Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 03:02, Joseph Guillaume wrote: > > It would be like mapping every fountain as historic. > > They're often not considered of historic interest locally, let alone > nationally or internationally. > > Hope this clarifies my thinking... you are raising

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 02:26, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > > In case of a well, as the aquifer is below your starting point, I’d think > > you would need some kind of pump and not just gravity (at the beginning)? > > Look at the diagram: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qa

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

Jun 21, 2020, 09:50 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 21. Jun 2020, at 02:26, Joseph Eisenberg >> wrote: >> >> > In case of a well, as the aquifer is below your starting point, I’d think >> >you would need some kind of pump and not just gravity (at the beginning)?

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

Jun 21, 2020, 09:05 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 21. Jun 2020, at 03:02, Joseph Guillaume >> wrote: >> >> It would be like mapping every fountain as historic. >> >> They're often not considered of historic interest locally, let alone >> nationally or internation

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 10:05, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > "the origin of the qanat was a well that was turned into an artificial spring" this makes a lot of sense, the sentence “the immediate water source is an aquifer OR a well” doesn’t. Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 10:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > this makes a lot of sense, the sentence “the immediate water source is an > aquifer OR a well” doesn’t. ok, maybe it does ;-) Can a well have a higher water level than the aquifer it is boring into? Maybe it can

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 19:25 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:08, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 20. Jun 2020, at 14:44, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They should probably have disused=yes or a disused lifecycle > > > > > prefix

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

Update. I looked around a bit (I am a city dweller, apologies, if this is new to me) In South Tyrol (Italy) they have an interesting variant of this concept. The dairy uses refrigerated containers which are parked in designated spots at scheduled times. The nearby farmers bring their milk to the co

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 14:13, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > The nearby farmers bring their milk to the container and fill it up. The full > containers are collected and carried to the dairy. > I found this photograph of such a container on Instagram. > I suppose this is not a map

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

For what it's worth, two points: 1. The Oxford English Dictionary spells this word as kanat. 2. It doesn't sound like anything we would refer to as a canal in English: canals are for transportation (goods or humans) and are designed to accommodate boats (even if no longer used in that way).

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

On 21/06/2020 13:41, Steve Doerr wrote: The Oxford English Dictionary spells this word as kanat. Actually, more recent (smaller) dictionaries from the Oxford family have adopted the spelling qanat, so I withdraw that point. -- Steve -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivi

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 13:13, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I looked around a bit (I am a city dweller, apologies, if this is new to > me) > In South Tyrol (Italy) they have an interesting variant of this concept. > The dairy uses refrigerated containers which are parked in designated spots > at sche

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

My point was only that we should be carefully looking for variants of the concept, and try to make it mappable, avoiding too specialized tags. Something like "milk collection point" would comprise both if we were to distinguish active from historic ones.

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 08:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > you are raising the bar higher than it is. Every memorial is tagged as > historic for example. > That is not a good argument. It is not (usually) the memorial itself which is of historic interest but the event or person it commemorate

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 15:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > My point was only that we should be carefully looking for variants of the > concept, and try to make it mappable, avoiding too specialized tags. > Something like "milk collection point" would comprise both if we were to

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 14:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > My point was only that we should be carefully looking for variants of the > concept, and try to make it mappable, avoiding too specialized tags. > Something like "milk collection point" would comprise both if we were to > distinguish active fr

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 01:41:53PM +0100, Steve Doerr wrote: > For what it's worth, two points: > > 1. The Oxford English Dictionary spells this word as kanat. > > 2. It doesn't sound like anything we would refer to as a canal in English: > canals are for transportation (goods or humans) and are

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 15:00, ael wrote: > > +1. I have noticed this misuse of "canal" before. > It's almost as if some people confuse the English "canal" with the Italian "canale." There is historical precedent for that, although it applied to a different planet. -- Paul ___

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

In addition I think there are (wooden) platforms for churns in the same area. At least I think so, but until I find one, I cannot say for sure whether they still exist or not. On Sun, 21 Jun 2020, 15:37 Paul Allen, wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 14:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> My point was o

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

Agreed, but just to be clear as it applies to this proposal, in OpenStreetMap-land, that ship has sailed. A canal describes "An artificial open flow waterway used to carry useful water for transportation, waterpower, or irrigation" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dcanal We've de

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

Hi all, I've been in touch with the person who's mapped a lot of the waterway=canal+man_made=canal, and they didn't have any specific rationale. After seeing the proposal page, their preferred tagging is: canal=qanat elevation=-3 layer=-3 location=underground name=Bir.1.2 status=abandoned or act

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 15:00, ael wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 01:41:53PM +0100, Steve Doerr wrote: > > For what it's worth, two points: > > > > 1. The Oxford English Dictionary spells this word as kanat. > > > > 2. It doesn't sound like anything we would refer to as a canal in > English: > >

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

Thank you, I had intended to try to find out who was using that tag, myself, so it was very helpful to contact them. Glad to hear that the mappers using man_made=qanat are happy to change to this tag. – Joseph Eisenberg On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:07 PM Joseph Guillaume wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'v

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

A few questions: 1. What is the “elevation” tag supposed to mean? It is not in the wiki and the use count is pretty small [1]. 2. Why level=-3? I seems like that would be dependent on what other underground features were being mapped. 3. Why status=abandoned | active? Wouldn’t the lifecycle pr

[Tagging] historic memorial (was Re: "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat")

What about a plate that remembers a police officer that was killed in 2002? regards m. On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:28 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 08:11, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> >> you are raising the bar higher than it is. Every memorial is tagged as >> historic

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

sent from a phone > On 22. Jun 2020, at 00:07, Joseph Guillaume wrote: > > only some qanats are of historic value while I don’t think these must be absolutely tagged with historic=*, you still could show an example of a qanat that “isn’t of historic value” so that it becomes more convincin