Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 03.04.2014 21:43, schrieb Richard Z: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:08:46PM +0100, Dave F. wrote: On 02/04/2014 17:14, Richard Z. wrote: as explained in the rationale the dimensions of the bridge/culvert are frequently only a fraction of the achievable precision. Think of a track crossing a

[Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread André Riedel
Should I tag a shop, where I can buy a baby strollers (and only strollers, nothing more) as shop=baby_goods ? Or is it better to use shop=stroller ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dbaby_goods ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-04-03 22:42 GMT+02:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: Don't dismiss that argument so casually. The current rule is that the way below the bridge should not share a node with the bridge itself. the current idea that culverts float bellow roads without having anything common with them

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Personally I would use shop=baby_goods, baby_goods=strollers. That way you preserve full detail, and you also accomodate data consumers that don't know about stroller shops. -- Matthijs On 4 Apr 2014 10:50, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: Should I tag a shop, where I can buy a baby

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Strollers are, I think, called pushchairs in English. shop=baby_goods baby_goods=push_chairs Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 04/04/2014 11:05 Matthijs Melissen wrote: Personally I would use shop=baby_goods, baby_goods=strollers. That way you preserve full detail, and you also

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread André Riedel
At the moment stroller is used for ramps or ways as access condition. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=stroller 2014-04-04 12:25 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: Strollers are, I think, called pushchairs in English. shop=baby_goods baby_goods=push_chairs Phil

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread SomeoneElse
André Riedel wrote: At the moment stroller is used for ramps or ways as access condition. But it's ambiguous, even in American. It's a noun meaning pushchair only in American; in both English AND American it means a person going for a walk. I can't comment on other English variants (AU,

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Steve Doerr
And it appears John Lewis department stores sell strollers: http://www.johnlewis.com/search/strollers Steve On 04/04/2014 11:36, André Riedel wrote: At the moment stroller is used for ramps or ways as access condition. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=stroller 2014-04-04 12:25

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Satoshi IIDA
Hi, Almost same discussion when I try to define baby care tagging. :) (sorry for my inactive status.) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/babycare Baby care tagging is still under RFC, so I'll change my proposal as the result of this discussion. BTW, +1 to subtag scheme

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Apr 4, 2014 11:44 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: André Riedel wrote: At the moment stroller is used for ramps or ways as access condition. But it's ambiguous, even in American. It's a noun meaning pushchair only in American; in both English AND American it means a

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Dave Swarthout
I never heard the term pushchair in any American context. In fact, this is the first time I've ever seen it. We use stroller, or if you're old enough, walker, when we talk about conveyances for small babies. Nowadays walkers are those wheeled frames that help older or disabled folks get around but

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-04 12:05 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Personally I would use shop=baby_goods, baby_goods=strollers. That way you preserve full detail, and you also accomodate data consumers that don't know about stroller shops. what about the tag sells? It is not used very

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/4/14 5:51 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: Stop saying GPS. Forget even about aerial imagery. When I had no aerial imagery in my area, I either did not draw such features (leaving them for future improvements), or approximate. The road there is about 6 meters wide, so I'll draw two nodes about 6

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Welty wrote: and if you are not sure about the extent of the structure or its nature there's no harm in nipping out a short section, setting layer=1 and skipping the other tagging (bridge=yes or whatever.) you have accurately represented what you know and maintained correct topology.

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread fly
On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Is noexit=yes useful on ways ? The way has one side that has/is an exit :-) Tagging the whole way as noexit=yes seems strange. If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-04-04 14:27 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: what about the tag sells? It is not used very often right now: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sells but could be a universal way to indicate selling particularities +1 I like sells=* more than baby_goods=*. That

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Is noexit=yes useful on ways ? The way has one side that has/is an exit :-) Tagging the whole way as

Re: [Tagging] noexit, aka noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Following a long dated thread, dormant draft here, what is said in the wiki article and now clarified... We now agree, Georg. It seems that this tag is one of the most understood one, and I have modified the wiki with a warning ahead so that the reader read more that the first phrase and a

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-04 16:14, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote : On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Is noexit=yes useful on ways ? The way has one side

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread John Packer
I also can't see why, but people also use noexit=no http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/noexit#values noexit=no is the same as fixme=continue I believe fixme=continue should be favored since it actually appears in QA Tools and in JOSM 2014-04-04 11:56 GMT-03:00 André Pirard

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna ask a for validator checks in JOSM, as we have more than 100,000 ways with this

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread fly
On 04.04.2014 17:35, Pieren wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna ask a for validator checks in JOSM, as we

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2014-04-04 Thread fly
On 03.12.2013 17:08, Jo wrote: Or possibly somebody changed the meaning of the tag on the wiki, without telling dinosaurs like myself. At first it was a tag that went on ways which are a dead end for cars. The wiki history tells a different story. It got an icon in JOSM when put on nodes

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Jo
I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't put it into words properly. If 40% of noexit tags are on ways, this is meaningful, not some sort of accident. FWIW I also prefer to put the tag on the way, I don't care about the gratification that it gets rendered with a nifty icon in JOSM when put on a

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2014-04-04 Thread Jo
OK, I didn't check. Maybe I consulted the wiki at the wrong point in time and got it wrong for the past 6 years. Polyglot 2014-04-04 17:53 GMT+02:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: On 03.12.2013 17:08, Jo wrote: Or possibly somebody changed the meaning of the tag on the wiki, without

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-04 17:35, Pieren wrote : On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna ask a for validator checks in JOSM, as we

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Dave Swarthout
I always thought the meaning of noexit=yes was very clear. Obviously there is some confusion I was not aware of. If a highway ends with no way to continue, the final node is tagged with noexit=yes. I only use it if I am sure there is no way forward from the end of the particular way. As someone