Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-03 Thread Johan Jönsson
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist@... writes: 2011/9/2 Nathan Edgars II neroute2@...: On 9/2/2011 7:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: +1, I also disagree. I see landuse=forest as the effective area covered by trees. Hence I would subtract all other entities within. Disagree with this.

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/3 Johan Jönsson joha...@goteborg.cc: +1 for using one tag for the whole forested area. Maybe something along the scheme of natural=wetland, wetland= {more detailed desc.} Maybe natural=woodland? no, woodland is an area with less dense trees then in a forest (it is a special ecological

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 09/01/2011 02:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: IMHO there is no landuse inside another landuse (at least for the true landuses which are the landuses by man. Do we agree that nested polygons replace, not supplement, the outer polygon? The rendering seems cool with this, and it makes sense.

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-02 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 9/2/2011 3:40 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On 09/01/2011 02:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: IMHO there is no landuse inside another landuse (at least for the true landuses which are the landuses by man. Do we agree that nested polygons replace, not supplement, the outer polygon? The

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/2 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: On 9/2/2011 3:40 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The rendering seems cool with this, and it makes sense. If I draw a forest, then draw a landuse=reservoir on top of it, those interested in the forest's true area can subtract out the reservoir. No

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-02 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 9/2/2011 7:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: +1, I also disagree. I see landuse=forest as the effective area covered by trees. Hence I would subtract all other entities within. Disagree with this. landuse=forest should be the area that is used for forest purposes, which can include

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/2 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: On 9/2/2011 7:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: +1, I also disagree. I see landuse=forest as the effective area covered by trees. Hence I would subtract all other entities within. Disagree with this. landuse=forest should be the area that is used

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-09-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: On 08/31/2011 02:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very prominent) rooftop parks. That's fine, you can tag them with leisure=park (or maybe

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very prominent) rooftop parks. That's fine, you can tag them with leisure=park (or maybe leisure=garden, and garden:type) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Dave F.
On 30/08/2011 12:10, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 8/30/2011 6:40 AM, Dave F. wrote: You appear to be confusing the landuse tag with the boundary tag. No. You appear to be disagreeing with my use of the boundary tag. That as well. Dave F. ___

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 8/31/2011 8:35 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts: boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries. In my area, towns have boundaries, and there are

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts:  boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge +1  place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries. just because they have no legal status does not mean

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
* Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com [2011-08-31 08:50 -0400]: There's a third possibility - the unincorporated suburb or exurb that nevertheless has a defined boundary, since it's planned or controlled by one company. I think Columbia, Maryland is this way It is. Additionally, Columbia

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes: On 8/31/2011 8:35 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts: boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries. In

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2011/8/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:  place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries. just because they have no legal status does not mean there aren't distinct limits. Usually / often there are. There can be natural limits

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Pieren
Currently, when we search 'quarter' in the wiki, we are redirected to 'suburb': http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Quarterredirect=no Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 08/31/2011 02:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbittbry...@obviously.com: I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very prominent) rooftop parks. That's fine, you can tag them with leisure=park (or maybe leisure=garden, and garden:type)

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-30 Thread Dave F.
On 30/08/2011 01:27, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 8/29/2011 7:18 PM, Dave F. wrote: On 29/08/2011 23:35, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 8/29/2011 6:05 PM, Dave F. wrote: Mapping the difference between a residential estate a golf course is, IMO, the bare minimum. Here's an example of a residential

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 08/30/2011 02:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: With a patch of green grass roof (a city park): landuse=recreation_ground stacking=11 -1, IMHO landuse is about _land_use, so I would not tag a roof with landuse. I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very

[Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
We have been recently discussing on the German ML about landuse=residential. In Germany many mappers were mapping subdivisions / neighbourhoods [1] with landuse=residential. This led to very rough landuse information, because in order to keep the (sometimes quite big) area as a whole they are

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/8/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com We have been recently discussing on the German ML about landuse=residential. In Germany many mappers were mapping subdivisions / neighbourhoods [1] with landuse=residential. This led to very rough landuse information, because in order to

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-29 Thread Josh Doe
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: We have been recently discussing on the German ML about landuse=residential. In Germany many mappers were mapping subdivisions / neighbourhoods [1] with landuse=residential. This led to very rough landuse

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-29 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Landuse is a general description of what the predominant landuse is. Hence if a residential subdivision includes a community park or golf course, or an industrial park includes a McDonald's, you don't need to cut them out of the polygon. As for including roads, I tend to include them if

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-29 Thread Dave F.
On 29/08/2011 23:35, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 8/29/2011 6:05 PM, Dave F. wrote: Mapping the difference between a residential estate a golf course is, IMO, the bare minimum. Here's an example of a residential community (Bay Hill) that has a golf course within it: