Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:53:32PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Let's look at the entity relations in play here. Surely a club IS an > organisation, not a building. The club MAY USE one or more buildings, > and MAY OWN one or more buildings. A club HAS a contact address, HAS > members, HAS a

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Colin Smale
Let's look at the entity relations in play here. Surely a club IS an organisation, not a building. The club MAY USE one or more buildings, and MAY OWN one or more buildings. A club HAS a contact address, HAS members, HAS a "board" etc etc. So following the rules of "one object, one set of tags",

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:13:07PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-11-24 13:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. : > > > > > According to the approved > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Club > > chess has an own club=chess, as has fishing, automobile, hiking - all > > of which ca

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-24 13:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. : > > According to the approved > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Club > chess has an own club=chess, as has fishing, automobile, hiking - all > of which can be either leisure type or sport type activities. > > I think "club=automobile" f

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Z.
sorry, didn't see your email earlier. On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:27:03AM +0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > >The club page seems to suggest > >that club=sport + sport=cycling type tagging should be used for competitive > >sports. > > Which in my optinion is a bad idea, too. There is really no generel >

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-08 Thread Andreas Goss
The club page seems to suggest that club=sport + sport=cycling type tagging should be used for competitive sports. Which in my optinion is a bad idea, too. There is really no generel agreement as far as I know that club=sport is for competitive stuff only. I also don't think it's a good idea, be

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread phil
On Thu Oct 23 2014 14:03:57 GMT+0100 (BST), Richard Z. wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:46:45PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > > I like this tagging, but as an ex-diver I do feel it needs some > > expansion. > > > > compressor=yes/no > > To indicate whether there is air available to refill tan

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:46:45PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > I like this tagging, but as an ex-diver I do feel it needs some > expansion. > > compressor=yes/no > To indicate whether there is air available to refill tanks or not. this would be mostly covered by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
I like this tagging, but as an ex-diver I do feel it needs some expansion. compressor=yes/no To indicate whether there is air available to refill tanks or not. recompression_chamber=yes/no To indicate if there is a recompression chamber on-site. Other possible facilities, are diving schools, int

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Z.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 03:42:35PM +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > Can you please stop trying to come up with exceptions for the sport= tag? > > Just saw this on scuba diving: > > > Should be used to mark a place for scuba diving, preferably as an > attribute of natural=beach, natural=stone natural=

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-21 2:04 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > +1 for leisure=scuba_diving_attraction or better yet, leisure=divespot and > define the attraction or divespot further with subkeys > I prefer leisure=divespot or dive_spot (?) or leisure=dive_site This could still be coupled with tourism=attraction

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Dave Swarthout
+1 for leisure=scuba_diving_attraction or better yet, leisure=divespot and define the attraction or divespot further with subkeys On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Yves wrote: > Leisure=scuba_diving would be ok to me. > Let the divers refine the particular attraction according to their > practice

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Yves
Leisure=scuba_diving would be ok to me. Let the divers refine the particular attraction according to their practice. Le 20 octobre 2014 22:19:14 CEST, Clifford Snow a écrit : >On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Janko Mihelić >wrote: > >> What people probably want to tag are waters that are inter

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > What people probably want to tag are waters that are interesting to scuba > divers. Maybe we should make a tag like leisure=scuba_diving_attraction. > I haven't followed this thread but Janko's comment reminded me that of dive sites that I

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Simon Poole
Am 20.10.2014 20:37, schrieb Janko Mihelić: > > What people probably want to tag are waters that are interesting to > scuba divers. Maybe we should make a tag like > leisure=scuba_diving_attraction. . I beg to differ, there is a fairly wide range of restrictions at least on inland bodi

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-10-20 19:16 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell >> us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in >> the past 2 days... >> > > Using sport=scuba_diving for a dive spot. That would be like using > sport=socc

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Andreas Goss
would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in the past 2 days... Using sport=scuba_diving for a dive spot. That would be like using sport=soccer for a soccer field without using leisure=pitch. And i

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-18 15:42 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > Can you please stop trying to come up with exceptions for the sport= tag? > would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in the past 2 days... cheers, Marti

[Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-18 Thread Andreas Goss
Can you please stop trying to come up with exceptions for the sport= tag? Just saw this on scuba diving: > Should be used to mark a place for scuba diving, preferably as an attribute of natural=beach, natural=stone natural=cliff or a fitting segment of a coastline or lake. > For dive bases o