Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Vào lúc 02:56 2023-06-18, Martin Koppenhoefer đã viết: Am Sa., 17. Juni 2023 um 21:48 Uhr schrieb Minh Nguyen >: Here in the U.S., the meaning of an address depends on who's using it. To the tax authorities, it refers to the whole parcel. To

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Am Sa., 17. Juni 2023 um 21:48 Uhr schrieb Minh Nguyen < m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>: > You're quite fortunate that the meaning of an address is unambiguous in > Italy. At least you can be sure that a pedestrian route will lead to the > main entrance, even if other modes aren't as well-served.

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Vào lúc 21:59 2023-06-16, Volker Schmidt đã viết: When trying to reach a destination that is defined by a complete address (city, street name, house number or name) is that the last meters of the route are, potentially,  much different for a

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

I read this discussion with interest (as end user) and ignorance router-wise. Some unsorted early-morning thoughts on this subject: When trying to reach a destination that is defined by a complete address (city, street name, house number or name) is that the last meters of the route are,

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Vào lúc 11:48 2023-06-15, Sarah Hoffmann via Tagging đã viết: On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 09:38:44AM -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote: I neglected to mention another common heuristic: the geocoder can automatically bias the address point toward the street named in addr:street when coming up with a

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Hi Sarah, On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 08:48:36PM +0200, Sarah Hoffmann via Tagging wrote: > The initial examples of Florian are quite telling in that way. The > closest road to > https://osm.zz.de/dbview/?db=addresses-nrw=namemismatch#51.98796,8.57338,17z > would in fact be the service way right

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Trying to understand. If I read this right you want the router/navigator to replace the target address of a routing request with a different object or location, then start routing, right? Why not simply tag the object_id or other identifier of the replace-destination on the source object (in your

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Am 15.06.23 um 18:38 schrieb Minh Nguyen: Vào lúc 08:29 2023-06-15, Sebastian Gürtler đã viết: You only would have to change the wiki page Key:entrance and encourage people to allow single nodes with the tag entrance=yes and addr:xyz (like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10979019687)

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 09:38:44AM -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 08:29 2023-06-15, Sebastian Gürtler đã viết: > > You only would have to change the wiki page Key:entrance and encourage > > people to allow single nodes with the tag entrance=yes and addr:xyz > > (like this:

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Vào lúc 08:29 2023-06-15, Sebastian Gürtler đã viết: You only would have to change the wiki page Key:entrance and encourage people to allow single nodes with the tag entrance=yes and addr:xyz (like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10979019687) if it is not obvious where the entrance to

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Hi there, I just tried looking from the other perspective: Why is it so difficult to extract proper routes from the osm data and what has already been tried. I just looked over the the issues and some first-sight information on github and have seen that we're facing two different problems here:

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:08:11 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: >> Some of the issues could be handled better by the data consumers. >> I.e., matching names of addresses and roads, routing to gates and >> entrances in parks, routing to terminals in

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Vào lúc 00:26 2023-06-14, Florian Lohoff đã viết: Management Summary: In navigation/routing the point the router is routing to is the nearest point on the routable network from the poi/address we like to navigate to. The nearest point may not be a location where the address/poi can be

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Le 14.06.23 à 19:08, Florian Lohoff a écrit : the centroid of the object this is not algorithmically solvable. you state the problem that makes the algorithm bad :) when you want to go to a surface object, you don't want to go to the centroid for surface objects, take : - all entrance=*

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Le 14.06.23 à 09:26, Florian Lohoff a écrit : source= - Original object we like to reach not source=* ! we already have 3 meanings for it : - how was the data acquired (for ex source=survey) - the context of a data (for ex source:maxspeed=urban) - the primary energy (for ex

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Management Summary: > > In navigation/routing the point the router is routing to is the > > nearest point on the routable network from the poi/address we like to > > navigate to. The nearest point may not be a

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 09:47:28AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > "navaid" may not be the best term since it is used in aviation for actual > physical installations that help with navigations, like radio beacons or > lights. Yeah - i know - call it "navigational_hint" or something. > I

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Am 14.06.23 um 09:47 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, "navaid" may not be the best term since it is used in aviation for actual physical installations that help with navigations, like radio beacons or lights. I am also concerned about the verifiability; is there not a danger that people will

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 09:26 +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Hi, > > Management Summary: >  In navigation/routing the point the router is routing to is the > nearest >  point on the routable network from the poi/address we like to > navigate >  to. The nearest point may not be a location where

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:26:43 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: > >Hi, > >Management Summary: > In navigation/routing the point the router is routing to is the > nearest point on the routable network from the poi/address we like to > navigate to. The

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Hi, "navaid" may not be the best term since it is used in aviation for actual physical installations that help with navigations, like radio beacons or lights. I am also concerned about the verifiability; is there not a danger that people will disagree about what the "best" way is to reach