Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
Wow, I only asked about using the single line/minor_line distinction; if this one isn't easy at all, what will it be by adding importance or usage, which seems far less obvious than minor_line/line, itself not as obvious as I thought at first? The current disctinction has the advantage it can

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
Thanks for the full story, Lauri. I understand now why the subject seems so sensitive to some. I retain from your story, if I correctly understood it that:* the current usage of minor_line/line is the one I previously suggested: use minor_line for lines mainly on poles and line for lines mainly

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
In fact, this problem leaded me to my question: I noticed some minor lines tagged as power=line, cluttering the Mapnik rendering, so I searched the correct way of modelling them, to see if it was a rendering or modelling issue, and one thing leading to another… Regarding the parting between

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
David Marchal wrote: > I saw conflicting points of view regarding the difference between these two > ways for modelling aerial power lines: some say that it is the voltage which > matters, others say that it's the visibility difference that matters, others Hi. To properly understand this issue,

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-15 11:31 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet : > If the height of a mountain define its importante, simply use the 'ele=*' > attribute to sort them, no need for another subjective 'importante' tag. on a side note, it is not simple as that, because a peak is just local, the

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-15 09:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > sent from a phone > >> Am 14.10.2015 um 23:49 schrieb André Pirard : >> >> Under the thread "château" I pointed out that there are buildings that can >> be called château ≃ castle and that are not historic at all. > >

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > > Oxford dictionary describes kiln as > "a furnace or oven for burning, baking, or drying, esp. one for calcining > lime or firing pottery." We should really separate things used to prepare foods and things used

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Éric Gillet
> > > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe > wrote: > > > > importance=* > > That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or > useful - like with mountains or regional features that need to shown at > varying z levels based on...

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] > I think the "historic" key is correct. > +1 Hearst castle is definitely historic, its on several historic records. My parent's house in California, built in 1922 out of

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Éric Gillet
2015-10-15 11:31 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet : > > If the height of a mountain define its importance, simply use the 'ele=*' > attribute to sort them, no need for another subjective 'importance' tag. > Sorry for typos in my previous email, I meant 'importance' and not

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread Volker Schmidt
Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] I think the "historic" key is correct. This is what Google proposes as definition and synonyms: adjective: historic 1. famous or important in history, or potentially so. "we are standing on a historic site" synonyms:significant

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe > wrote: > > importance=* That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or useful - like with mountains or regional features that need to shown at varying z levels based on... Importance.

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Oct 15, 2015, at 12:11 AM, David Marchal wrote: > > Do you mean that the landscape impact criteria is already the one used to > distinguish minor_line and line? I think he means that there is usually a huge difference in voltage and line type between lines on

Re: [Tagging] manège - area for horse training

2015-10-15 Thread Marc Gemis
There are 2 pages related to horse riding actiities [1] in English, [2] in German. They do not have the same content. The German page mentions amenity=stables+sport=equestrian (for sport competions) as well as building=riding_school (for learning how to ride) regards m [1]

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread Greg Troxel
David Marchal writes: > Thanks for the full story, Lauri. I understand now why the subject > seems so sensitive to some. I retain from your story, if I correctly > understood it that:* the current usage of minor_line/line is the one I > previously suggested: use minor_line for

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
Javbw On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: >> > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe >> > wrote: >> > >> > importance=* >> >> That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or >> useful -

[Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-15 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi all, forgive me if this was discussed before: There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / highway=planned as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand that we have tags like highway=dismantled and

Re: [Tagging] manège - area for horse training

2015-10-15 Thread Colin Smale
Seems to be a hot item in the equestrian world: https://www.google.com/search?q=menage+manege=menage+manege=chrome..69i57j69i60.6298j0j7=chrome_sm=0=UTF-8 Management summary is that manège is correct (it is the proper french word), menage really means something different (household or

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-15 Thread Hans De Kryger
Do you have any examples? On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 + > Gerd Petermann wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > forgive me if this was discussed before: > > There seems to be a need to map

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > t least the intention was to build a castle, the typology is copying > from castles, Hearst ruled an imperium (of publishing), he organized > impressive receptions, held formal dinners, etc. --- for

Re: [Tagging] post_box:type values, meter in particular

2015-10-15 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-10-15 20:54, Holger Mappt wrote: Hi, The post_box:type Wiki page [1] was created two months ago and the key was added to the JOSM preset recently [2]. That means that the values show up in Launchpad for translation. The "meter" type in particular is hard to translate as it is not clear

Re: [Tagging] manège - area for horse training

2015-10-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 21:14 +0200, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > > > Op 15 okt. 2015, om 19:43 heeft Philip Barnes > > het volgende geschreven: > > > > On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 16:49 +0100, Dave F. wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > >

Re: [Tagging] manège - area for horse training

2015-10-15 Thread Volker Schmidt
The French wiki seems to be very clear: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Riding What the picture shows is a Carrière, which is to be tagged as leisure=pitch sport=equestrian ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] post_box:type values, meter in particular

2015-10-15 Thread Holger Mappt
Hi, The post_box:type Wiki page [1] was created two months ago and the key was added to the JOSM preset recently [2]. That means that the values show up in Launchpad for translation. The "meter" type in particular is hard to translate as it is not clear for non-UK citizens like me what that

Re: [Tagging] post_box:type values, meter in particular

2015-10-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 21:54 +0200, Holger Mappt wrote: > Hi, > > The post_box:type Wiki page [1] was created two months ago and the > key > was added to the JOSM preset recently [2]. That means that the values > show up in Launchpad for translation. The "meter" type in particular > is > hard to

[Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-15 Thread Gerd Petermann
Oops, forgot to set the list on cc Von: Gerd Petermann Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21 An: Hans De Kryger Betreff: AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? Example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185 which is just the first

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 + Gerd Petermann wrote: > Hi all, > > forgive me if this was discussed before: > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / highway=planned > as this might

Re: [Tagging] manège - area for horse training

2015-10-15 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 15 okt. 2015, om 19:43 heeft Philip Barnes het > volgende geschreven: > > On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 16:49 +0100, Dave F. wrote: >> Hi >> >> http://www.martincollins.com/Portals/0/Images/menage-surfaces/menage-surface-martin-collins.jpg >> >> I'm trying to find an