Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream

If you're looking for a good term for the stormwater outlet, the engineering term is "headwall" for the outlet and "catch basin" for the inlet. I don't think either of these are commonly used in osm. "drain_outlet" and "drain_inlet" may be better terms and of more use outside of stormwater

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

I couldn't agree more. Still sure that you don't want to resurrect the proposal? :-) I will never be able to express my thoughts that well ... On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 15:46, John Willis wrote: > > > > > On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > > > But this discussion is about land

Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream

On 20/09/2018 13:53, Warin wrote: >> FWIW, I worked in the highway construction business for 14 years in >> the US.  In the industry terminology where I was, a "pipeline" >> carrying wastewater to a treatment plant was termed a sanitary sewer, >> and a pipeline carrying stormwater (rainwater)

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 10:40, Colin Smale wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for government > functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often indistinguishable > from commercial properties - what is different is that the occupier is some > statutory

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 11:20, egil wrote: > I tend to agree with Colins arguments below, because in Sweden gov. agencies > are very mixed into the central spaces of cities but often not clustered > together in large complexes or whole areas. Just because a tag would have no use in a specific

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 06:08, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > Still sure that you don't want to resurrect the proposal? :-) I will > never be able to express my thoughts that well ... > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 15:46, John Willis wrote: > Copy & paste works well :-) Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

On 20.09.2018 16:29, José G Moya Y. wrote: Hi! If we start mapping refill=soft_drinks;coffee... and so on, how would you map sites where some soft drinks are refillable and some are not? I am strongly against tagging the business practice how often a _paid_ glass of beverage is being

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

> On Sep 21, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > Why should farm be tagged as landuse=religious instead of landuse=farmland > just because it is run by monks? I agree. land used for farming (ie: a big field full of rice, wheat, corn, etc) should be tagged as farmland. A temple

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations

I've only mapped one station like this so far, but the area is actually rendered on the map. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/616033018 On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:43 AM Tom Pfeifer wrote: > Yes of course, I've been doing this for long already. > > On 20.09.2018 14:06, Philip Barnes wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:39 AM Colin Smale wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for > government functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often > indistinguishable from commercial properties - what is different is that > the occupier is some statutory

[Tagging] Emergency=levee_breach_materials

I ran into an interesting thing when mapping my local rivers. All of the rivers in my area have levees running 100% of their length from the mountains to the coast, there are probably over 1000 linear KM of earthen levees in the Tokyo region alone - 20mx10m levees (or bigger) along the outer

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On 20/09/18 03:57, John Willis wrote: ... Retail is always wrong. Commercial is a crutch. In your part of the world, perhaps.  Elsewhere, this isn't guaranteed to be the case.  Certainly here in the UK many formerly "civic" services have been privatised and are run for out-and-out

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: But if you’ve seen an America “civic center” or an Indonesian regency > office, they are quite distinct from commercial offices. American offices > and those in developing countries often seem to be trying to

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

what about Aix-la-Chapelle (French) or Aken (Dutch) for Aachen in Germany ? At least the destination signs in Flanders show "Aken (Aachen)". Or destinations "Parijs" signs for Paris (still +200 km to go) in Flanders. For satnavs this does not matter, you just have to follow the destination they

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On 2018-09-20 12:22, John Willis wrote: >> On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Colin Smale wrote: >> >> Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for government >> functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often indistinguishable >> from commercial properties > > Why

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Toll Gantry

On 20.09.2018 07:28, Warin wrote: On 20/09/18 09:26, Tom Pfeifer wrote: First, how much of a delay is added by the routing engines, have you investigated this? If so, this would be a few seconds once-per trip, not every 500m like a traffic light. Thus the difference on the calculated overall

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On 20.09.2018 11:19, egil wrote: In Sweden government agencies are actually not allowed to own the properties they use. Well, but we tag the _use_, not the _ownership_. So if they have long-running tenancy, they use it this way. tom ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream

From: Jonathon Rossi To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks everyone. Apologies in advance for the long reply. @Graeme I see you tagged the node with

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for government functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often indistinguishable from commercial properties - what is different is that the occupier is some statutory organisation. We don't tag landuse=charity, or

[Tagging] Area of Firestations

Hello, I love how we map areas with amenity=school and buildings inside of it with building=school. The same goes for amenity=hospital and building=hospital. What I'd like to have is the same schema for firestations: They often have a large area and one or multiple buildings on it. Should

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations

Yes, just go for it. Makes perfect sense. Phil (trigpoint) On 20 September 2018 12:56:03 BST, dktue wrote: >Hello, > >I love how we map areas with amenity=school and buildings inside of it >with building=school. The same goes for amenity=hospital and >building=hospital. > >What I'd like to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

Thanks for your local insights. I believe that the UK program called "Refill" used the word in a different meaning as well, hence the key `free_refill=*` could lead to confusion in the future. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refill_(scheme) Listing the semicolon-separated list of refillable

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Toll Gantry

>In light of the fact that some roads will be missing the tag toll=yes, routing >software will have to be updated to avoid highway=toll_gantry if the user is >trying to avoid tolls entirely. Just a note about this point, there can be barrier=toll_booth's or highway=toll_gantry's which only toll

Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream

On 20/09/18 21:53, EthnicFood IsGreat wrote: From: Jonathon Rossi To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks everyone. Apologies in advance for the long reply.

Re: [Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I'll have to do some more digging (err pun). > Sounds like hard work. I'd just go through the motions. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Toll Gantry

Tom, I’ll try to address most of your points below Zack LaVergne | Kaart | Software Developer | 501.690.0584 | z...@kaartgroup.com  KAART CONFIDENTIAL This message (including attachments if any) is for the private use of the

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:55 AM André Pirard wrote: > Belgium speaks 3 official languages and their very official borders *have > been* mapped. > This subject was presented several times on this list and "raised" a total > lack of interest. > Especially regarding the need to define a language

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

On 2018-09-20 17:16, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:55 AM André Pirard > wrote: Belgium speaks 3 official languages and their very official borders *have been* mapped. This subject was presented several times on this list and "raised"

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

It sounds this tag will not be used in Sweden. It may not be much use in England either. But if you’ve seen an America “civic center” or an Indonesian regency office, they are quite distinct from commercial offices. American offices and those in developing countries often seem to be trying to

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

In Sweden government agencies are actually not allowed to own the properties they use. Therefore they have long term tenant contracts with required minimum level of building maintenance, etc. These properties are owned by large private real estate giants buying and selling from each other.

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

for gouvernment i use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse=commercial and set office information on point or directly on building set bulding=public Cheers Le jeu. 20 sept. 2018 à 11:20, egil a écrit : > In Sweden government agencies are actually not allowed to own the > properties

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Certainly here in the UK many formerly "civic" services have been privatised > and are run for out-and-out commercial gain Parliament's landuse isn't landuse=retiail, right? You are thinking of *amenities and services* - not buildings

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for government > functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often indistinguishable > from commercial properties Why does what the buildings look like matter?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

Yes, something like that would do, although we still need to decide the top level key to use, let me refer to it as "drink_refill" for now. For example: drink_refill=coffee;pear_drink;blueberry_drink;tea_unsugared_drink;ikea_cola Although, it depends on how common these irregular places are. In

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Are you sure that other data that will be imported from OSM database and OSM Wikiis not covered by copyright, data protection restrictions etc? 18. Sep 2018 18:43 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com : > Peter, I agree it would be much easier to use OSM metadata under

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Are you aware that it would make impossible to import any data incompatible with CC0? For start, import data from existing OSM Wiki would not be able to happen. 18. Sep 2018 18:37 by pe...@openstreetmap.com.br : > Hi, veri good news! > About license, can by

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

18. Sep 2018 22:58 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com : > Would copying short description strings be considered fair use depends on usage of data and your jurisdiction (in other words: legal quagmire not solving anything at all)   > or even re-licensable under

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

In Poland legal status of road is very often unrelated to OSM tag of road. For example one may have highway=residential inside legal urban area and outsidelegal urban area. 19. Sep 2018 15:25 by djakk.dj...@gmail.com : > By the way, we should de-correlate the

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

Hi, Yes, only official languages should be mapped. They're difficult enough already to be verified "on the ground" in a survey. Belgium speaks 3 official languages and their very official borders have been mapped. This subject was presented several times on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Toll Gantry

For the ones you have to stop at, try adding highway=traffic_signals or highway=stop, it's pretty rare to find toll barriers that expect you to stop to not have one or both. For at speed ones, just don't add the stop or signals that don't exist. As for toll gantries not requiring you to slow

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations

Yes of course, I've been doing this for long already. On 20.09.2018 14:06, Philip Barnes wrote: Yes, just go for it. Makes perfect sense. Phil (trigpoint) On 20 September 2018 12:56:03 BST, dktue wrote: Hello, I love how we map areas with amenity=school and buildings inside of it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

Hi! If we start mapping refill=soft_drinks;coffee... and so on, how would you map sites where some soft drinks are refillable and some are not? As an example, in Ikea the bottled unsugared top-brand cola drink (I don't remember whether it is coke zero or pepsi max) can not be refilled, where the