It'll be interesting to see how the German community handles this as
an excercise for other communities.
I think that handling this in a local way is the right move.
- Serge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Sometimes I remove stuff by accident realize it later
But wat is local in the global context of OSM? It seems that, as far as
Belgium is concerned, I'm the only one with an interest to keep using them.
I do think they add some value, especially in a bilingual context like in
Brussels.
But if I'm the only one in the whole (small) country, who am I to
Le 25/01/2015 13:00, Andreas Goss a écrit :
Fully borken or not. In my opinion a assiciatedstreet relation that
does not include every element is broken. At that point all the
advantages are gone.
associatedStreet is not multypolygon !
A lack in the outer of a multipolygon is a gap and
2015-01-24 1:07 GMT+01:00 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr:
Le 22/01/2015 22:49, Johan C a écrit :
Good to have this discussion. From a computer expert point-of-view
relations are fantastic for data integrity and to keep database size
low. From an OSM point-of-view, which includes
Hi all - does anyone know what the geographic distribution of
associatedStreet is like? taginfo doesn't render a map (it seems it
doesn't do that for relations). I hear rumours it's mainly Germany but
it'd be handy to know.
Wambacher posted some maps in the Forum:
Your editor will probably hace displayed a warning at step 1. At the
end of the operation, you've got a house missing it street, not a
fully broken relation.
Most don't. Right now JOSM is the only one I use that does. Especially
most mobile editors don't... some just flat out don't even show
Sometimes I remove stuff by accident realize it later and instead of going
back just replace it, because I did more stuff in that time and don't want
to lose my work.
If you care about preserving the history of that object, you could do the
following in JOSM:
Create new layer
Download data
On 25/01/2015, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
My experience is that it is very hard to place every house in the right
relation before you know the actual address. Especially with corner houses
and in rural areas where the driveways to the farms do not always connect
to the street with
On 25/01/2015, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:
Fully borken or not. In my opinion a assiciatedstreet relation that does
not include every element is broken. At that point all the advantages
are gone.
To me breaking the relation would mean that all the addresses it
contains are now
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:17 AM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
wrote:
and more powerful (preparing a
housenumber survey by armchair-mapping buildings and
associatedStreet).
My experience is that it is very hard to place every house in the right
relation before you know the actual
On 24/01/2015, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:
A novice user will hardly break an associatedStreet relation
Remove house. Replace with new outline at the same place. Add tags
again. Done. associatedStreet relation broken.
Your editor will probably hace displayed a warning at step 1.
On 24/01/2015, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
On 24.01.2015 13:12, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
Recomended isn't mandatory. The name tag of associatedStreet is only
of use to mappers (to find the relation in the editor), not consumers.
Not mandatory, but still used in 93.20% of
On 24/01/2015, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:
I really don't get this. If you are able to add house numbers, why would
you be likely to fuck up street names? If at all seeing addr:street when
on the ground is good, because you can be sure it's you are adding it to
the right building
On 24.01.2015 13:12, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
Recomended isn't mandatory. The name tag of associatedStreet is only
of use to mappers (to find the relation in the editor), not consumers.
Not mandatory, but still used in 93.20% of relations. So ignoring the
relation is not practically feasible.
The counter-argument is that a novice is less likely to break the data
when updating an area that is mapped using associatedStreet. I like
the fact the fact that people need not even be aware of addresses in
order to fix a street name.
I disagree. Awareness is exactly what you need. I destroyed
Le 23/01/2015 21:53, moltonel 3x Combo a écrit :
Given that relations in general are not going away, the proper
solution to the novices have trouble with relations problem is not
to use less relations but to make relations easyer to edit and better
documented. FWIW, I feel there is slow but
On 23/01/2015 20:53, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
+1 to all of that
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2015-01-23 21:53 GMT+01:00 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
On 22/01/2015, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote:
From an OSM point-of-view, which includes being friendly towards novice
users, relations should be avoided whenever possible. And
associatedStreet
relations are avoidable.
The
On 22/01/2015, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote:
From an OSM point-of-view, which includes being friendly towards novice
users, relations should be avoided whenever possible. And associatedStreet
relations are avoidable.
The counter-argument is that a novice is less likely to break the data
when
On 23.01.2015 21:53, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
The counter-argument is that a novice is less likely to break the data
when updating an area that is mapped using associatedStreet. I like
the fact the fact that people need not even be aware of addresses in
order to fix a street name.
That's not
2015-01-22 6:53 GMT+00:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com:
It seems like the German community started some voting process on the
deprecation of the associatedStreet-relation (it was on the mailing list and
on the forum).
Discussion is going on on the wiki
Hi all - does anyone know what the geographic distribution of
associatedStreet is like? taginfo doesn't render a map (it seems it
doesn't do that for relations).
This shows a map, I don't know if this is what you are looking for:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/type=associatedStreet#map
Hi,
Am 22. Januar 2015 11:45:47 MEZ, schrieb althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com:
Please vote here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:associatedStreet
Is this a formal voting?
It is not as formal as a proposal voting. I would like to know how the
community (those who
It is not as formal as a proposal voting. I would like to know how the
community (those who vote) think about associatedStreet relations. I think
that in Germany the majority does not like them (anymore).
I will announce a end date. This end date will be date of announcement of end
of
Please vote here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:associatedStreet
Is this a formal voting?
Is there a date for start and end vote?
It looks strange, hidden on a Talk:page without the usual template or
RFC or call for votes on the international mailing lists.
althio
Good to have this discussion. From a computer expert point-of-view
relations are fantastic for data integrity and to keep database size low.
From an OSM point-of-view, which includes being friendly towards novice
users, relations should be avoided whenever possible. And associatedStreet
relations
Le 22/01/2015 14:00, althio a écrit :
Hi all - does anyone know what the geographic distribution of
associatedStreet is like? taginfo doesn't render a map (it seems it
doesn't do that for relations).
UK http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/tags/type=associatedStreet ~9000
PL
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