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> On 28. Jul 2020, at 19:54, Kevin Broderick wrote:
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> The homeowner now maintains the driveway (or sometimes more than one
> homeowner maintains a shared driveway), but the right-of-way remains open to
> the public, even beyond the regularly maintained driveway.
if you
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> On 28. Jul 2020, at 19:26, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
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> Uh... IIUC, "public" driveways are just fine. A driveway is a minor service
> road leading to a residential *or business* property. I've tagged plenty of
> things that aren't really "roads" (entrances to parking lots,
Re: the discussion of driveways that are public ways, there *are* a fair
number of such things in New England, particularly Vermont. I suspect there
may be other places with similar situations, but I'm not sure; Vermont has
a particular set of laws around town right-of-ways that have preserved
On 28/07/2020 03.15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Never use the driveway tag on public ways
Uh... IIUC, "public" driveways are just fine. A driveway is a minor
service road leading to a residential *or business* property. I've
tagged plenty of things that aren't really "roads" (entrances to
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 5:52 AM Martin Koppenhoefer
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> Am Di., 28. Juli 2020 um 11:35 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
> tagging@openstreetmap.org>:
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>> I treat these like this: the public part (if any) up to the property as
>> residential (eventually as service) and the
Am Di., 28. Juli 2020 um 11:35 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org>:
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> I treat these like this: the public part (if any) up to the property as
> residential (eventually as service) and the part on private grounds as
> service+driveway. Never use the driveway
28 Jul 2020, 09:15 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>> On 28. Jul 2020, at 07:13, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
>> wrote:
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>> As result, in initial stages something
>> used solely as a driveway to a single
>> house will be already named with
>> it's own street name.
>>
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> On 28. Jul 2020, at 07:13, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> wrote:
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> As result, in initial stages something
> used solely as a driveway to a single
> house will be already named with
> it's own street name.
I treat these like this: the public part (if any) up to the
28 Jul 2020, 06:47 by mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com:
> On 27/07/2020 17.59, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
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>> Jul 27, 2020, 21:55 by r...@senecass.com:
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>>> I assume if the highway has no name, it'd be highway=service, but if
>>> it has a county name, like "Lost Gulch Road" too, wouldn't
On 27/07/2020 17.59, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
Jul 27, 2020, 21:55 by r...@senecass.com:
I assume if the highway has no name, it'd be highway=service, but if
it has a county name, like "Lost Gulch Road" too, wouldn't it then be
highway=residential? Is there a difference if it's
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:38 PM brad wrote:
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> I'm in central Colorado, & around here, I agree, tracktype is not
> useful, the tracks here are mostly solid, grade 2 or 3, but could be a
> high clearance, or 4wd road due to rocks and ledges.
> However, smoothness could, and should be
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:07 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:56 PM Rob Savoye wrote:
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>> On 7/27/20 1:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> >> highway=track appears to be incorrect here (but maybe still correct
>> >> if it is leading to only vacation huts)
>> >> these
On 7/27/20 11:19 AM, Rob Savoye wrote:
On 7/27/20 11:00 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I'd go with highway=track and tracktype=*, surface=* and smoothness=*
tags as necessary. Given how inconsistent the 3 and especially 4 digit
US forest service roads tend to be, I'd expect tracktype and smoothness
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:56 PM Rob Savoye wrote:
> On 7/27/20 1:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >> highway=track appears to be incorrect here (but maybe still correct
> >> if it is leading to only vacation huts)
> >> these would be highway=service not track.
>
> I assume if the highway
Jul 27, 2020, 21:55 by r...@senecass.com:
> On 7/27/20 1:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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>>> highway=track appears to be incorrect here (but maybe still correct
>>> if it is leading to only vacation huts)
>>> these would be highway=service not track.
>>>
>
> I assume if the highway has no
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> On 27. Jul 2020, at 21:56, Rob Savoye wrote:
>
> I assume if the highway has no name, it'd be highway=service, but if
> it has a county name, like "Lost Gulch Road" too, wouldn't it then be
> highway=residential?
that’s how I would see it as well
Cheers Martin
On 7/27/20 1:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> highway=track appears to be incorrect here (but maybe still correct
>> if it is leading to only vacation huts)
>> these would be highway=service not track.
I assume if the highway has no name, it'd be highway=service, but if
it has a county
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> On 27. Jul 2020, at 17:20, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> wrote:
>
> highway=track appears to be incorrect here (but may be still correct if it is
> leading to
> only vacation huts)
these would be highway=service not track.
Cheers Martin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:21 PM Rob Savoye wrote:
> Personally though, what the USFS uses to determine that difference
> doesn't seem consistent, and over many years, the road conditions change
> drastically due to erosion. I prefer to go there in a high-clearance
> vehicle or UTV and decide
On 7/27/20 11:00 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> I'd go with highway=track and tracktype=*, surface=* and smoothness=*
> tags as necessary. Given how inconsistent the 3 and especially 4 digit
> US forest service roads tend to be, I'd expect tracktype and smoothness
> are underutilized despite their
On 7/27/20 10:10 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> 3 and 4 digit forest service roads? They're there exclusively there for
> the benefit of forestry (namely logging, replanting and fire
> suppression). If they happen to help someone else get where they're
> going, great, but that's not what they're
I'd go with highway=track and tracktype=*, surface=* and smoothness=* tags
as necessary. Given how inconsistent the 3 and especially 4 digit US
forest service roads tend to be, I'd expect tracktype and smoothness are
underutilized despite their relative importance on those roads.
A big hint:
On 7/27/20 9:18 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> highway=track appears to be incorrect here (but may be still correct if
> it is leading to only vacation huts)
It's a residential "track" to the vacation houses, often usually only
used in the summer or for ski trips. After the last
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:18 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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>
>
> Date: Jul 27, 2020, 15:54
> From: ba...@ursamundi.org
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] narrow=yes, vs lanes=1, vs width
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:37 AM Rob
Date: Jul 27, 2020, 15:54
From: ba...@ursamundi.org
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] narrow=yes, vs lanes=1, vs width
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:37 AM Rob Savoye <> r...@senecass.com> > wrote:
>
>> The question is how to tag the change in the road. Usually it
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