Hello,
As a provider, we have to respect the Internet
community, and not play such gamewith filtering.
As dns maintainers, I'm sure we are not rfcXXX
compliant if we create such dns's /dev/null entry
just for all user of Switzerland. We are simply not
authoritative for those domains, we can't
In the heise news article it says, that VIT (Verband Inside Telecom) is
gonna
make a letter available to all ISPs, which can then be sent to the judge.
Does anyone know, when/where this letter will be available?
I called them, they should call me back in a few... I'll keep you
informed...
However I believe with a press release, we can bring the discussion into
public, and this is one goal of SwiNOG, right? Not every member must be
necessarily 100% agree to the release. But regarding the topic, we have
a consensus. I think it's important that the public is aware, that
filtering
I called them (VIT), they should call me back in a few... I'll keep you
informed...
Well, they dont seems to be stressed by the problem, I called them back and
could not reach the concerned person. This person should call me back
ASAP (which may be monday...).
Have a nice weekend :-)
Well, they dont seems to be stressed by the problem, I called them back
and
could not reach the concerned person. This person should call me back
ASAP (which may be monday...).
ok, got news from VIT :
- they're working hard on it (they're in touch with different lawyers
etc..)
-
heise would be good for tech-people...
maybe sonntagszeitung (as proposed by andre) for non-techies in switzerland?
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:58:50 +0100
Viktor Steinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We (SIUG) also have direct contacts to journalists of WoZ
(WochenZeitung, leftish weekly
Guido Rudolphi wrote:
heise would be good for tech-people...
maybe sonntagszeitung (as proposed by andre) for non-techies in switzerland?
I suggest a joint press release of Swinog and SIUG, stating that we're
not agree and why. I can contribute with our press-mailing-list (appx
100
sounds good. if you need personal contacts at a couple of newspapers, let me know...
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:15:36 +0100
Fredy Kuenzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guido Rudolphi wrote:
heise would be good for tech-people...
maybe sonntagszeitung (as proposed by andre) for non-techies in
I suggest a joint press release of Swinog and SIUG, stating that we're
not agree and why. I can contribute with our press-mailing-list (appx
100 adresses).
Opinions?
You got a GO from me... :-)
Viktor
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I'm just wondering about the List of ISP's they use. It isn't complete at
all, maybe this will generate a news business case for providers not on
this list ;-)
Erich
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I'm just wondering about the List of ISP's they use. It isn't complete at
all, maybe this will generate a news business case for providers not on
this list ;-)
the source may be BAKOM/OFCOM
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:41:28 +0100
Pascal Gloor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm just wondering about the List of ISP's they use. It isn't complete at
all, maybe this will generate a news business case for providers not on
this list ;-)
the source may be BAKOM/OFCOM
it cann't be, bakom
On Thursday 12 December 2002 15:51, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
enter-adsl.ch
I think it must be a brainstorming list, because SolNet is listed on both
places. Anyway we won't complain ;-)
Erich
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we can hold back as well :)
peter
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-Original Message-
From: Erich Hohermuth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud
Mr de Verra from UVEK/BDA state that his departement is only responsible for
Ueberwachung/Surveillance.
He also suggested that if we do not agree with this order we should write
a template letter and send it to VD.
after that I called Christophe MARGUERT from the VD court.
He's not ready at all
Here you go :-)
It seems as if most of the providers will not obey (as you might have read in
the thread).
If you need the whole thread, you can read it under
http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog@swinog.ch/msg00847.html
Cheers,
Viktor
On Thursday 12 December 2002 17:35, Holger Bleich wrote:
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De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la
part de Thomas Kernen
Envoyé : jeudi, 12. décembre 2002 16:42
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Objet : Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud
2points:
- I'm maybe about to ask a very silly question
now on heise.de:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hob-12.12.02-000/
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Thomas Kernen wrote:
2points:
[...]
- Press release from SwiNOG, never liked the idea and still don't,
I'm a member of SwiNOG (or at least I consider myself as one) but I
might not agree with what is stated in the press release, remember
that we are not a legal association/company/whatever
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