Re: [Tagging] shop=social_market ?

2013-09-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've never heard this term. A close match is the Mormon "Bishop's Storehouse" http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/new-bishops-central-storehouse-serve And there's a chain (Grocery Outlet) that sells (at low prices) a variety of goods including nearly expired and scratch & dent. __

[Tagging] Visual editor for the wiki (WAS: How to overcome lack of consensus)

2013-09-22 Thread Rob Nickerson
Quote: I'm not sure I'd rush into it, anyway. Even granted that en.wikipedia probably uses more complex markup and templates than we do, uptake of the visual editor (among new editors and otherwise) doesn't seem very high, and no one outside of the WMF seems very impressed by its current state of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Substation Refinement)

2013-09-22 Thread François Lacombe
G.R.E.A.T :) *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2013/9/22 Ole Nielsen > The Substation Refinement proposal has now been stable for some time. It > is therefore time to announce the voting on this proposal. > > http://wiki.openstreet

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Substation Refinement)

2013-09-22 Thread Ole Nielsen
The Substation Refinement proposal has now been stable for some time. It is therefore time to announce the voting on this proposal. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Substation_refinement In short it - introduces a consistent tagging scheme for substation properties and subs

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread NopMap
dieterdreist wrote > I continue to oppose the usage of man_made=tower for electricity lattice > towers +1 The wiki page [1] currently states consistently in English and German that a man_made=tower is a solid building while girder frameworks are man_made=mast. A tower is a building. It makes abs

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread François Lacombe
Deprecating power=tower and power=pole was my first proposition. Many people goes against it and then I refined the proposal. For now *I'm just introducing man_made=tower* + tower:type=power to use it when power=* is needed to describe hosted devices. Thus, man_made=tower doesn't seem to be the p

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22/set/2013 um 21:10 schrieb François Lacombe > : > > All what we are discussing about, right now, is how things will go once this > proposal would has been accepted. you would need an extraordinary vote to deprecate power=tower ;-) ___ Taggin

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread François Lacombe
2013/9/22 alessandro zardo > >minor_line should be deprecated by power transmission refinement. > > But It's a proposal not yet approved All what we are discussing about, right now, is how things will go once this proposal would has been accepted. Even if we have minor_line currently, it's use

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread alessandro zardo
>It's like this. >http://wharferj.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/electricity-pylons-001.jpg But this for me are tower. > and about minor_line? >minor_line should be deprecated by power transmission refinement. But It's a proposal not yet approved ___

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread François Lacombe
2013/9/22 Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) > so if we have to use something > under man_made, I'd go for man_made=pylon. > Why not. It's even better than power=tower IMHO. 2013/9/22 alessandro zardo > what is lattice framework structure can I see a picture. It's like this. http://wharferj.files.

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread alessandro zardo
what is lattice framework structure can I see a picture. and about minor_line? Da: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) A: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Inviato: Domenica 22 Settembre 2013 19:32 Oggetto: Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 22 September 2013 15:34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I wouldn't tag them as man_made=tower Me neither. The typical large metal framework structures for carrying high-voltage electricity cables would be unlikely to be called towers in normal British English language usage. I would guess that m

Re: [Tagging] Visual editor for the wiki (WAS: How to overcome lack of consensus)

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Hoess
Rob, I'm not sure I'd rush into it, anyway. Even granted that en.wikipedia probably uses more complex markup and templates than we do, uptake of the visual editor (among new editors and otherwise) doesn't seem very high, and no one outside of the WMF seems very impressed by its current state of de

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread François Lacombe
2013/9/22 Martin Koppenhoefer > > > > Am 22/set/2013 um 15:40 schrieb fly : > > > > P.s.: What about towers/poles for aerialways ? > > > I wouldn't tag them as man_made=tower > I introduce man_made=pole if you want ;) *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Bridge types)

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Hoess
Greetings, I've just been over the bridge types proposal < http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bridge_types> which I brought to the list twice earlier this year. I think the bugs have been pretty well ironed out, and further changes would largely be a matter of taste, so I bring i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=musical_instrument

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Hoess
Andreas, Those are somewhat exceptional situations, since "clothes" doesn't really have a singular in English and shoes are inevitably sold by the pair. -- Chris Hoess On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: > On 21.09.13 18:00, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > For shops selling

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22/set/2013 um 15:40 schrieb fly : > > P.s.: What about towers/poles for aerialways ? I wouldn't tag them as man_made=tower I wouldn't tag every antenna as tower neither, but of course there are communication towers (e.g. there are some famous ones for tv). cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] shop=social_market ?

2013-09-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Does "social market" make sense to native English speakers? No. I (US native, northeast) have no idea what that means. We have things called "food pantry", which is a charity; people donate food (or money, which the organization use to buy low-cost food from supermarkets). People who don't h

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread fly
Am 22.09.2013 15:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > >> Am 22/set/2013 um 15:14 schrieb fly : >> >> +1 using man_made=tower for all towers > > > are electrical towers actual towers? Considering tower:type=communication - Yes. > Do you propose to also discourage the use of water_tower? What d

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22/set/2013 um 15:14 schrieb fly : > > +1 using man_made=tower for all towers are electrical towers actual towers? Do you propose to also discourage the use of water_tower? What do we gain? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread fly
+1 using man_made=tower for all towers Lets show that we are flexible enough and not that conservative to fix mistakes even if they were made some years ago and if the are right now an established method. Am 21.09.2013 21:16, schrieb Ole Nielsen: > On 21/09/2013 21:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread bredy
Andreas Labres wrote > On 21.09.13 21:16, Ole Nielsen wrote: >> On 21/09/2013 21:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >>> I continue to oppose the usage of man_made=tower for electricity lattice >>> towers (that what has been power=tower until now and which is 4,8 >>> Million times in use). Why should we

Re: [Tagging] shop=social_market ?

2013-09-22 Thread Jo
That sounds like the better tags Martin. In Belgium we also have social restaurants. Jo Op 22 sep. 2013 11:25 schreef "Martin Koppenhoefer" het volgende: > > 2013/9/22 Andreas Labres > >> Hi! >> >> Does "social market" make sense to native English speakers? >> >> I'm looking for tagging what is

Re: [Tagging] shop=social_market ?

2013-09-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/22 Andreas Labres > Hi! > > Does "social market" make sense to native English speakers? > > I'm looking for tagging what is called in German: > > Sozialmarkt oder Sozialladen > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialmarkt_(Einzelhandel) >

Re: [Tagging] shop=social_market ?

2013-09-22 Thread Paul Churchley
I don't know what a Social Market is Thomas. Paul On 22 September 2013 05:21, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Never heard of such a thing. We certainly don't have such a market and > judging from our increasingly conservative government I doubt we ever will. > > AlaskaDave > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 a