Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 11.06.2013 16:05, fly wrote: Am 11.06.2013 15:00, schrieb Greg Troxel: fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: Having been away from this for a bit, I would propose: Add a landuse=reservoir_protection (or some other name, not in use) to be for the landuse of a parcel that

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-19 Thread René Kirchhoff
How do we go from here? Can someone write a summary? Could someone please state the results in the wiki? Thank you. Wie geht es nun weiter? Kann jemand eine Zusammenfassung schreiben? Könnte bitte jemand die Ergebnisse im Wiki dokumentieren? Vielen Dank. Gruß René

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 20.06.2013 00:22, René Kirchhoff wrote: Could someone please state the results in the wiki? I have already un-deprecated the tag on the wiki two weeks ago. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/20 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, On 20.06.2013 00:22, René Kirchhoff wrote: Could someone please state the results in the wiki? I have already un-deprecated the tag on the wiki two weeks ago. I had shortly after set the tag status from abandoned to approved, but someone

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-11 Thread Greg Troxel
fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: Having been away from this for a bit, I would propose: Add a landuse=reservoir_protection (or some other name, not in use) to be for the landuse of a parcel that is used for containing a reservoir and protection zones. (I have an

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-11 Thread fly
Am 11.06.2013 15:00, schrieb Greg Troxel: fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: Having been away from this for a bit, I would propose: Add a landuse=reservoir_protection (or some other name, not in use) to be for the landuse of a parcel that is used for containing a

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/11 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com This is perhaps not really the right place to discuss, but I think boundary=protected_area is off. The basic issue is that we (I) are trying to denote landuse, not boundary. Rendering the inside of a boundary as an area just seems incorrect to me;

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-10 Thread fly
Am 08.06.2013 23:07, schrieb Greg Troxel: fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: But how to we proceed ? If we agree that landuse=reservoir should be used for the whole area. Do we need a temporary tag or adding water=reservoir to all of them? Only simple case are where a water=reservoir

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
This approach sounds useful. Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: But how to we proceed ? If we agree that landuse=reservoir should be used for the whole area. Do we need a temporary tag or adding water=reservoir to all of them? Only simple case are

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: I'd rather prefer to have the water protection as a different tag then landuse, something like protected_area, because my guess is that reservoir protection is not necessarily the only or main landuse of any such area with obligations to

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-08 Thread fly
Am 07.06.2013 15:49, schrieb Greg Troxel: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2013/6/6 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com We have gotten several notes reported from craigslist users saying this lake is missing from the map but I think it turns out that craigslist is not

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-08 Thread Greg Troxel
fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: But how to we proceed ? If we agree that landuse=reservoir should be used for the whole area. Do we need a temporary tag or adding water=reservoir to all of them? Only simple case are where a water=reservoir is already tagged (either on the same

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/8 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com Having been away from this for a bit, I would propose: Add a landuse=reservoir_protection (or some other name, not in use) to be for the landuse of a parcel that is used for containing a reservoir and protection zones. (I have an attitude that

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-08 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: But how to we proceed ? If we agree that landuse=reservoir should be used for the whole area. Do we need a temporary tag or adding water=reservoir to all of them? Only simple

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/6 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com Last but not least my question still remains. Why was it just set to abandoned without any prior discussion on this list ? Interestingly this seems to be a case of fiddling by admin, as the user setting this to abandoned is a wiki admin according to

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/7 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com 2013/6/6 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com Last but not least my question still remains. Why was it just set to abandoned without any prior discussion on this list ? Interestingly this seems to be a case of fiddling by admin, as the user

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2013/6/6 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com We have gotten several notes reported from craigslist users saying this lake is missing from the map but I think it turns out that craigslist is not rendering landuse=reservoir so unless lakes have

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread René Kirchhoff
I want to call a few facts in mind: - We have an old attribute landuse = reservoir. This is very much in use. - We have a proposal Water detail. This was approved in voting by a large majority. This proposal includes: waterway=riverbank (replaced by natural=water + water=river)

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 06.06.2013 23:55, fly wrote: We should use both landuse and water. The first for the whole area and the later for the water area. [...] Better use boolean (e.g. intermittent=yes/no). Maybe editors should warn or silently change these tags. Last but not least my question still remains.

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de writes: Because the Water details proposal¹ included the deprecation. It was even mentioned on this list that the proposal included deprecation - although learning which tags exactly were proposed for deprecation required clicking the wiki link iirc. Still,

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread fly
Am 07.06.2013 16:20, schrieb René Kirchhoff: I want to call a few facts in mind: - We have an old attribute landuse = reservoir. This is very much in use. - We have a proposal Water detail. This was approved in voting by a large majority. 16:3 is a poor result for voting activity This

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-07 Thread fly
Am 07.06.2013 15:11, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/6/7 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com 2013/6/6 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com Last but not least my question still remains. Why was it just set

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/6 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com The problem with landuse=reservoir is that often there is a situation where there is a parcel (legal unit of land under one ownership) that cotains some dry land, often wooded, and a reservoir (water). The purpose of the land is 1) to contain the

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/6/6 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com The problem with landuse=reservoir is that often there is a situation where there is a parcel (legal unit of land under one ownership) that cotains some dry land, often

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/6 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com We have gotten several notes reported from craigslist users saying this lake is missing from the map but I think it turns out that craigslist is not rendering landuse=reservoir so unless lakes have natural=water they don't show up on the CL maps.

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-06 Thread fly
Am 06.06.2013 18:39, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/6/6 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com We have gotten several notes reported from craigslist users saying this lake is missing from the map but I think it turns out that craigslist is not

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-05 Thread Greg Troxel
fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: When was landuse=reservoir [1] deprecated ? There was only little discussion on tagging@ about water=* [2][3]. Now we have to different uses which do not fit together (eg, water=lake;intermittent ?). Anyway landuse=reservoir was never deprecated and

[Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-03 Thread fly
Hey When was landuse=reservoir [1] deprecated ? There was only little discussion on tagging@ about water=* [2][3]. Now we have to different uses which do not fit together (eg, water=lake;intermittent ?). Anyway landuse=reservoir was never deprecated and has 20+ uses and might not be exact