Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Oct 2020, at 17:40, Rob Savoye wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure on the best tagging other than maybe parking=yes and > access=emergency is appropriate these really aren’t parking areas, nobody parks there, and you may not, they are rather the opposite, no parking

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Rob Savoye
On 10/28/20 8:28 AM, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > Apologies for bringing dedicated reserved parking into the thread since > that is the only experience or interpretation I had. I think parking is > a worthwhile tag and I'd use emergency=parking for that, but let's get > back to your topic since it

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Jonathon Rossi
Apologies for bringing dedicated reserved parking into the thread since that is the only experience or interpretation I had. I think parking is a worthwhile tag and I'd use emergency=parking for that, but let's get back to your topic since it sounds more complex. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:34 PM

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 12:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > these areas are usually not access=no, there will be no parking / stopping > signs, but otherwise these are "normal" areas where other activities (like > walking, playing with a ball, etc.) will take place. Think of it as part of > the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 28. Okt. 2020 um 12:35 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > access=no should be enough, if parking searcher is not handling > access=no/access=private > it is broken anyway > these areas are usually not access=no, there will be no parking / stopping

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
access=no should be enough, if parking searcher is not handling access=no/access=private it is broken anyway Oct 28, 2020, 09:19 by lrich...@posteo.de: > > I think here it would better to use the primary name space of emergency, > similar to disused/abandoned, so that routers/data

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I that case amenity=parking would not fit. I thought that "areas set aside for parking by emergency vehicles" would be parking with special restrictions (and some of them exist, for example hospitals or healthcare locations may have dedicated parking spaces or entire parking lots reserved for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Oct 2020, at 03:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks, Supa - it's not a concept that I've ever heard of in Australia! maybe you don’t signpost these? Every country has fire regulations for buildings which include guaranteeing accessibility for fire fighters in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Supaplex
z-top-employer<https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/pd/de/index/schutz_u_rettung_zuerich/medien/medienmitteilungen_-berichte/2020/februar/srz_erneut_als_einzigeverwaltungmittopemployerlabelausgezeic.html> > Von: Supaplex > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2020 00:40 > An: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Supaplex
"parking" should not be used for this, because in many cases these areas have nothing in common with a parking lot. This meadow, for example, is explicitly a rescue area, but definitely not a parking lot: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/503246160 (and I think, by the way, that in case of an

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Lukas Richert
I think here it would better to use the primary name space of emergency, similar to disused/abandoned, so that routers/data providers that don't consider this tag won't lead people to park there. On 28/10/2020 05:21, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 28, 2020, 03:22 by

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Tod Fitch
Sounds line what are signed as “fire lanes” in the United States. -- Sent from my phone, please forgive my brevity. > On Tuesday, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:59 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex (mailto:supap...@riseup.net)>

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread SRZ
richte/2020/februar/srz_erneut_als_einzigeverwaltungmittopemployerlabelausgezeic.html> Von: Supaplex Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2020 00:40 An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency We (or Christian) are talking about areas that mus

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Oct 28, 2020, 03:22 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 13:20, Jonathon Rossi <> j...@jonorossi.com> > wrote: > >> We've got emergency=landing_site for helicopters, maybe just >> emergency=parking? >> > > I like that, areas set aside for parking by emergency vehicles.  >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 13:20, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > We've got emergency=landing_site for helicopters, maybe just > emergency=parking? > I like that, areas set aside for parking by emergency vehicles. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:02 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex wrote: > >> How about *"emergency = rescue_area"* (very rarely in use)? I agree that >> landuse should not be used in this case, but we have "emergency" for this. >> > As I say, I've never

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex wrote: > We (or Christian) are talking about areas that must be kept free, > especially near buildings, so that fire brigade vehicles can stand and work > there in case of an emergency. > Thanks, Supa - it's not a concept that I've ever heard of in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Supaplex
We (or Christian) are talking about areas that must be kept free, especially near buildings, so that fire brigade vehicles can stand and work there in case of an emergency. For example, it is not allowed to park there, no objects may be placed there etc. In German-speaking countries it is very

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Robert Delmenico
I'm not sure what you're referring to but I'll put some options here to discuss: Fire districts: used for declaring total for bans in Australia https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/find-your-fire-district Neighbourhood safer places in Victoria - where you can go as a last resort in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Christian On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:35, Nüssli Christian (SRZ) < christian.nues...@zuerich.ch> wrote: > I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas. > That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for > emergency vehicles. > Sorry, but what do

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Oct 2020, at 09:35, Nüssli Christian > wrote: > I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas. > That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for > emergency vehicles. > > I found quite a few that are tagged as

[Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread SRZ
Hi all, I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas. That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for emergency vehicles. I found quite a few that are tagged as landuse=military which is in my opinion - the incorrect way. I would like to propose