Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
pipeline and highway on the same element is a poor idea. Lets start from fact that underground pipeline should be tagged with location=underground. 2014-12-03 23:14 GMT+01:00 Rainer Fügenstein : > > > MR> I do not know why anyone should tag one OSM way both with power=* and > MR> railway=*. > > a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
There are a number of possible shades of potable: * It's not designated, but in an area where all faucet water is potable (e.g. major cities, fountains in rome). * It's designated potable. * It's designated as untested (e.g. "drink at your own risk") * It's designated non-potable by color or speci

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-03 Thread Warin
On 4/12/2014 10:14 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:13:43 +0100 From: Kotya Karapetyan To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread François Lacombe
Thank you Michael for your contribution and clear examples. 2014-12-03 23:14 GMT+01:00 Rainer Fügenstein : > > just imagine a city like vienna, drawing one or more man_made=pipeline > ways parallel to nearly every highway=* - a nightmare, editing-wise. > > in these cases, it would be better to u

Re: [Tagging] [Imports] Portland, OR building and address import

2014-12-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: > One open question for me, which we I would appreciate guidance on, is > whether or not to import address points for each unit number in a building, > where we have them. Right now, we are not planning to, but it would be easy > to change t

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
MR> I do not know why anyone should tag one OSM way both with power=* and MR> railway=*. and here I contradict my own oppinion: In many cities, there's a gas pipeline running under (almost) every street, providing gas to domestic homes (as do water, sewage ...) just imagine a city like vienna,

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
let me sum this up: - loop=yes, a technical term in use and accepted by the pipeline industry ("loop configuration"), was "voted down" in favour of a more generic term, that can also be used in other areas (flow_direction=*). and also not to have one more tag. - mount=* was abandoned in favour o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-03 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
> > water_source:sparkling=yes | no | unknown >>> >>> >>> in analogy: "water:effervescent" (or ~:sparkling) >>> >> >> I don't mind using the word "effervescent"; however: is there any >> recommendation that we should use as "simple" words as possible, to achieve >> the above goals 1 and 3? I k

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2014-11-23 um 23:09 schrieb François Lacombe: > As suggested on Talk page of Power transmission refinement proposal, power > lines and cable should be described with a key giving their usage in the > network. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Power_transmission_re

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-03 19:19 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : > since all features concerned by my proposal and railway one will be tagged > with power=* or railway=* yes, and some will be tagged with power=* and railway=* and that's where the fun begins... cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread François Lacombe
I understand your points but not convinced at all. Railway guys did it right. For me, the best example is the location=* tag as mentioned before. It is actually used in many fields of knowledge, with different and maybe specific values for each. No namespace was introduced and all values shouldn'

Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

2014-12-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Welty [2014-11-27 11:09 -0500]: > actually, specifying the shield with a URL for an svg file was an older > approach. And, I should note, one that I consciously did not use. I believe it was Richard Weait who pointed out that grabbing an arbitrary image, chosen by someone else, off of

Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

2014-12-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* johnw [2014-11-28 13:11 +0900]: > > On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > the basic scheme doesn't require anything new or unusual in > > route relation tagging, just care and consistency. > > I look forward to seeing his RFC page then ^_^ Well, the point is that you can rende

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-02 21:50 GMT+01:00 Kotya Karapetyan : > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > I see hierarchy and encapsulation of tags as the means to achieve these > three goals. That's why I also would like to avoid going "outside" the tag > by usi

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-03 12:35 GMT+01:00 althio forum : > Long post to follow so this is a short version. > (1) proposing tagging for zone like ZTL: > highway/zone:traffic=IT:limited_traffic_zone > there is actually a proposal for this kind of zone, to be mapped as a polygon, useful e.g. for rendering (with n

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread althio forum
Long post to follow so this is a short version. "too long; didn't read" [TL;DR]: (1) proposing tagging for zone like ZTL: highway/zone:traffic=IT:limited_traffic_zone (2) proposing access=authorised (3) I don't like acronyms (4) attempt to modify "access" categories and labels Long post: Old pro

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-03 6:35 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > I guess that these regulations are not done by explicit listing, but by > definition of ZTLs in the laws. So all you need is a tag like highway=ztl > or > highway=pedestrian+pedestrian=ztl, and some comment on the default access > page. > It seem

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-02 21:05 GMT+01:00 Ole Nielsen : > On 02/12/2014 14:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> >> In short, I think we should add more access classes to the wiki: >> >> - armed_forces=yes/no etc. (identifier cannot be "military" because that >> key is taken) >> >> > I think military_personnel=* i

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 2014-12-03 11:02, Mateusz Konieczny pisze: "Are there really road signs with additional plates listing all of that stuff?" Some egregious example from Poland: https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.0661474,19.9390468,3a,41.6y,230.88h,84.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s-rGw0-IoKZGQKjyZKeRl0Q!2e0?hl=en

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
"Are there really road signs with additional plates listing all of that stuff?" Some egregious example from Poland: https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.0661474,19.9390468,3a,41.6y,230.88h,84.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s-rGw0-IoKZGQKjyZKeRl0Q!2e0?hl=en "How big are those signs, and how long does it take f

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2014-12-03 at 06:35:29 +0100, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > Are there really road signs with addional plates listing all of that stuff? often, yes > How big are those signs, and how long does it take for a driver to read them? enought time that you just don't stop to read them and assume that