On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 09:18:52AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> > I fear confusion if it uses exactly the same tag. But maybe it could work.
> Open for any thoughts or suggestions of a better word!
The only term that crossed my mind was specialisation but that
doesn't really
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 04:57:12PM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > there is also craft (combination or not) for places where you find
> > specialized workers.
> >
>
> I've never been very happy with a lot of the craft= tags.
>
> To me "craft" suggests small-scale, probably handmade, so
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 02:44:35PM +0100, Lionel Giard wrote:
>
> To my understanding, at trade shop can't really be compared to a "craft"
> guy, as the trade shop only sell bulk material (there is no production
> there). :-)
That is indeed part of the meaning for trade=?? when used in
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 01:57:35PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> What is the difference between these shops?
>
> My expectation is that
>
> - shop=plumber is poorly tagged office of a plumber
> - shop=plumbing is unclear tagging of shop with primarily plumbing supplies
> -
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 08:19:16AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 21:32, ael via Tagging
> wrote:
> > I invented the shop=trade after a suggestion on this list to consider
> > subtags.
>
>
> I was thinking about it & wondered abou
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 06:33:46PM -0400, Jmapb wrote:
> On 3/10/2019 6:16 PM, Warin wrote:
>
> >
> > amenity=prep_school .. umm amenity ... not something I like to use.
> > And prep_school tends to indicate preparation before going to school
> > rather than extra work on top of school.
> >
> I
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 06:20:11PM +1100, Warin wrote:
> On 09/02/19 16:18, Mark Wagner wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 10:54:16 +1000
> > Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/653287455#map=15/38.0034/-87.6183
>
> In this case they have been mapped as a
On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 12:22:01AM -0800, Mark Wagner wrote:
>
> My copy of the Oxford English Dictionary has about a page of
> definitions for "ditch" and "drain", and not a hint that either of them
> needs to be lined.
+1
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 10:22:30PM +, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:09, Sergio Manzi wrote:
>
> > If you think it is important to differentiate between lined vs. unlined
> > minor waterways (*and I'm not objecting to that*), I guess the best
> > option would be to use a
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 08:09:26PM +1000, Warin wrote:
> On 13/06/19 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote:
>
> I think a tag to say "lane:marking=no" could be better for that situation???
>
> lanes=* says the number of lanes, it does not say if they are marked or
> unmarked as demonstrated above.
+1
It
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:00:19AM +0200, Allroads wrote:
> First, the consensus in OSM is
Sorry, but this thread is clear evidence that statement is false.
And existing mapping also contradicts it.
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On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 07:38:45AM +0200, s8evq wrote:
> Another attempt at summarizing the current situation:
>
> How should we included the direction?
>
> - Andy Townsend suggested "Explicit start and/or finish nodes?", but I'm
> afraid that's not enough to deduce the direction of complex
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:33:15PM -0700, Michael Patrick wrote:
> > The obvious tag is
> > shop=trade
> > and
> > trade= ??? ...
>
> The most obvious tagging scheme for a world wide database like OSM would be
> to use the commercial classification system in effect in a particular
>
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 04:03:35PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> like in only selling, not fitting/mounting them? Not offering to replace the
> glass, etc.? Can you go there to buy a window, and take it away, or will you
> order a window or maybe the whole facade which will then be
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:11:15PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>
> 8 lip 2019, 03:22 od bradha...@fastmail.com:
>
> > wiki page
> Can you link image of track
> on rock/rocky surface where tagging
> it as grade1, grade2, grade3 would
> be misleading?
The existing grades seem to be
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 05:42:56PM +0200, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> I always thought that there is no norm for standard sizes of windows, so
> every window is made to measure.
That's what several local companies do in my area of the UK. They cater
mainly for the trade, but also for DIY. Pretty well
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:45:13PM +0100, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote:
> The intention is to make future mappers consider the device precision when
> doing corrections.
My experience is that many mappers, especially armchair mappers, ignore
source tags. I often find that my fairly accurate gps mapping
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 04:01:09PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:41 PM ael via Tagging
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:11:25AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> > > I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards
> >
>
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 11:08:55PM +, Paul Allen wrote:
> Which then goes back to the discussions we were having a while back about
> > tagging the "dangerousness" of tracks.
hazard=extreme surely?
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On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 09:48:27PM +, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 19:56, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
> Up until around ten years ago, a minor road went past the end of the
> runway at what passes for an airport. The planes could be so low on
> approach to the runway that
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:07:52PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> >
> >- Hidden dip
> >
> > Maybe. There is a barely used tag hazard=dip. Is this a permanent
> feature?
We have examples in the UK, even on major roads like the A346 between
Marlborough and Swindon. I don't think they
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 03:47:26PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> >
> > We have examples in the UK, even on major roads like the A346 between
> > Marlborough and Swindon. I don't think they are tagged.
I have deleted my several dashcam videos of this area, but one of the
signs, which I
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:11:25AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> I am not opposed to including unsigned hazards
There are a surprising number of abandoned open mineshafts in the far
West of England which are a hazard, if not an extreme hazard. Not all
of these are signed or fenced. You
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:29:52AM -0800, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>
> Also, currently waterfalls (which can be considered very large and steep
> rapids!) are tagged waterway=waterfall on a node. Other waterway barriers
> are also tagged this way, e.g. waterway=dam and waterway=weir. Tagging
>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:29:52AM -0800, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Another argument against use of hazard=* for rapids is that the hazard key
> has been used almost always with highway=* features, not waterways.
Not in my part of the world. Why try to restrict the scope artificially?
Hazard in
> I'm uncomfortable with hillock/hillocky as a value.
"Hillock" is quite common in British English, not that I am comfortable
using it as a tag.
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 07:30:26AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> > "Hillock" is quite common in British English
>
>
> To describe a traffic control device?
No.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:22:44PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> I see this subject directly related to the "hazard" discussion in the sense
> that I suggested to clearly define the difference between signposted
> hazards/dangers/warnings and un-signed such situations that are observable
> on the
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:09:40AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am Di., 17. Nov. 2020 um 20:04 Uhr schrieb stevea >:
>
> > I never said to NOT use source=* tags, they are correctly used on an
> > individual datum if / as it might diverge from a greater set of data that
> > otherwise has
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 08:25:43PM -0800, stevea wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Seth Deegan wrote:
> > May I ask why not source=*? I know it's basically depreciated, but many
> > times I find myself wondering where past mappers got the info for a route
> > (this happened just today). I
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:46:39AM +, martianfreeloader wrote:
> There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tags is British
> English. Using a non-BE word for a tag because it is used in Australia while
> a synonymous BE word exists, would be the same using a Xhosa, Portuguese or
>
On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 01:41:21AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 5 Oct 2022, at 15:26, Jass Kurn wrote:
> >
> > The tag amenity=fountain was created to map the entity/object known in
> > English as fountains, and is documented in the OSM wiki with several
On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:56:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 6 Oct 2022, at 11:41, ael via Tagging wrote:
> >
> > Definitely not a fountain.
> >
> > These all in British English.
>
>
> these
On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 03:01:57PM -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> > But I was just trying to feed in that calling these things fountains is
> > not natural in everyday British English. Feel free to ignore.
> > The one term which is natural, drinking_fountain, I gather at least
> > one person wants to
On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 09:52:46AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 8 Oct 2022, at 07:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Example Tom Bass Wall Fountain, Sydney, Australia 1963. Nicknamed "The
> > Urinal" for obvious reasons!
>
>
> according to a
On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 01:07:56PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> so basically you call a "fountain" what we call in German a "Fontaine", or
> "Springbrunnen", and what could be more specifically called a "waterspout
> fountain" in English, i.e. a structure where water is blasted into the
On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 11:56:43AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I would be interested to learn how you would call them, if "fountain" is
> not the correct term. Also I would like to add another example and ask
> whether that's a fountain for you:
>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 11:45:58PM +0200, Dimitar wrote:
> Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better word
> for it.
That is just plain wrong. They have different dimensions.
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:50:57PM +, Daniel Bégin wrote:
> I see your point. I may be mired with language issues (English is not my
> native language) but either I create a “business” tag and document it or I
> use office?
Well, I would be in favour of that. In this sort of context, I
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 09:06:14PM +, Daniel Bégin wrote:
> Using the workplace of an electrician as an example, it was made clear that I
> should use craft=electrician instead of office=electrician. But what if this
> electrician sees its business get bigger (in a North American context)?
>
A very general comment:-
I very seldom consider voting on proposals, but I did want to look over
this one.
However, when I logged into the wiki, there seemed to be no easy way
to find current proposals nor to identify those with active voting.
Perhaps if I had kept a copy of the initial messages
On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 12:13:01PM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> You should bookmark this site to keep track of proposals:
>
> https://osm-proposals.push-f.com/
Thanks for that, but it doesn't work. Not on firefox with noscript
enabling the site.
It does seem to work on palemoon.
On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 08:15:05PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> > to find current proposals nor to identify those with active voting.
> > Perhaps if I had kept a copy of the initial messages in this thread,
> > I would have found an URI.
> >
>
On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 07:38:53PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
>
> Jul 4, 2023, 17:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 03:14:47PM +0100, Ian Dent wrote:
> >
> >> Previously it was tagged as ford=impassable but this isn't a valid value
> >> and
> >>
> >
On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 03:14:47PM +0100, Ian Dent wrote:
> Previously it was tagged as ford=impassable but this isn't a valid value and
On reflection, that doesn't seem such a bad tag. Why not just document
this on the wiki after discussion on the tagging list? Then it
should be a supported tag,
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