Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

2014-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-18 14:43 GMT+02:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com: Honest question: are there capitals for something besides countries and states? Not sure what qualifies as a capital, but in Italy for instance there is no such thing like a state. There are regions (Regione, admin_level 4) and

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

2014-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-18 15:13 GMT+02:00 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: However, its most used value (capital=8) makes little sense (that represents the capital of an admin_level=8 area, which would be the capital of a city!; I think those mappers meant this capital is a city :P). I don't

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

2014-05-19 Thread Wolfgang Hinsch
Am Sonntag, den 18.05.2014, 09:43 -0300 schrieb John Packer: Honest question: are there capitals for something besides countries and states? There are capitals identical with states. E.g. Hamburg, Germany. Also Berlin, Bremen. At the same time Berlin is, of course, the capital of Germany. I

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread André Pirard
Hi, This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163: The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. For example, many huge width highway=residential continue to an extra thin =track and then invisibly change to a =path. Just like on my National

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread SomeoneElse
André Pirard wrote: Hi, This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163: The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. Just my 2p, but personally I don't think that the rendering of highway=track and highway=path on the standard map are

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread Matthijs Melissen
This is @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/281165129#map=18/50.52934/5.81330layers=D Look at Le Stockis : residential - track - path transitions in the circles where they meet. Compare with the IGN map on the right. Ask anyone without hinting them by the topology which is track and which is

[Tagging] Comparing tags in Taginfo

2014-05-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
Following a suggestion I made, Taginfo now allows comparison of tags. See, for example: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/openplaques_plaque/openplaques_id -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-19 18:35, SomeoneElse wrote : André Pirard wrote: Hi, This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163: The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. Just my 2p, but personally I don't think that the rendering of highway=track

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:38 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Did you make that test: asking people which is track or path? Where walkers and tractors would go? Isn't this the job of the map key? ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread Richard Welty
replying to tagging, it's the only one of these lists i'm on On 5/19/14 12:12 PM, André Pirard wrote: Hi, This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163: The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. For example, many huge width

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread SomeoneElse
André Pirard wrote: On 2014-05-19 18:35, SomeoneElse wrote : If you feel strongly about it why not knock up a rendering with more differentiation between track and path and invite people to compare with the current standard map? ¿¿¿ ¡¡¡ That is exactly what I did with showing OSM and IGN

[Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, There are almost 8m highway=track objects in the database (thanks taginfo!), third only to =residential and =service (thanks TIGER!). I'm interested to know what level of access people believe this implies in their home countries. Here in the UK, for example, highway=track is often

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-19 Thread bulwersator
In Poland all road types are assumed to imply access=yes (at least in my experience). On Mon, 19 May 2014 11:05:30 -0700 Richard Fairhurst lt;rich...@systemed.netgt; wrote Hi all, There are almost 8m highway=track objects in the database (thanks taginfo!), third only to

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-19 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 19 May 2014 19:05, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I'm interested to know what level of access people believe this implies in their home countries. In Luxembourg, highway=track normally cannot be used by vehicles. Most of them have currently no access tag. -- Matthijs

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Hi all, There are almost 8m highway=track objects in the database (thanks taginfo!), third only to =residential and =service (thanks TIGER!). I'm interested to know what level of access people believe this implies in their home countries. Here in the UK, for

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-19 19:41, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote : On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:38 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Did you make that test: asking people which is track or path? Where walkers and tractors would go? Isn't this the job of the map key? Strangely, I was just looking

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread John Baker
Rendering issues/discussions are on the github page as stated. Please continue there if needed. But 2 things here. This is looks more similar because a) It is though a forest if the background is lighter it would be less of an issue. b) If Track type is not defined (or =grade3) then it looks

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Strangely, I was just looking at the key when your message popped up. Did you look too? Just saw now that there is one problem in the key: there is no info about paths (only about tracks and footways, like you

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread John Baker
Just to add to address these points. a) the key is static and not relevant to what is on the screen. footpath are in the key but not paths. There are dozens of things in then rendering we cannot add them all. Just the most common. The best solution would be a dynamic key that just displayed

[Tagging] Turn lane tagging

2014-05-19 Thread Tod Fitch
None of the area I am in has had turn lanes tagged per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn#Turning_indications_per_lane or destinations set per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination:lanes#Destinations_per_lane When I start doing new tagging, I like to find existing tools

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-19 Thread David Bannon
On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 19:05 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm interested to know what level of access people believe this implies in their home countries. I Australia, 'track' generally means a road that is badly maintained or not maintained at all. Almost certainly unsealed. Some short and

Re: [Tagging] Turn lane tagging

2014-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
should have been: big thank you On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: I use the style https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles/Lane_and_Road_Attributes for the same project as you. It's very powerful and I think the author deserves a big think you.

Re: [Tagging] Turn lane tagging

2014-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
I use the style https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles/Lane_and_Road_Attributes for the same project as you. It's very powerful and I think the author deserves a big think you. regards m On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: None of the area I am in has