Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

> On May 26, 2018, at 6:09 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > > > then have service > > be for "place you can drive that is not a legal road". But you still have service=parking_aisle for car parks, & similar classifications. Around here, at least, areas such as shopping centre car

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

> On May 26, 2018, at 11:54 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I use highway=service service=driveway for the entire > length of the way, even the end part that is within the government-owned > road parcel. +1 Javbw ___ Tagging mailing

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Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > sent from a phone > >> On 26. May 2018, at 10:41, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> >> I don’t mind, but it isn’t necessary for tag consistency (only if you want >> service to be private) > > > the highway page

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sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:45, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > But feel free to make a good proposal for handling this transition replace highway is service and service is alley with the former plus OR highway is alley in your evaluation rules ;-)

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sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I don’t mind, but it isn’t necessary for tag consistency (only if you want > service to be private) the highway page sees service roads as part of the road network btw:

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26. May 2018 10:32 by jo...@mac.com : > > >> On May 26, 2018, at 6:09 AM, Greg Troxel <>> g...@lexort.com >> >> > wrote: >> >> The fix is to add highway=alley, for things that are too small but >> nevertheless fit the legal definition of a road, and

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sent from a phone On 26. May 2018, at 10:32, John Willis wrote: >> The fix is to add highway=alley, for things that are too small but >> nevertheless fit the legal definition of a road, and then have service >> be for "place you can drive that is not a legal road". > > Sounds

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Le 25. 05. 18 à 23:09, Greg Troxel a écrit : > "place you can drive that is not a legal road". how did you known the owner of a road ? I map several highway=service + service=driveaway sometimes I can guess where the line is between private and public space, but in many cases not. and I don't

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Martin Koppenhoefer writes: >> and track (for - due to history - public accessible rural driveways) is >> simply driven by reality. > > track is about agricultural and forestry usage, I did not know it required > public accessibility, does it? In my usage (and US

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On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:54:13AM +0900, John Willis wrote: > > On May 25, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > > Interestingly the key:highway wiki page lists unclassified as > > the lowest classification of a road: > > That’s weird - since service=alley seems to be the

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> On May 25, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Interestingly the key:highway wiki page lists unclassified as > the lowest classification of a road: That’s weird - since service=alley seems to be the lowest class, being service and all - yet "alley” is a public road. I

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sent from a phone > On 24. May 2018, at 19:29, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Interestingly the key:highway wiki page lists unclassified as > the lowest classification of a road: > >"The least most important through roads in a country's system" it actually says “through road”,

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sent from a phone > On 24. May 2018, at 12:07, Georg Feddern wrote: > > The mapping differentiation in unclassified (mostly connecting roads), > service without service=* (mostly destination roads) what is a “destination road”? > and track (for - due to history -

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Florian, I would agree with you. Posting the Australian pictures on the wiki would attract a few more opinions. Somebody dare? Yves Le 24 mai 2018 19:29:03 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff a écrit : >On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 08:14:34PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> On 23 May 2018 at

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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 08:14:34PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On 23 May 2018 at 23:09, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/service#values > > > > Looking at the values only 10% of the service=* are alley. > > > > What about highway=service without

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On 23 May 2018 at 23:09, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/service#values > > Looking at the values only 10% of the service=* are alley. > > What about highway=service without service=* ? > A lot of these are simply a lower classification than

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Am 23.05.2018 um 22:33 schrieb Greg Troxel: Florian Lohoff writes: I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside as a service roads. I think this is basically wrong tagging. I find this a little

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Yep... a long bit of road Graeme .. does not really convey what is sought here - house at end of long road? Some from wikipedia ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Driveway,_Fosbury_House_-_geograph.org.uk_-_274950.jpg

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I know it's not really what you were after, but you did ask! :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg30-LKCzgY https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Anna+Creek+SA+5723/@-29.3724521,130.8420885,6z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x6a83558ecda63c19:0xb9ea36b2cf0f9cb3!8m2!3d-28.7528625!4d136.2042088

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Has anybody got a good example ofphoto of a long driveway to add to wiki? 23. May 2018 14:51 by yve...@gmail.com : > I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a > mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki > >

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23. May 2018 11:16 by f...@zz.de : > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:12:42AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> 23. May 2018 07:18 by >> f...@zz.de >> <>> >> mailto:f...@zz.de >> >: >> > > >> This applies to all road types (up to

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Florian Lohoff writes: > I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below > unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside > as a service roads. I think this is basically wrong tagging. > I find this a little disturbing and now got into an argument

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[mailto:yve...@gmail.com] Sent: onsdag 23. mai 2018 16.52 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org>; Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de>; tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road? I always found it strange to find a d

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I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service=driveway Yves Le 23 mai 2018 09:18:35 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > >Hi, > >in the past 10 years

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sent from a phone > On 23. May 2018, at 15:22, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > The question is is a highway=service without service=* a replacement > for an unclassified. no, it remains a service road. WRT to totals not matching partial numbers for service=* are you aware the

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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 03:09:14PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:43PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it > > > is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads > > >

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:43PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it > > is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads > > classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by > >

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2018-05-23 13:16 GMT+02:00 Florian Lohoff : > When there is a sign "Private road" i wouldnt tag anything. Thats > just a liability issue. When there is "Access prohibited" or > something its probably okay with "access=private" if it is private property (referring to Germany) and

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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:12:42AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 23. May 2018 07:18 by f...@zz.de : > > > It is a piece of tarmac > > Service road may have any surface, > not only asphalt. Surface is indicated by > surface tag, not highway tag (except > >

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On 23/05/18 18:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 23. May 2018, at 09:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: - Is service a street category below unclassified/residential? - Does a service road typically have a right of way for the public? - Is service usage "just because

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23. May 2018 07:18 by f...@zz.de : > It is a piece of tarmac Service road may have any surface, not only asphalt. Surface is indicated by surface tag, not highway tag (except highway=motorway that indicates high quality surface). In a given region some surfaces may

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

sent from a phone > On 23. May 2018, at 09:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > - Is service a street category below unclassified/residential? > - Does a service road typically have a right of way for the public? > - Is service usage "just because there is only one house/company/farm" >

[Tagging] highway=service // public road?

Hi, in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by somebody not necessarily the public authorities. The public most likely does