Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Wiki created: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dthreshing_floor Please comment and/or edit accordingly. Às 17:53 de 12/11/2020, António Madeira via Tagging escreveu: Thank you, Joseph. If no one opposes, I'll do just that. Regards. Às 16:43 de 12/11/2020, Joseph Eise

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-12 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
toric=threshing_floor and replacing it with man_made=threshing_floor, or otherwise changing existing common usage, you should make a proposal so that the community can discuss this. -- Joseph Eisenberg On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 2:53 PM António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wro

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
So, given that most of those who commented this thread agreed that threshing_floor should be in the man_made scheme, should I add it to the wiki or create a Feature Proposal? Às 19:27 de 06/11/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 21:53, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
nd Spain due to their historical significance. The suggestion of using 'historic[al]' is to represent this. In other parts of the world, where it is in current use and not ancient/protected then perhaps it is an 'amenity'? Is there a subtag to distinguish an historical/protecte

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Yes, as I said in the previous message, it was my misunderstanding. Sorry about that. Às 20:02 de 05/11/2020, Mateusz Konieczny escreveu: I was referring to " I see there's a reference to this feature in this wiki page, bu

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 10:57 AM António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: I didn't get it, Mateusz. What does historic=wayside_shrine have to do with threshing floor? On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In many modern places near cemeteries there's not a room, but several. So, I would prefer amenity=place_of_mourning Às 12:39 de 05/11/2020, Peter Elderson escreveu: rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"? amenity=mourning acceptable, though I think an amenit

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-05 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I didn't get it, Mateusz. What does historic=wayside_shrine have to do with threshing floor? On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: We also have historic=wayside_shrine that is used for ones

[Tagging] How to tag a threshing floor

2020-11-04 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Greetings. In Portugal and all Mediterranean countries, there are thousands of thresing floors . Most of them are not used anymore, of course, but they are still preserved and are private spaces used for many purposes. I myself have one. I see there'

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In Portugal, the Government's employment centre gets you a job and gives you professional formation. It has  a list of all the companies seeking for workers and distribute them based a very specific system. The money that comes from the Government to people without job is given via Social Security

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
hat I intended to write... On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 02:16, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Anyway, maybe the wiki could be updated to reflect the entire scope of the office=employment_agency Perhaps.  With qualifications and exceptions.  In the UK

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-10 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
ual tagging This means also that your idea of creating a new "government" related tag would be in conflict with the established tagging, at least in Germany Volker (Italy)      > On 10/10/2020 00:09, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: >> I was searching for a way of tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
register_office     government=data_protection I think it's just a matter of thinking about the correct value here. Às 20:30 de 09/10/2020, Jeremy Harris escreveu: On 10/10/2020 00:09, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: I was searching for a way of tagging a government job centre and I found

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
You can not duplicate tags on the same feature... Às 20:29 de 09/10/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 09:12, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: There's office=employment_agency which doesn't seem to fit here, ca

[Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Hi there. I was searching for a way of tagging a government job centre and I found there's no suitable way of doing this. There's office=employment_agency which doesn't seem to fit here, cause it seems to correspond to private companies who work with this kind of services. I thought about using

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
The problem, I believe is with iD's presets. When I started mapping some years ago I always marked crossings as zebras, then iD changed the preset to crossing =marked and I believe that's what you're seeing with the increasing number of this tag. Although iD presents the type selector within that

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

2020-09-11 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I ended choosing leisure=resort. There is an ill documented key for this tag, which seems to address the problem of defining the type of resort: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:resort Maybe we could expand and better the type of resort, based on this key. Às 21:12 de 10/09/2020, Graeme

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-18 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I just want wikis to be in accordance between them. As they are now, the induce mappers with doubt. Mind you that "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like junction=roundabout), therefore the oneway tag is redundant and should be avoided." is not telling that it'

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
iD already adds oneway=yes automatically, so no problem there. I don't know about JOSM, but that can be added as a warning/alert if there isn't one already. Às 22:04 de 14/08/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 07:59, António Madeira via Tagging mail

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In this section, I suggest changing the text: "These ways should all point direction of travel and be tagged with oneway=yes." to "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like junction=roundabou

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
So, should this contradiction be eliminated from the wiki or not? Às 09:32 de 26/05/2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging escreveu: Based on my experience it is usually better to write something, even not ideal and ask for a review. "Someone should write/expand it" is typically ignored. May 26,

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

2020-06-10 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I mean physically. If a vehicle can't use it legally, the access key must be activated, like in any other feature. I believe that the legality of circulation shouldn't interfere with the tagging of a track. For example: a dirt highway in a Natural Reserve should be always a track, regardless of wh

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-16 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
le=* which is wrong in this context. heritage:xxx:website=* - Used for the heritage official website (international or national). Regards, António. Às 17:49 de 14/04/2020, António Madeira via Tagging escreveu: Thanks, Paul. I'll contact them then. Às 17:44 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escrev

Re: [Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Thanks, Paul. I'll contact them then. Às 17:44 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 21:02, António Madeira mailto:antoniomade...@gmx.com>> wrote: Às 10:15 de 14/04/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: They're the ones you'd have to convince to alter their code to han

[Tagging] Refining heritage tag

2020-04-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Hi there. In the last few days, the Portuguese community has been trying to create a national standardization with the heritage tag. We came up to a possible solution which can be seen at the wiki page based on the previous information on the wik

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Although in Portugal squares are very well defined, either from their physical significance or from their name, this is surely not the case in every country. Maybe one of their main common characteristics is that they're open urban areas, a point of confluence where people can gather for social or

Re: [Tagging] How to match multiple destinations and destination:ref?

2020-02-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
This was of a great help, Jan. That tool is awesome! Wouldn't it be the right time to go ahead with this proposal? I mean, this is used for most of the routing softwares that uses OSM, including OSMAnd. Às 14:17 de 13/02/2020, Jan Michel escreveu: On 13.02.20 18:02, António Madeir

Re: [Tagging] How to match multiple destinations and destination:ref?

2020-02-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
penstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mueschel/DestinationTagging Jan On 13.02.20 16:07, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: Hi there. I've stumbled with a problem for which I couldn't find a satisfactory answer. Say I have a destination sign in a motorway junction exit with 4 destinations, but only

[Tagging] How to match multiple destinations and destination:ref?

2020-02-13 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Hi there. I've stumbled with a problem for which I couldn't find a satisfactory answer. Say I have a destination sign in a motorway junction exit with 4 destinations, but only the second one has a ref. How do we match the right destination with its ref? I've noticed that we can use "none" in the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Ok, let's stay in the same page then. :) Regarding schools, I don't know what you mean, because here, schools dont have fountains, just taps and those of the bubbler type (maybe old century schools have fountains in their yards or something similar). Às 18:20 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu:

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
This also is important. There are fountains (not many) which have an official document in situ to inform that the water was tested, with the analysis results and date. This could go into another key, which would compose even better the fountain tag. I had never noticed that legal=yes/legal=no keys

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I did read the description closely, and what I said still applies: in Portugal it is a fountain in the way it is described in Britain, an amenity=fountain with no drinking water. That's what I'm trying to explain from the beginning: it doesn't matter if it has drinking water or not, it will always

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Just to complement. If you come to Portugal and want to find drinkin water, you should know that most fountains have drinking water, like I need to know the opposite when I go to the UK. Also, if you come here, you need to know that we drive on the opposite side of the road. That doesn't mean that

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
That's what drinking_water=yes is used for, right? In Britain, you don't use drinking_water=yes, in Portugal (or whatever country it may be) we use amenity=fountain (which is always decorative/ornamental/historic, so it fits your conception of fountain) AND drinking_water=yes. For me, it's simple

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
It's not arbitrary and you're missing the point by circling around a non issue. I'm not saying to change the meaning of fountain, which can have some subtle differences between countries, I'm saying to let it open to retain its British meaning and add the possibility to have different uses dependi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Paul, I'm not calling it anything. We all know that OSM uses British English for tagging. What I'm saying is that it's better to widen the scope of the tag, than restrict it to a certain reality. A fountain is a fountain, if in England it doesn't implies drinking_water=yes, that's fine. In the maj

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
hat provide water (fountains, springs, wells, taps, drinking fountains, etc.) Regards. Às 11:40 de 06/02/2020, Paul Allen escreveu: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:15, António Madeira via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: A fountain should be first and foremost a place where there&

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
A fountain should be first and foremost a place where there's water served to the public. The concept of "sculptural and/or decorational" should be just a component of the fountain, depending on the country/culture. As its historical/heritage value. In Portugal, where there are thousands of founta

[Tagging] How to revive a tag proposal?

2020-01-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Greetings. In Portugal there are olive oil mills all over the place, as I'm sure there are in Spain, Italy and Greece. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to map them on OSM. I found an ancient proposal for this tag, but it never went forward: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/