people that ar

[swift-evolution] Swift 5: start your engines

2017-08-08 Thread Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution
Hi everyone, The proposal phase for Swift 4 is now officially over, and the release is now in endgame engineering convergence for an expected release later this year. Swift 4 has turned out to be one of the highest quality, well-rounded releases of Swift, and I am grateful to everyone in the c