Re: [swinog] Docsis/Cisco bug?

2003-10-29 Thread Pascal Gloor
sorry, I mistyped the OIDs in my mail. Tree .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.59.1 is still here (remote-query status) is .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.59.1.1 Tree .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.59.2 completly disapeared :-/ (CM values) is .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.59.1.2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AW: [swinog] Docsis/Cisco bug?

2003-10-29 Thread Roman Hochuli
Pascal this bug says: Remote-query unconfiguring does not work properly. Work around: no known work around at this time. I've noticed that, but I dont think its related as sh cable modem remote-query works perfectly Yes, I know, I have read the discription which obviously does not really

[swinog] Privacy International/Swiss Email Surveilance

2003-10-29 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Hi folks, I don't know if I missed any discussion on this, but I thought I'd post this out of interest: http://www.privacyinternational.org/survey/phr2003/countries/switzerland.htm paragraph 7: The new law also provides for the surveillance of e-mails, which are treated as every other

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam b locks

2003-10-29 Thread Peter A. Preuss
Nice try, but even if there is no legal obligation, I think a provider has to take every measure to protect the community and if they don't do so they may have to expect some unwanted reactions Regards Pap Am 29.10.2003 17:52 Uhr schrieb Zalaba, Mike unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (English text

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Fermin Sanchez
Hello Hm - pardon my asking, but: What (legal) reason should a dial-up user have to send mail over his own mail server? I don't see the problem in banning *dial-up*-ranges of providers which repeatedly fail to prevent spam from sometimes repeatedly the same sources. Regards Fermin

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Nik Hug
Hi Mike It remains after-noticing again that there (still) is NO legal obligation for Provider to prevent Spam. well but there is also no legal obligation to accept emails from anyone. It's our lone decision and within our duty g as a postmaster. A closing from whole IP rank for Mailverkehr

RE: [swinog] Privacy International/Swiss Email Surveilance

2003-10-29 Thread Lotek
hi there sure on cryptome i found already last year some information about Lawful Interception of Telecommunications Traffic and the requirements for delivery the emails to the bupo. http://cryptome.org/ch-ilets-regs.htm it would be nice to get some practice-home-story from an isp ;) cheers

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Peter Keel
* on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:27:12PM +0100, Fermin Sanchez wrote: Hm - pardon my asking, but: What (legal) reason should a dial-up user have to send mail over his own mail server? I don't see the problem in banning *dial-up*-ranges of providers which repeatedly fail to prevent spam from

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
Have not seen the small print saying ...you are not allowed to send direct e-mails by SMTP, TCP port 25, to other servers or recipients other then the ISP designated SMTP server... ;-) Tend to suggest the implementation of mac based machines (e.g. Nomadix Service Engine) for dial-up customers -

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
Feel free and rent your fixed IP address or even better some rack space and bandwidth at your favorite ISP (bet most of the peoples on this list have plenty...) - and you can perfectly run your private mail server - and even block SPAM coming in over 100Mb/1G Ethernet long before traveling the

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Andre Oppermann
Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: PS. Looking forward: When do we start implementing RMX (Reverse Mail Exchange) records in DNS, following the IETF proposal? And then: Don't add entries on your complete IP net block, just the designated SMTP servers please... RMX doesn't work in real life. -- Andre

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
Tend to agree, partially. If real life .eqs. world or real life .eqs. misconfigured RMX ... so the wrong people still can work aroud. Hm, better then RBL and nothing... -Kurt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Oppermann Sent:

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Markus Wild
Next use either connection limiting features (such as FreeBSD ipfw2) Just one word of caution on this one: I've had this activated on our mail server (IPFW2 in 4.x-STABLE) a couple of months ago, and it lead to very odd memory corruption issues (panics that _all_ looked like hardware problems,

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
Did I said Nomadix has the final solution and out of the box, readily available? Of course you are 100% right ;-)) Sorry, I missed a chapter in my letter. The real question: Why is readily available technology not implemented accordingly, and certain ISP do still provide those free dial-up? And

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseofSpam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Andre Oppermann
Markus Wild wrote: Next use either connection limiting features (such as FreeBSD ipfw2) Just one word of caution on this one: I've had this activated on our mail server (IPFW2 in 4.x-STABLE) a couple of months ago, and it lead to very odd memory corruption issues (panics that _all_

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Dani Kamm
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 19:48, Peter Keel wrote: * on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:27:12PM +0100, Fermin Sanchez wrote: Hm - pardon my asking, but: What (legal) reason should a dial-up user have to send mail over his own mail server? I don't see the problem in banning *dial-up*-ranges of

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receiptbecause of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Nik Hug
And, you don't have to look for another working SMTP server, when you're travelling around with your notebook. Lots of SMTP servers, for example mail.bluewin.ch, can only be accessed within their own ip ranges. there are a lot of email providers with SMTP-AUTH and/or SMTP-after-POP around. Not

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Andre Oppermann
Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: SMTP-AUTH (plain text and preferably CRAM-MD5), SMTPafterPOP or similar are highly encouraged for any SMTP server - otherwise another dial-up IP will be listed on the RBLs very soon and the value of your private server becomes very limited ;-) Again NO reason for

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
Andre, There are some friends arguing driving their own mail servers - of course on dial-up, ADSL or other broadband networks... This is the only point where SMTP-AUTH comes in - and has nothing to do with the subject - indeed. If someone desperately wants to connect his private mail server from

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:51:45PM +0100, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: PS. You don't seem to understand how SMTP works. Hehe, oh well... Twice in one hour from the same source. No further comment required. Trust him, he is a pro. :) -- :wq Claudio

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Roger Schmid
well trust those two guys ;-) cheers On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:51:45PM +0100, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: PS. You don't seem to understand how SMTP works. Hehe, oh well... Twice in one hour from the same source. No further comment required. Trust him, he is a pro. :) -- :wq

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam b locks

2003-10-29 Thread Erich Hohermuth
Mike, This could be a reaction from other ISP's because there was no answer from econophone for ABUSE complaints. Normaly this is the last resort (no ISP inlcude blocking rules just for fun ! ) to protect the own customers. On Wednesday 29 October 2003 17:52, Zalaba, Mike wrote: In last time

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Peter Keel
* on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:52:23PM +0100, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: and every SMTP port 25 traffic (or whatever required in the future) can perfectly be forwarded to a designated server WITHOUT a possibility for an intervention on the so called customer side. Look, I wouldn't want my

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Peter Keel
* on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:07:45PM +0100, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: Sorry, this is NO REASON to run a mail server behind a dial-up IP line. And if I don't feel like changing the SMTP-smarthost on my *NIX-Laptop _again_ ? Seegras -- Those who give up essential liberties for temporary

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Tobias Goeller
Hi Seegras, On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Peter Keel wrote: * on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:52:23PM +0100, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: and every SMTP port 25 traffic (or whatever required in the future) can perfectly be forwarded to a designated server WITHOUT a possibility for an intervention on

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Tobias Goeller
'llo again On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Peter Keel wrote: * on the Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:07:45PM +0100, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: Sorry, this is NO REASON to run a mail server behind a dial-up IP line. And if I don't feel like changing the SMTP-smarthost on my *NIX-Laptop _again_ ? well...