On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:47 PM Jarek Piórkowski
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> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 20:26, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> > I'm not arguing in favor of a change in language for key name. But
> the local broadly accepted classification terminology (preferably in
> English for consistency sake) for the
> On Dec 20, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> What I'm saying is highway=bundesstraße could be acceptable, but
> straße=bundestraße wouldn't be. Mostly so way type objects with highway=*
> are still potentially routable.
I sure wouldn’t want to be the person in charge of
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 20:26, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> > I'm not arguing in favor of a change in language for key name. But the
>> > local broadly accepted classification terminology (preferably in English
>> > for consistency sake) for the value.
>>
>> Why in English? Bundesstraße is a broadly
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:22 PM Jarek Piórkowski
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> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 20:16, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 6:57 PM Joseph Eisenberg <
> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make
> it a lot easier
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 20:16, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 6:57 PM Joseph Eisenberg
> wrote:
>> > Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make it a
>> > lot easier for OSM to become the Rosetta Stone of maps simply from ease of
>> > classification.
>>
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 6:57 PM Joseph Eisenberg
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> > Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make it a
> lot easier for OSM to become the Rosetta Stone of maps simply from ease of
> classification.
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> That would mean using "jalan=provinsi" instead of
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:22 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> While =primary refers to "A major highway linking large towns, in
> developed countries normally with 2 lanes. In areas with worse
> infrastructure road quality may be far worse"
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>> This info is probably worth recording,
>> but legal status should go into a separate tag.
>>
> Legal status of roads in the US isn't quite as clearcut as it is in the UK,
> where the highway=* tag is literally equal to that country's legal
> classification, plus private roads with significant
> Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make it a lot
> easier for OSM to become the Rosetta Stone of maps simply from ease of
> classification.
That would mean using "jalan=provinsi" instead of "highway=primary" in
Indonesia, so any global map service (like
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:41 PM Mateusz Konieczny
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> 20 Dec 2019, 23:04 by graemefi...@gmail.com:
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> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 19:18, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 20. Dec 2019, at 04:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> > that [/the/] (one & only) road servicing
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:07 AM Mateusz Konieczny
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> 20 Dec 2019, 01:25 by ba...@ursamundi.org:
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> So, for example, in the US, instead of motorway, trunk, primary,
> secondary, tertiary, perhaps something more like freeway, expressway,
> major/minor_principal (just having this would fix
+1 for "cargo_bike", including cargo tricycles and pedalled electric
bicycles and trikes.
On 12/20/19, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Florimond Berthoux wrote:
>> I’m really here just to know the english word.
>> In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for
>> cargo_bike if none
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 23:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> Thanks, Paul - I don't disagree with a word you said, except maybe the
> importance of road construction?
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It's complicated, but you understand the difference between a motorway (or
whatever
it is called where you are) and a dirt
Above it was said that the highway=trunk vs highway=primary
distinction is mostly for routing applications. But allowing a proper
rendering is also a main goal of the road tagging system.
While it's true that road class is useful for routing when there are
two alterate routes, a main reason to
sent from a phone
> On 20. Dec 2019, at 23:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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>> lanes=2
>> surface=unpaved
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> Thanks, Martin :-)
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> But would they still count as either =trunk or =primary?
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> While they're of high local importance, they're definitely not
> high-performance & they don't
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 08:53, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 22:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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>> But would they still count as either =trunk or =primary?
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>> While they're of high local importance, they're definitely not
>> high-performance & they don't link major
Just duty_free=yes would be good for a shop in town which offers tax-free
sales for international travelers.
But the tag ship=duty_free is probably fine for shops in the international
airport terminal which sell a mix of alcohol, perfume and other expensive
gifts.
Joseph
On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at
On 12/20/19 16:35, Hauke Stieler wrote:
> Using shop=duty_free would unfortunately remove possible existing tags
> like shop=fashion, therefore I hope for additional tags as I mentioned.
And I think this is enough reason to deprecate shop=duty_free in favor
of e.g. shop:duty_free=yes or similar.
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 22:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> But would they still count as either =trunk or =primary?
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> While they're of high local importance, they're definitely not
> high-performance & they don't link major population centres either?
>
You have just identified three
20 Dec 2019, 23:04 by graemefi...@gmail.com:
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> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 19:18, Martin Koppenhoefer <> dieterdre...@gmail.com>
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>> > that [/the/] (one & only) road
Hi Graeme,
unfortunately the situation is slightly different in Germany. Those
shops I meant are no duty-free shops in general. According to the German
customs [0] the refund of the taxes is also only possible under certain
conditions. As far as I understand it's not possible for me as German
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 00:02, Hauke Stieler wrote:
> Hi,
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> I recently found several stores (pharmacy, clothing store, jewelery and
> others) which offer "tax free shopping". For those of you who don't know
> it, this works as follows:
>
At least in Australia, & apparently internationally as
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 19:18, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 20. Dec 2019, at 04:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> > that [/the/] (one & only) road servicing an area is dirt, if you're
> lucky, 2 lanes wide, but is used constantly by heavy traffic (semi-trailers
> with 3 o4 4
Please revert the roundtrip wiki change, but let's put any other
wiki-changes on halt for a moment.
What we need to do is to find out how the roundtrip tag is being used (the
wiki is suposed to document the actual use, not what the use should be) and
in particular if there is a more-than sporadic
On 20/12/2019 20:41, ael wrote:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:02:50PM +, Dave F via Tagging wrote:
Hi
I've a carved stone plaque(?) that's fixed flush into the pavement. it's to
indicate the start/finish point of a long distance walk.
https://whatsdavedoing.com/cotswold-way-guide/#start
Two
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:02:50PM +, Dave F via Tagging wrote:
> Hi
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> I've a carved stone plaque(?) that's fixed flush into the pavement. it's to
> indicate the start/finish point of a long distance walk.
> https://whatsdavedoing.com/cotswold-way-guide/#start
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1 Is
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 18:03, Dave F via Tagging
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> 1 Is plaque the best name? Our Wiki quotes Wikipedia as it being vertical,
> but that seems a bit restrictive to me.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dplaque
>
The wiki actually says "typically attached to a wall,
Apologies for top-posting, but the interface in the browser does not enable me
to make any sense of multiple comments. Anyway here goes:
Zostera (eel-grass) grows below the tide line, so really is not an emergent
plant. Other things in your list of aquatic bed vegetation are also not usually
Hi
I've a carved stone plaque(?) that's fixed flush into the pavement. it's
to indicate the start/finish point of a long distance walk.
https://whatsdavedoing.com/cotswold-way-guide/#start
Two questions:
1 Is plaque the best name? Our Wiki quotes Wikipedia as it being
vertical, but that
In my opinion the options are:
- deprecate roundtrip in favour of 2 tags with a generally agreed naming
convention (best at this point)
- keep roundtrip and closed_loop with the wiki definition I did change
(relations must be updated accordingly)
I read many of you asked a revert, I just want to
Le 20.12.19 à 15:47, Cascafico Giovanni a écrit :
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> Il mer 18 dic 2019, 16:48 Tom Pfeifer ha scritto:
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> The 'box' would contain a full access point and not just the
> antenna, thus I'd prefer not to tag the
> antenna alone.
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> So how to tag the whole hardware?
> Shall
Il mer 18 dic 2019, 16:48 Tom Pfeifer ha scritto:
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> The 'box' would contain a full access point and not just the antenna, thus
> I'd prefer not to tag the
> antenna alone.
>
So how to tag the whole hardware? Shall I refer
to Key:communication:radio:repeater?
>
On 19/12/2019 22:48, Phake Nick wrote:
Merriam Webster and some other resources you have quoted are
dictionary for American English, not the variant of English used by
OSM. Posts by original author of the topic on the wiki talk page have
explained the meaning of the term in British English.
Hi,
I recently found several stores (pharmacy, clothing store, jewelery and
others) which offer "tax free shopping". For those of you who don't know
it, this works as follows:
You buy something and next to your normal receipt, you'll also get an
additional receipt with some tax information on
Florimond Berthoux wrote:
> I’m really here just to know the english word.
> In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for
> cargo_bike if none disapprove.
It's definitely a cargo bike in British English too.
Richard
(owner of a Circe Morpheus, which is a cargo bike of sorts:
Well, I don’t know what the french law say, but that’s not an issue,
we don’t tag the law ;)
I’m really here just to know the english word.
In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for
cargo_bike if none disapprove.
Le ven. 20 déc. 2019 à 10:42, Martin Koppenhoefer
a écrit :
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> in other words the Italian law doesn’t distinguish between cargo bikes and
> other bikes.
>
Looks like it.
But: most cargo bikes are not "bicycles" or "pedelecs" because they have
more powerful motors - they fall into the S-pedelec class of vehicles, with
number plates, insurance ecc. I
sent from a phone
> On 20. Dec 2019, at 09:42, Volker Schmidt wrote:
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> Just for information the size limits for bicycles in Italy (from Polizia di
> Stato):
in other words the Italian law doesn’t distinguish between cargo bikes and
other bikes. What about France?
Cheers Martin
sent from a phone
> On 20. Dec 2019, at 04:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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> that [/the/] (one & only) road servicing an area is dirt, if you're lucky, 2
> lanes wide, but is used constantly by heavy traffic (semi-trailers with 3 o4
> 4 trailers on the back).
>
> How do we tie that into
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 22:44, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> what’s the legal definition for this kind of bicycle in France? Are there
> minimum/maximum dimensions? Number of wheels?
>
Just for information the size limits for bicycles in Italy (from Polizia di
Stato
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