though I'm the opinion that anyone of us need to think about data
protection, security, etc... so the posts might be not that useless as
it seems for some list members :)
fully agreed,
and every ISP could be hit once and getting blamed not to take care about
dataprotection ...
Roger
I
Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, in the former GDR (DDR, East Germany), when they had elections,
people could use the polling booth to mark the ballot paper in privacy.
But most people choose not to - it looked too much as if they had
something to hide and might want to vote with
09:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, in the former GDR (DDR, East Germany), when they had elections,
people could use the polling booth to mark the ballot paper in
privacy.
But most people choose not to - it looked too
Am Mittwoch, den 08.10.2008, 03:55 -0700 schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin:
yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your
private communications.
Yihaaa, the *ng I don't have anything to hide-statement.
--
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Andre Timmermann
Nine Internet Solutions AG,
You're right!
Some (!) paranoia is not too bad.
Cheers
Günti
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rainer Duffner]
IRC Server dead ?
SNIP
Well, in the former GDR (DDR, East Germany), when they had elections, people
could use the polling
yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your
private communications.
don't be silly, just use it as any other public communication platform,
be it Gmail or internet forums. If you need to transport sensitive data, use
secure channels for it. If you need to communicate to few
Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb:
From: Andre Timmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Mittwoch, den 08.10.2008, 03:55 -0700 schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin:
yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your
private communications.
Yihaaa, the *ng I don't have anything
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
I think more people
Sinyagin
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software
(me, for example :-)
- Original Message
SwiNOG is for Network Operator discussions and nothing else. The last few
days have irritated me. Please keep such silly discussions off the email
list.
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at least it prooved the ML is still alive, and not so slow as some mentioned ;-
)
we got 3 days nanog feeling, who cares ?
if someone like an idling list.. we maybe could create [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
to make shure there is no accidentaly traffic setting this list to moderated
this would be
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
at least it prooved the ML is still alive, and not so slow as some mentioned ;-)
we got 3 days nanog feeling, who cares ?
if someone like an idling list.. we maybe could create [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
to make shure there is no accidentaly traffic setting this list
Boris Meyer wrote:
no one cares about security and I think swinog should care about security!
use IRC, install one of the thousands IRC clients available and ask your
security guru to open the port, or do it on your own ^^
You can connect via SSL for a little bit of enhanced security
Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb:
From: Martin Ebnoether [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All that is needed to take Skype down is an automatic windows
update of some thousand computers.
Remember last summer?
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070819
hey Venty, long time no see :)
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me,
for example :-)
- Original Message
12:54 -!- Irssi: Connecting to irc.subcult.ch [213.180.174.250] port 6667
12:54 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.subcult.ch established
12:54 !irc.subcult.ch *** Looking up your hostname...
12:54 !irc.subcult.ch *** Checking Ident
12:54 !irc.subcult.ch *** No Ident response
12:54 !irc.subcult.ch ***
so .. we have to be carefull what we buy ..
more difficult than buy something 1938 .. where you could be sued for
buying electronic parts which could enable you to hear other Radio
programms than göbbels-schnauze
never buy more than one cutter-knive at one time, or you could be a possi
ble
back to the orginal topic,
today the same again
[Tue.06:07] -irc.subcult.ch- *** Checking Ident
-
[Tue.06:07] -irc.subcult.ch- *** Found your hostname
and thats it .. stays there .. after 4 minutes the client disc. and retry to
connect.
will be shure in 30 minutes everything will be fine
On the Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:26:37AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin blubbered:
Hoi Stan!
All that is needed to take Skype down is an automatic windows
update of some thousand computers.
Remember last summer?
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070819
hey Venty, long time no see
I can't resist.
...if it collects any marketing stats, so what, everyone is doing that...
Only from the unknowledgeable that don't control Javascript (NoScript), flash
(etc.), cookies or 'stuff'. Therefore, you have skewed stats.
...There's nothing bad about companies knowing better what I
got to nazgul and it worked the first second,
opened an second irc client tried subcult .. timeout
Roger
Am 7 Oct 2008 um 12:59 hat Boris Meyer geschrieben:
12:54 -!- Irssi: Connecting to irc.subcult.ch [213.180.174.250] port 6667
12:54 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.subcult.ch established
Am 7.10.2008 9:32 Uhr, Marco Fretz schrieb:
Skype is like MSN Messenger, just another ugly overloaded communication
tool. if I have to choose between skype and MSN, it's MSN, because there
are a lot of opensource and freeware alternatives to the bad Live
Messenger from Microschrott, ah
Moin Roger
Nothing special happened the last few days, everything worked as usual.
irc.swinog.ch not reachable - you have any traceroute output?
irc.subcult.ch also worked fine - for ident-issue, give identd a chance ;)
For any questions ... /msg me in the ircnet now (you know my nick).
Dear All
irc.swinog.ch not reachable - you have any traceroute output?
As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX
is at the moment only reachable by its peers.
We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the
mean time eiher use another
PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at:
http://irc.subcult.ch
As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX
is at the moment only reachable by its peers.
We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the
mean time eiher use
: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at:
http://irc.subcult.ch
As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX
is at the moment only reachable by its peers.
We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here?
I think more people on this list have skype than IRC
client software (me, for example :-)
It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for
pretty much every
installing a P2P phose client just for chatting ?
IRC is basic, works very well even on very slow satelite link without causing
congestion.
And at least it doesnt depend on some thirdparty Services,the servers are
under our control.
Roger
Am 6 Oct 2008 um 16:15 hat Roman Hochuli geschrieben:
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here?
well, almost :)
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/
I think more people on this list have skype than IRC
client software (me, for example :-)
It's simple,
my grandmother in scheid is using one - its faster then the DSL there ;)
costs around 40 Bucks / month :)
astra2connect
Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb:
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here?
well, almost :)
English
ones.
Chris
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin
Sent: lundi, 6. octobre 2008 16:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
I think
I can never on monday :(
so I vote for the beer events to be on another weekday once ;)
and for a jabber room
(there are a lot of jabber servers that could host one maintained by
Swinog members)
Silvan
Marc Balmer schrieb:
* Silvan Gebhardt wrote:
I vote for a jabber chatroom ;)
let's
* on the Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:02:18AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
I think more people on this list have skype than IRC
client software (me, for example :-)
I don't. And I WON'T.
I've done too much cmputer security, and now
, 2008 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Boris Meyer wrote:
PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at:
http://irc.subcult.ch
since this recent DDoS related change I cannot reach any of the listed IRC
servers from hetzner.de space (AS24940
Salut, Roman,
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:15:47 +0200, Roman Hochuli wrote:
It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for
pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky.
Reason enough? ;)
Nah. IRC is ubiquitous, that's it. If you want something geeky,
it was about chat (plain text chat), not a conference call :-)
- Original Message
From: Tonnerre Lombard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 12:13:36 AM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Salut, Stanislav,
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:02:18
irc.swinog.ch is not reachable via bluewin
irc.subcult.ch telling me after connect checking ident .. found your hostname
.. and then stays like that
whats happen ?
Roger
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Hi Roger,
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 14:28 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
irc.swinog.ch is not reachable via bluewin
irc.subcult.ch telling me after connect checking ident .. found your hostname
.. and then stays like that
whats happen ?
Looks fine at the moment from this side of the
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