Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-10 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > ...but when there is a tag explicitly telling that the entrance is of a > staircase type then I'd expect it not to be the main entrance (otherwise it > would have been tagged as main, I'd guess) +1 Main is t

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Thu, 9 Apr 2015, johnw wrote: > My guess: I think the better word would be stairwell - an indoor or outdoor > stairway used for accessing different floors, but not part of the floor > /building itself. Often times stairwells have access limitations, as opposed > to a doorway opening inside to a

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-04-09 15:08 GMT+02:00 John Willis : > But a hospital has the "emergency" entrance - would we want a special tag > for a hospital's emergency entrance? > > (This is often quite different from the "main" entrance) > I think we'd want to, yes. (Although you might be able to see this also from

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread John Willis
The most common door to be mapped is a fire door (often signed "emergency exit" in America), and some kind of escape, like access from underground to street level for a subway evacuation. Japan has a lot of elevated motorways on pillars, with noise walls, so essentially you're driving in a gi

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sorry, unfinished mail ... typically private shops and pubs, offices etc) to enter in case you were victim of an aggression. http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_Noteingang > Am 09.04.2015 um 13:19 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > > > >> Am 09.04.2015 um 11:22 schrieb Daniel Koć :

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 09.04.2015 um 11:22 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > 1. entrance=emergency (3318 occurrences - clear winner as of now) not sure what those mean to say though, in Germany there used to be a campaign "Noteingang" (emergency entrance), whose name is a play on words (typically you use the word No

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.04.2015 3:42, Bryce Nesbitt napisał(a): On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about exits? Why entrance=exit of course :-). We already have 1793 of it. =} I would rather choose one of these: 1. entrance=emergency (3318 occurrences - clear winner as of

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread johnw
My guess: I think the better word would be stairwell - an indoor or outdoor stairway used for accessing different floors, but not part of the floor /building itself. Often times stairwells have access limitations, as opposed to a doorway opening inside to a single floor. This door and it’s stai

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > I added entrance=staircase and entrance=home to many > entrances I had collected already > What is a "staircase" entrance? If it's a main entrance that leads to a stair, is it tagged differently from a service entrance that leads to a stai

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what about exits? > Why entrance=exit of course :-). Indoor mapping can and should include emergency exits. Where those penetrate the outer building however is less important, as those are often exit only emergency only. Only thiev

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Wed, 8 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > > entrance=staircase > > > > Nice one with completely empty own wiki page in two languages [1]. > Wonder which import or editor did promote this tag ? No import for sure and probably "editor" also not in

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
what about exits? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Wed, 8 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > Am 06.04.2015 um 23:45 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > > > >> Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with > >> entrance=main and entrance=service. > > > > No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread fly
Am 06.04.2015 um 23:45 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > >> Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with >> entrance=main and entrance=service. > > No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase or > entrance=service so I see entrance=stai

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread fly
Am 07.04.2015 um 07:28 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:44 PM, johnw wrote: > >> If it is truly a bad idea to create further entrance=* tags, then how to >> tag other kinds of various entrances (with tag combos) should be added to >> the entrance wiki so someone doesn’t just come

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Historically speaking, having separate entrances for men and women was once common in some Christian denominations in the USA, as was having them sit separately once inside. This is why you see some older church buildings with two front entrances, one at the left front corner and one at the righ

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:44 PM, johnw wrote: > If it is truly a bad idea to create further entrance=* tags, then how to > tag other kinds of various entrances (with tag combos) should be added to > the entrance wiki so someone doesn’t just come and add a bunch of values > w/o asking the tagging l

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-06 Thread johnw
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > >> Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with >> entrance=main and entrance=service. > > No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase or > entrance=service so I see e

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-06 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with > entrance=main and entrance=service. No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase or entrance=service so I see entrance=staircase as a sort of subclass of entrance=main. And BTW, the

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-06 Thread fly
Am 06.04.2015 um 08:07 schrieb johnw: > >> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:54 PM, jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: >> >> why would you not just use the access tag to define who can use the entrance? >> > > entrance=* aleady defines the entrance by access type (emergency, delivery, > main, service), so it l

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread johnw
> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:54 PM, jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: > > why would you not just use the access tag to define who can use the entrance? > entrance=* aleady defines the entrance by access type (emergency, delivery, main, service), so it looks as if the entrance encodes the “title” of t

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread johnw
> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > > Mosques often have separate entrances for men and women. Isn’t there a method for tagging gender and age restrictions already? entrances are often labeled by title restrictions (visitor/student/employee/delivery). so entrance=yes/visit

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread jonathan
why would you not just use the access tag to define who can use the entrance? Jonathan --- http://bigfatfrog67.me From: John Willis Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎6‎ ‎April‎ ‎2015 ‎02‎:‎50 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Tl;dr: suggesting: Entrance= student, e

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread johnw
> On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > Sounds good. > > Is there a similar dual entrance concept for other classes of building, or is > this just a school thing? > besides the usual separation of visitor-customer / employee-staff / delivery-service entrances that exist at

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2015-04-06 at 10:50 +0900, John Willis wrote: > Tl;dr: suggesting: > Entrance= student, employee, visitor > > > In Japan (and I assume other Asian schools) there is a separation > between The "main entrance" and the "student entrance". As you change > shoes when you go indoors, every si

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread Jan van Bekkum
Mosques often have separate entrances for men and women. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:34 AM Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Sounds good. > > Is there a similar dual entrance concept for other classes of building, or > is this just a school thing? > > -- > Many western buildings have a service entrance, but t

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Sounds good. Is there a similar dual entrance concept for other classes of building, or is this just a school thing? -- Many western buildings have a service entrance, but this would definitely not be for visitors. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@opens

[Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-05 Thread John Willis
Tl;dr: suggesting: Entrance= student, employee, visitor In Japan (and I assume other Asian schools) there is a separation between The "main entrance" and the "student entrance". As you change shoes when you go indoors, every single primary, middle, and high school has a separate large entran