drink:speciality_coffee
(and all the other nifty little tags shop, craft, brand and so forth)
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(called snorklingsled or trail for snorkeling)
http://goteborg.se/wps/wcm/connect/e710693c-16cd-43d5-ab26-d36a020f3a38/Tv%C3%A5viksbroschyr_+snorkelled_webb.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
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Janko Mihelić janjko@... writes:
If you ask me, all fast foods are restaurants, restaurant is just a
broader term.There's no way we can find a clear line that distinct fast food
with slow food restaurants. What ever rule you find, there will be some
example of a restaurant that fits
I have written a proposal to map day spas and spa resorts, places you go to
get relaxing treatments over the day or weekend.
Is it a good move to map these features separately?
If it is, then we could discuss the value of the tag, for the moment I just
put down tourism=spa_resort.
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist@... writes:
2013/8/10 hannes.janet...@gmail.com
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com
Tradeoff sounds too unspecific to me. amenity=public_bookcase is used
once already. Though here are also shelves to share other things so a
bit more generic tag might be good.
Tobias cra_klinrain@... writes:
amenity=reuse
reuse:books=yes
This could be a better alternative for tradeoff. I did not find a
wiki-article. Is there one?
No, I copied it from amenity=recycling
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling
Recycling is apparently when you
John Sturdy jcg.sturdy@... writes:
It would probably be good to re-open discussion (and add your voice to
it, particularly as you have an interest in using such a tag); after
that, I think this one could be ready to vote on.
__John
On 7/9/13, alyssa wright alyssapwright at gmail.com
Felix Delattre maps@... writes:
for the address system based on reference points, which is largely used
in Central American countries we would like to propose the tag
reference_point. This is needed to get routing working in this part of
the world. We can not use existing tags (such as
Johan Jönsson johan.j@... writes:
A proposed key for non-physical tagging of the rating of another feature.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Awards_and_ratings
award:award_system=award_value
e.g.
award:hotelstars=4stars
Last chance to cast your vote
Wolfgang Zenker wolfgang@... writes:
* Murry McEntire murry.mcentire@... [130607 20:15]:
[..]
A summary as I understand it:
We currently have English labels and definitions used for
tags for bakery
and confectionery that have language translation mismatches, especially
based on
Michael Krämer ohrosm@... writes:
..snip..
Basically I think we're on the same page: To my understanding we agree
that there's a need to differentiate between the different kinds of
baked goods. So the problem is how to classify and name these.
But as pretty often I guess that's where
Peter Wendorff wendorff@... writes:
Hi.
I'm curious wether the existence/usage of an oven is the best criterium
for this issue.
At least in Germany a lot of bakeries have an oven, but use it only to
bake prepared raw rolls/buns/..., selling them fresh, sometimes still
warm (if you're there
Andreas Labres list@... writes:
Here (in Vienna ;) the distinciton is Bäckerei (= bakery, who also sell
sweets
like those Viennoiseries) vs Konditorei (= pâtisserie) (those are
different
crafts). Don't know what the correct English translation is for the
latter, it
seems to be
A proposed key for non-physical tagging of the rating of another feature.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Awards_and_ratings
award:award_system=award_value
e.g.
award:hotelstars=4stars
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Murry McEntire murry.mcentire@... writes:
I do see bakery (baked goods) and confectionery (candy, chocolates) and
the shops that sell them as very different so would never use the later for
any of the former.
snip
Here (Western US), i usually do not first think of a bakery shop for bread,
I propose a scheme how to tag existing map features with the awards or ratings
it have achieved. This does not mean that you have to or even should tag
awards and ratings, but if you want to, use this scheme.
Comments on the scheme?
Andy Carter osm@... writes:
Planters are very common (in the UK at least) in town precincts, streets and
parks.
My feeling is that they should be included in OSM for much the same reason
as
barriers or bollards.
Most are made of brick, concrete or similar and permanent features of
Andy Carter osm@... writes:
On Tuesday 04 Sep 2012 11:24:13 John Sturdy wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Johan Jönsson johan.j@... wrote:
Seems absolute spot on as a large flower-pot used as decoration or as a
barrier. Since we do not have a key for this kind of less noticeable
Andrew Errington erringtona@... writes:
Thanks everyone for the tips.
I'm sure it's all stores:
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?
aid=2954734cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist2
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Andrew Errington erringtona@...
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Michael P pancoma@... writes:
I believe I created a new proposal discussion page
at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Meditation_centre_tag
A good initiative of you to create a tag for these places. It should be of
interest for mappers to tag this feature.
To formalize this
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist@... writes:
...
IMHO in OSM it would make sense to have several tags describing
generic properties instead of having one single value with a very
specific class.
E.g. one tag might be vegetation=trees, shrubs, grass, no, where
no could follow the definition
St Niklaas st.niklaas@... writes:
IMHO is a grass covered area, temporarily, scrubbs and trees are covering it
without care in an short period of time, whos tagging it again ? Why not
nature as tag in nature reserve area 's. Just to avoid the immage Ive seen,
with a large forest area and a
Frederik Ramm frederik@... writes:
On 08/13/12 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
+1, the FAO system seems quite elaborated (might be too
detailed/complicated/long for OSM, not sure,
Anything used for OSM must enable someone who knows shit about biology
and geology to make a meaningful
Ole Nielsen / osm on-osm@... writes:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditional_restrictions
A short comment on the proposal: The actual conditions go into the tag
value. The transport mode (vehicle catagory) and the direction stay in the
key in accordance with
Werner Poppele poppele@... writes:
According to the Wiki-page, the tag amenity=waste_basket should be put
to a node. I found ways tagged with this tag [1] in Bakersfield,
California. Is that wrong ?
I think yes, because a waste basket is normally a small amenity.
Therefore a node is
To make my question more clear:
IF we where to use landcover, what would then the value for grasslands and
lawns be?
=herbaceous
=herbs
=grass
In another context, guess the third:
landcover=trees/shrubs/???
The description would be something like
Areas where the vegetation is dominated by
On 03/08/2012 12:36, Martin Vonwald wrote:
But on the other hand those subkeys are harder for mappers. That's
why we will not see landcover=vegetation + vegetation=trees and
similar constructs. Such hierarchical tags have the disadvantage that
mappers often have to use more than one tag.
LM_1 flukas.robot+osm@... writes:
What about this:
Let's have fully qualified hierarchical names, something like
landcover=vegetation:herbaceous:grass,
...
Mappers would understandably not be willing to do it all, therefore
any generic qualifications could be omited if the rest is
Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xificurk@... writes:
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Names_localization
OK, so if I understand this right
lang=language_code is supposed to tell what languages that are used in the
tag name=place_name
May I propose to use
Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xificurk@... writes:
Johan Jönsson wrote:
By the way, is it only meant as an internal OSM-thing or is it supposed to
also be a mapping of official languages in the place (or official
languages
expected on road signs)?
Could you provide an example, where
Martijn van Exel m at rtijn.org writes:
Linked data is not about linking to every possible source from one
source, but rather publishing your data as RDF thus allowing linkages
with other datasets. See here[1].
I don't think it gets much attention in the OSM community, and I don't
claim to
I thought it would be a good thing to at öleast pass the proposal-phase for
the tag emergency=aed
#The value aed seem to be the agreed value, it is a abbrevation of Automatic
External Defibrillator (An AED is a device designed for the layman to treat
life threatening cardiac arrhythmias).
Sometimes there is a discussion on how to tag differnt kind of awards and
ratings.
I thoguht a bit of this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Johan_J%C3%
B6nsson/Workspace#some_musings_on_the_subject
and came up with a pre-draft that I might take further if there is any
interest:
fly lowflight66@... writes:
On 25/07/12 14:00, LM_1 wrote:
2012/7/25 Jason Cunningham jamicuosm at googlemail.com:
On 24 July 2012 19:55, David ``Smith'' vidthekid at gmail.com wrote:
Useful to whom? The local fire department should already know, and nobody
else should be authorized
This is an old proposal that have been discussed before. It seem to be in use
according to tag watch, so I have been urged to make this official.
There are also similar tags in use and others proposed but that doesn´t mean
this one could be approved for use by a voting.
Eventually, when the
There are plenty of beaches (and marinas) that have a blue flag with a
breaking wave on it, they have excellent water quality and a couple of other
nice things. It wouldn´t be wrong to map these, and it is easily done with
this simple proposal. When a mapper sees the flag on the beach just add
This is an old proposal that have been discussed before. It seem to be in use
according to tag watch, so I have been urged to make this official.
There are also similar tags in use and others proposed but that doesn´t mean
this one could be approved.
Simone Saviolo simone.saviolo@... writes:
Yes, in fact, that's what I meant. Every single beach area in the
municipality has been awarded the flag. I am still a bit unsure, though: do
you know of cities in which only some of the beaches/marinas have the flag,
and others don't?
I
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist@... writes:
2012/6/27 Janko Mihelić janjko at gmail.com:
I got an answer about gray flags on their site:
The grey flags are Blue Flag sites not in Blue Flag season yet: this means
they have been awarded the Blue Flag, but will comply with all criteria
I will make my point clearer.
It isn´t the houses with adresses that will be tagged, it is the
Reference_point itself.
A street with 20 houses.
*The street: highway=residential and name=Big_Street
*The twenty houses have each addr:housenumber=1..20 and addr:street=Big_Street
An area with 20
Felix Delattre linux@... writes:
I started working on a draft for a proposal:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:reference_point
Please help me!
This is an important thing to map.
I have been looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses and it
seems that
A proposal to map locations to bathe at, including the near surroundings
connected to the bathing experience. Failing to create a general tag (it got
to general) here are three rather general but still usable tags:
leisure=sea_bath
leisure=lake_bath
leisure=river_bath
Ideas on these names and
Erik Johansson erjohan@... writes:
I would probably use leisure=bath to map outdoor bathing places, but
I'm not sure the word is that much better than a direct translation of
the Swedish word, which would be;
amenity=place_of_bathing
So maybe just use the Swedish word
bath:construction = indoor/outdoor/natural
bath:water= sea/fresh/mineral/treated
There are probably more sub-tags and we can come up with better names and
groups.
/Johan Jönsson
p.s.
(If this doesn´t fit the osm-scheme, then I can make separate proposals for
all diffferent leisure and amenities, I
LM_1 flukas.robot+osm@... writes:
2012/3/11 Johan Jönsson johan.j at goteborg.cc:
leisure=bandstand is a good tag.
The bandstand is a prominent feature that is easy to map, so ease of
mapping
with one tag is prefect.
Is this not bad, having more (independent) information in one tag
In older days and in some parts of the world the public bath is an amenity and
not a leisure. I am sticking to trying to find one tag for the leisure-bath
establishments, but it might be possible to find a general tag encompassing
both leisure and amenity and then have subtags to discern them.
I made a try to do go through some examples to see how it worked. They are at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Johan_J%C3%B6nsson/Workspace
what I can see, it looks like it is only the open-air public nature bath
locations that really lack tags, swimming_pools and indoor bath locations
leisure=bandstand is a good tag.
The bandstand is a prominent feature that is easy to map, so ease of mapping
with one tag is prefect.
With one tag it maps both:
*the physical building (band_stand says in one word that it is a small open
pavilion)
*the use/function: scheduled music (a bit
What do you think about a tag for different kind of places to bathe.
Small recluse places along a river,
Organized public places with piers and beaches
Turkish bathes
maybe even hot springs.
I´m thinking about something along the lines of
leisure=bath
What I am after is a place for the leisure
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/disc_golf
This is yet another value for the key sport=
As all sport tags, this could be used on places suitable for exercising the
sport, for clu houses or shops. As for all sports tags, this tag is supposed to
go with physical tag.
If the
first maps in the
world.
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Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist@... writes:
2011/11/6 Johan Jönsson johan.j at goteborg.cc:
It will be nice with a physical tag for the place to play disc_golf.
As the course it self probably could be found in a larger wood or park
without any clear boundaries of where the course
of
bare rock (stony ground). The vegetated/barren couple could be better.
Anyone got any objections on barren, do it have other meanings?
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# stony_ground Might seem to exclude the really big stones, boulders and such.
# fragmented_rock Is fragmented understandable?
Or is it futile to find something to encompass everything from fields of large
boulders to gravel?
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something along the scheme of natural=wetland, wetland= {more detailed
desc.} Maybe natural=woodland?
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main vegetation-type is not identified directly, instead one have to further tag
each type with further info. From the distribution(or density) of each type a
renderer could decide what graphics to use.
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Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist@... writes:
2011/9/1 Johan Jönsson johan.j at goteborg.cc:
I have also looked at the UN-organization FAO that reasons about a scheme
for
tagging land cover...
http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/X0596E/x0596e01f.htm
It's indeed interesting how they do
Bryce Nesbitt bryce2@... writes:
On 08/31/2011 10:50 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
A name to use for tagging stony ground.
I am looking for a denomination to use for an area that have little or no
vegetation so that the stony ground shows. Could there be a tag describing
everything from
of the road as a sidewalk.
Whoever invented the black-white striping probably did not intend it to be a
designated pedestrian area, more something of a no drive zone, probably some
kind of safety issue concerning the joining roads.
/Johan Jönsson, Sweden-do not know anything about american sidewalks
to figure out what belongs there according to proximity.
Good luck!
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an easy solution would be to use top_piece
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additions to the top)
should be one of the most important subtags.
Let us test to tag some examples here on the mail-list.
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I am on the same page as you Martin, we should tag the obelisks as
the prominent features they are.
man_made seem to be the most neutral key,
but landmark is tempting.
I suggested:
man_made=column
+ column=obelisk
What I meant was
man_made=pointy long massive not natural freestanding thing
and other tags if it is not
a natural rock surface you are tagging.
As I concluded yesterday, this proposal would be better with
landcover=bare_rock,
then it could be used on every land cover consisting of a bare rock surface
without confusion on the natural-key.
/Johan Jönsson
of
a slope with rubble of different sizes. More distinct tags needed or a general
tag.
There have been a vivid discussion, one idea is to use natural=* for special
named features, like scree, but use a land_cover=* for general tagging of the
nature of an area.
/Johan Jönsson
in the same way
as
natural=wetland + wetland=bog
see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wetland
and in
natural=desert + desert=hammada
see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Deserts
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Johan Jönsson johan.j@... writes:
A summary so far.
There seem to be a need for a tag for areas of solid rock, bedrock,
with visible rock surface. bare_rock could be used.
It is then obvious that there also is a need for areas covered by loose
rocks.
The naming of the popular natural
tag is the description of the terrain useful
to orient yourself: there are trees over there, there are bare_rock over here.
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Scree on wikipedia]].
There is a definition on
[http://etc-lusi.eionet.europa.eu/CLC2000/classes/Pictures?CLCcategory=3/3.3/3.3.2CLCtitle=Bare%20rocks
European Topic Centre on Land Use and Spatial Information] that is like the
first proposal, encompassing all kinds of areas with visible rock.
/Johan
/landcover, I propose the use of the tag
bare_rock.
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robert@... writes:
In holland we have a saying: Better to turn back halfway then get lost
at the end.
Means that if you look at the more and more popular way of tagging. It
is wiser to you this on this occassion and correct the alt fashion
tags. Last year the :right and :left subtag
This is a suggestion from 2008 that I have been reading:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespacing
regarding main tags and sub tags.
It sure looks good, but I do not really know how it tastes like.
/Johan J
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Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@... writes:
In practice, lot's of sites have *several* different roots throughout
the ages.
A castle may be build in early medieval ages, continuously extended
throughout those ages, largely changed in the baroque era and mostly
rebuild after damages of the
/Archeological_culture.
Just some random ideas (a bit off-topic maybe) from me: Johan Jönsson
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Nathan Edgars II nerou...@... writes:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Smith
deltafoxtrot...@... wrote:
On 10 January 2011 01:42, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@... wrote:
I can't comment on the rest, but sport=swimming is incorrect unless
the area is for competitive swimming.
-1
Johan Jönsson joha...@... writes:
--- Steve Bennett stevag...@... skrev:
2011/1/10 Johan Jönsson joha...@...:
My thoughts have been on a physical tag like leisure=bathing_area,
leisure=public_bath or just simply leisure=bath. The later one would
be a tag
for all kind of bathing
From the wiki, I have drawn the conclusion that the key leisure is used to
tag
physical objects.
Can it be used for non-physical tags too?
Is it possible to tag leisure=bathing; swimming; eating; drinking;
or maybe leisure=movies; music?
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Steve Bennett stevag...@... writes:
On 11/01/2011 7:06 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
From the wiki, I have drawn the conclusion that the key leisure is used
to tag
physical objects.
Can it be used for non-physical tags too?
...
...
My understanding: there is no physical/non-physical
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@... writes:
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:48:32 +0100 (CET)
Johan Jönsson johan.j at goteborg.cc wrote:
How about one tag for all of these places:
leisure=bath
With a bathing person as a symbol:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1_9_2_24.svg
To bathe
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