Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - indoormark=beacon

2015-09-01 Thread François Lacombe
Hello It looks like a well built proposal and the tagging scheme can be extended with other keys depending on the case. Only one comment : it's bad to make the RFC last only one little day All the best François Lacombe fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-01 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
On Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree. There clearly are typologies with retail (and offices) in the ground > floor and residential (or offices) in the upper IMO an apartment building with shops on the first floor is still an apartment building. Even the description of building=apartments

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread johnw
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 6:59 PM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: > > On Tue Sep 1 10:49:56 2015 GMT+0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> I unsure about highway=bridleway+bicycle=designated but given that it >> appears 2 129 times worldwide it is likely that is also may be >> considered as mistake.

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-01 Thread John Willis
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > presently traverses a staircase! I currently forget which, but a national road in Japan officially becomes a staircase near its terminus, as the government managed "road" is significant older than cars, and for

Re: [Tagging] Big amenity=fountain

2015-09-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.06.2015 16:10, Daniel Koć napisał(a): I guess it's time to try to make a rendering test. All the comments are welcome. After long break - the code for rendering in default style is ready now: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1804 It works for standard

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt (history (authors of changesets))

2015-09-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-08-31 20:12, � wrote : > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:55:27 +0200 >> moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >> >>> On 31/08/2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Is there some method to automate finding who introduced

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - indoormark=beacon

2015-09-01 Thread Guillermo Amat
Hello Thank you for your comments. Please, look at the dates again, it has been a month since the RFC was published and reported to this mailing list :) RFC start:2015-07-30Vote

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:32:37 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For example somebody wants to produce map of cycleways. Simply > > processing highway=cycleway and highway=path with bicycle=designated > > should be enough. > > highway-=path with bicycle=yes This is merely allowed

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Warin
On 1/09/2015 6:23 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: Careful with a mass edit "soil" > "dirt" Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt - note that "soil" is one type of "dirt" in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground, which says that "ground", as

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Anders Fougner
Den 31.08.15 12.41, skrev moltonel 3x Combo: On 31/08/2015, Christoph Hormann wrote: I would be careful here - 'dirt' is essentially a very vague term which probably originates from the concept of 'dirt roads' here. 'Soil' in the other hand is fairly precise, see

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread phil
On Tue Sep 1 10:49:56 2015 GMT+0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I unsure about highway=bridleway+bicycle=designated but given that it > appears 2 129 times worldwide it is likely that is also may be > considered as mistake. > Makes sense to me, bicycles can legally use a bridleway in

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Ruben Maes wrote: > Friday 28 August 2015 19:05:52, Mateusz Konieczny: > > For example iD - is it clearly > > indicating that it is about legal status? I am also regularly checking > > situation in my region and fixing new problem. > > In

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 31.08.2015 12:41, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > If you do want to consolidate tags, "earth" is a much better synonym > of "soil" and you should probably use that instead. It's not a synonym either. The wiki said for years that surface=ground is "probably the same as surface=ground", and now it

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:11:46 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 08/31/2015 01:41 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > It is not OK to use one tag (for example amenity=hotel) and add > > second tag that negates or massively change its meaning (for > > example adding involuntary=yes

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
Careful with a mass edit "soil" > "dirt" Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt - note that "soil" is one type of "dirt" in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground, which says that "ground", as surface, is the same thing as "soil"

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:13:26 +0200 moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 01/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > Soil is not dirt. That's why I have used surface=soil myself, and I > > will revert any automated edit of such kind. > > I agree that soil and dirt are

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 31.08.2015 11:51, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> See >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny >> /surface%3Dsoil_to_surface%3Ddirt >> >> I plan to change surface=soil to surface=dirt. surface=soil is a >> clear

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 01/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > Soil is not dirt. That's why I have used surface=soil myself, and I > will revert any automated edit of such kind. I agree that soil and dirt are different, and that the mechanical edit should not proceed as originaly planned. But as a

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
I could have predicted this result. A bunch of squabbling over terminology. It never fails to happen and is one reason I stopped contributing to these discussions. Every one sees things differently. It's amazing that OSM has come as far as it has! Just go ahead and map things the way you see them

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:08:34 +0100 "Dave F." wrote: > Your suggestion of decreasing the road class is "trolltaging" Please > don't do that. Lane closures or access restrictions etc, does not > change a road's classification. Long-term closure/access restriction is a

[Tagging] Path decoupling [was: Re: Trolltags]

2015-09-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 01.09.2015 11:49, Mateusz Konieczny napisał(a): On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:32:37 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: highway-=path with bicycle=yes This is merely allowed cycling, not a cycleway. That's why I would reserve highway=path just for not constructed pedestrian ways -

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:24:48 +0100 "Dave F." wrote: > On 01/09/2015 10:59, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:08:34 +0100 > > "Dave F." wrote: > > > >> Your suggestion of decreasing the road class is "trolltaging" > >> Please

Re: [Tagging] Construction

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:18 AM, johnw wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > > The Gardiner is reduced to 2 lanes (was 3), the speed limit is lowered and > it is causing huge traffic jams. > > > > if it is still a motorway, it is a

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:59:32 +0100 "Dave F." wrote: > On 01/09/2015 12:52, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > - I am speaking about value of highway tag in OSM, not the official > >classification (in many places these may be the same or strongly > >related - but it

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I am looking for a better name - but for example [highway=footway; > proposed=yes] may not be incorrect. It is not changing that such > tagging should not be used as it makes OSM data less usable. > How about

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 06:42:02 -0500 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > > I am looking for a better name - but for example [highway=footway; > > proposed=yes] may not be incorrect. It is not changing that

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:02:38 -0500 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > > On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:24:48 +0100 > > "Dave F." wrote: > > > > > On 01/09/2015 10:59, Mateusz Konieczny

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway section "International equivalence" seems to address the point in question for "motorway" Similar equivalence sections are present in the wiki pages for trunk and primary, tertiary (but only for two countries) They are missing for lower

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/09/2015 12:52, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: - I am speaking about value of highway tag in OSM, not the official classification (in many places these may be the same or strongly related - but it is not a strict rule). Road reference classification tags relate to official road

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:24:48 +0100 > "Dave F." wrote: > > > On 01/09/2015 10:59, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:08:34 +0100 > > > "Dave F."

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > But for example Japan has "national highways" - that generally are > equivalent of highway=trunk (according to > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging ) but "Note that a > little part of Japanese National

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:54 PM, John Willis wrote: > > > > On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > presently traverses a staircase! > > I currently forget which, but a national road in Japan officially becomes > a staircase near its terminus,

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

2015-09-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 01.09.2015 14:55, Volker Schmidt napisał(a): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway [1] section "International equivalence" seems to address the point in question for "motorway" Similar equivalence sections are present in the wiki pages for trunk and primary, tertiary

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - indoormark=beacon

2015-09-01 Thread Guillermo Amat
Hello Voting process opened for indoormark=beacon proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/indoormark%3Dbeacon Regards ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Construction

2015-09-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 30.08.2015 um 22:32 schrieb Paul Johnson : > > construction=minor. Also, if known, consider access:lanes=yes|no|no (vary as > appropriate) as well. you could split the highway and adjust the "lanes" value according to the current state (i.e.

Re: [Tagging] Construction

2015-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Am 30.08.2015 um 22:32 schrieb Paul Johnson : > > > > construction=minor. Also, if known, consider access:lanes=yes|no|no > (vary as appropriate) as well. > > > you could split the

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/09/2015 10:59, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:08:34 +0100 "Dave F." wrote: Your suggestion of decreasing the road class is "trolltaging" Please don't do that. Lane closures or access restrictions etc, does not change a road's classification.