Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
If anyone wants to map beaver dams, I would suggest natural=beaver_dam since this would use a common key ("natural") rather than inventing a new one. -- Joseph Eisenberg On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:10 AM Tom Pfeifer wrote: > beaver_made = dam ? > > On 14.11.2020 04:02, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > On

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread stevea
Outstanding! Here we see Lucas well-separating "meaning spaces" apart at the same time he's both looking towards the future as he offers others to sensibly extend the table given the structure he has started it with. Bravo, sir. Good things grow like this, with all the right ingredients in th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread Lukas Richert
Hi, I was actually thinking of the type of battery, i.e. flywheel, LiOn, etc. Although it would probably also be interesting to figure out a tagging scheme to classify batteries by type, capacity etc. for the future. And it's true that :grid, :generator, and :battery as second namespaces are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread François Lacombe
Lukas, Le sam. 14 nov. 2020 à 21:00, Lukas Richert a écrit : > Hi François, > > I do actually like the word input for generator and have been thinking > that 'battery:origin' makes no sense either to specify the type of origin. > Keys such as 'electricity:grid:origin=*', 'electricity:generator:i

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Wiki created: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dthreshing_floor Please comment and/or edit accordingly. Às 17:53 de 12/11/2020, António Madeira via Tagging escreveu: Thank you, Joseph. If no one opposes, I'll do just that. Regards. Às 16:43 de 12/11/2020, Joseph Eisenberg e

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread stevea
Lukas: Yes, I agree it seems like you are on a good track to thinking through the structure (of electricity and how it might be better / best tagged) in a deeper way that will allow you to design a robust syntax (tagging) for electricity. However, whether this initial sketch is something that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread Lukas Richert
Hi François, I do actually like the word input for generator and have been thinking that 'battery:origin' makes no sense either to specify the type of origin. Keys such as 'electricity:grid:origin=*', 'electricity:generator:input=*', and 'electricity:battery:type=*' would be more distinct and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread Lukas Richert
Hi Paul, I'm not quite sure if I correctly understood what you meant, so correct/explain more if I get it wrong! My sole goal with the infrastructure part of the tagging is to specify if a connection exists sometimes, always or never. In the case of solar panels, even though they don't produc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread François Lacombe
Thank you Lukas for answers Le sam. 14 nov. 2020 à 17:56, Lukas Richert a écrit : > Hi François, > > the combination of electricity:grid=yes with either electricity:origin=* > or electricity:grid:origin=* would point to the origin being only about > financial flows as advertised on-the-ground. >

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-14 Thread Tom Pfeifer
beaver_made = dam ? On 14.11.2020 04:02, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 6:22 PM Adam Franco mailto:adamfra...@gmail.com>> wrote: * origination:natural=beavers Thanks for remembering this one. Around here, beavers are a significant sculpting force on the landscape. (And `ma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 17:24, Lukas Richert wrote: The possible values for any of these subkeys is then yes/backup/no (i.e. > electricity:battery=no), where *yes *means the device/grid is always > connected and it is usually (daily?) used. The term *backup* then means > that the device is only us

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread Lukas Richert
Hi Steve, I've been thinking more about this and I think the subkeys grid, generator and battery should cover any conceivable method (for now!) to acquire electricity. So a *grid* is any collection of multiple generators/batteries/substations/transformers, a *generator* is a device that local

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread Lukas Richert
Hi François, the combination of electricity:grid=yes with either electricity:origin=* or electricity:grid:origin=* would point to the origin being only about financial flows as advertised on-the-ground. For the purpose of filtering out amenities, e.g. charging stations, that only use 'green'

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - parking=street_side​

2020-11-14 Thread Alex
Hey all, voting has started for street_side parking: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking%3Dstreet_side We propose to introduce "street_side" as a new value for parking=* and parking:lane=*. It is intended for parking areas/bays, which are directly adjacent to the carriag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

2020-11-14 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Lukas Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 00:48, Lukas Richert a écrit : > electricity:generator:origin > > =solar > I didn't get in details what leads to this association between local supply with a

Re: [Tagging] Questions about public transport tagging

2020-11-14 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:railway%3Dstop   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstop   >Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:08 AM -06:00 from Alan Mackie >: I think under PTv2 the point you board/alight is meant to be marked as a platform even when it's just a pole in

Re: [Tagging] Questions about public transport tagging

2020-11-14 Thread Alan Mackie
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 22:54, ipswichmapper--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hello, I have quite a few questions about Public Transport related tagging > in Openstreetmap. > > My first question is about the "interval:conditional" & "opening_hours" > tag for bus routes. The "Bus

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Nov 2020, at 08:05, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > [canal areas] > There was never a standard way to tag this before I thought it was waterway=riverbank? Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-14 Thread Steve Doerr
On 12/11/2020 01:29, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: if a reservoir is thought to be larger and must have a dam on one side That's certainly not implicit in the use of the word in British English. Some reservoirs are formed by damming a river, but most are not like that. -- Steve -- This email has

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Nov 2020, at 04:05, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > Around here, beavers are a significant sculpting force on the landscape. > > (And `man_made=dam` is the best tagging that we have for their water control > structures, which are also often adjusted seasonally) frankly,

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-14 Thread stevea
Joseph, Kevin, Paul, Clifford, Martin, Peter, Tom, Brian, Andy, Graeme...everybody else here: I love these conversations, thank you. SteveA ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging