Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 22:47:34 +0100 Paul Allen wrote: > It's almost as though the people who came up with those names were > given the instruction "Think of a name > that is completely unobvious for this thing and that nobody who saw > the name would realize what it actually >

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

I have struggled with this here in Italy. Maybe we should try to promote amenity=traffic_park - see [1] - eve though it only has three hits in taginfo so far. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_park On 23 April 2018 at 09:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Sun, 22

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

Now you have 4. I've been wondering about this for a long time. Polyglot 2018-04-23 9:56 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt : > I have struggled with this here in Italy. > Maybe we should try to promote amenity=traffic_park - see [1] - eve though > it only has three hits in taginfo so

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

I think we need at least 2 different tags: one for children's education (pedestrians, cycling) and one for safety training areas for adults (cars, motorcycles, trucks). I would prefer a long descriptive term (like: "cycling_training_area") over a nice artificial word like "bicycle_town" which

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would prefer a long descriptive term (like: "cycling_training_area") > over a nice artificial word like "bicycle_town" which creates more > questions than it answers. > I agree completely about needing a

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

2018-04-23 13:03 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen : > > I'd prefer something more structured than duck tagging a crowded amenity > tag, simply because we're likely to > encounter more types of training as time goes by. amenity=training + > training=cycling works for me. > as you can

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

sent from a phone > On 23. Apr 2018, at 12:10, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > The ones used for full-size cars and motorcyles are non scaled down. for cars there might be possibilities to water a smooth surface to train driving in slippery conditions (could be both, a feature

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

@Martin: Hm. The traffic_partks over here are traffic training facilities. Training=cycling sounds to me like learning how to ride a bike (which is in fact a prerequisite). 2018-04-23 13:03 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen : > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < >

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

In addition to training=cycling we should probably also support training:cycling=yes as a single place might offer training in more than one field. From: Paul Allen Sent: Monday, 23 April 2018 21:04 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

This looks very useful. If the better rendering for tree_row gets anywhere, I would very much like to see the same applied to ways tagged as barrier=bollard (representing a row of bollards) as well (which are currently unfortunately not rendered at all). spacing=* sounds like a good key

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

The Dutch word is 'verkeerspark' (=traffic park). Some call them 'verkeerstuin'(traffic garden'), but I think that's just for promotion, it sounds more child-friendly in Dutch. There are variants for categories from toddlers to professional truckdrivers. I would use amenity=traffic_park and if

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

Things that are interesting to add as well are fee / time period bicycle rental go cart rental own bicycle allowed? Polyglot 2018-04-23 11:13 GMT+02:00 Peter Elderson : > The Dutch word is 'verkeerspark' (=traffic park). > > Some call them 'verkeerstuin'(traffic garden'),

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

Hi I've done my homework and created a wiki proposal page . I left out the spacing=nodes part because it causes confusion. The key is now explicitly meant to be a parameter of a group of objects such as a tree_row or orchard,

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

The ones for children seem to get used not only for bicycles, but also for pedestrian education. Then there the ones that use pedal-operated cars. I presume that many of these are used for a mix these means of transdport. They have in common that they are reduced in scale. The ones used for

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

What about these? amenity=traffic_training_area (for adults / cars) amenity=traffic_education_area (for kids) Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-23 0:30 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : > > As for the part of the world I live in, Charles Dickens-style 'orphanages' > don't exist anymore. > Younger minors that are separated from their parents would be placed in > foster families, or live in family-style structures

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

Oh, funny. In Bruges there is one as well. Once a tagging scheme is agreed on, I'll tag it as well. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Vander Vennet 2018-04-23 11:13 GMT+02:00 Peter Elderson : > The Dutch word is 'verkeerspark' (=traffic park). > > Some call them

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

On 23 April 2018 at 21:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > What about these? > amenity=traffic_training_area (for adults / cars) > amenity=traffic_education_area (for kids) > That sounds reasonable, with the second one being exactly

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > What about these? > amenity=traffic_training_area (for adults / cars) > amenity=traffic_education_area (for kids) > What kind of traffic? Are those being trained cyclists, motorcyclists, pedestrians or

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

2018-04-23 14:05 GMT+02:00 Peter Elderson : > @Martin: Hm. The traffic_partks over here are traffic training facilities. > Training=cycling sounds to me like learning how to ride a bike (which is in > fact a prerequisite). > I completely understand, training=cycling was

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

[TIC] training=practical_application_of_traffic_rules From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: Monday, 23 April 2018 22:20 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-23 14:41 GMT+02:00 : > I’m currently using maxwidth=* which for barrier=bollard is documented as > specifying the maximum width that fits past the bollard (which in case of a > row of bollards is basically the distance between them, but ignoring the >

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

2018-04-23 15:04 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen : > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What about these? >> amenity=traffic_training_area (for adults / cars) >> amenity=traffic_education_area (for kids) >> > > What kind of

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

I like "training=traffic_education" for the ones addressed to children. When i was on one of those, as a children, i was too young to ride a bicycle (miniature bikes for children under six were not common in spain in the early seventies). So "training=cycling" is wrong, sine most of these parks

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

On 23.04.2018 12:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: For privacy concerns we obviously wouldn't map foster families, I'm less sure for supervised shared apartments (it depends whether they are publicly known / promoted / listed, have a sign, etc., or if you need "insider knowledge"). Exactly. I

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:57:36 +0200 Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 23.04.2018 12:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > For privacy concerns we obviously wouldn't map foster families, I'm > > less sure for supervised shared apartments (it depends whether they > > are publicly known /

Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

One in our area is named "Bicycle Safety Centre" so that, or Bicycle Safety Training Centre, may be an option? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging