Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On 02/20/2011 08:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole question suggests that we're somehow

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/21/11 9:10 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/20/2011 08:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/2/21 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net On 2/21/11 9:10 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/20/2011 08:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 21/02/2011 02:51, Paul Johnson wrote: This whole question suggests that we're somehow responsible for data consumers paying more attention to their navigation than what's out their windshield, which is an entirely specious argument for obvious reasons. OSM officially only does the data, not

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On 02/19/2011 06:24 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The Massey Tunnel is currently tagged with oneway=no on the reversible section and through the tunnel itself. For the reversible sections (that lead up to the tunnel) they really alternate between oneway=-1, oneway=yes and access=no. For the two

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 2/19/2011 7:24 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The Massey Tunnel is currently tagged with oneway=no on the reversible section and through the tunnel itself. For the reversible sections (that lead up to the tunnel) they really alternate between

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole question suggests that we're somehow responsible for data consumers paying more

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/20/2011 9:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole question suggests that we're somehow

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On 02/16/2011 11:59 PM, James Mast wrote: I'm just curious here, but is there a general consensus on how to tag roads that have 3+ lanes that have 1 or more lanes that change direction at certain times while still leaving at least one lane going in each direction? You know, kinda like the

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-19 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/19/2011 4:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: A better example would be the George Massey Tunnel on 99, which omits the oneway= tag completely on both motorways in the contraflow sections. According to the wiki, highway=motorway* implies oneway=yes (meaning it's always oneway in the drawn

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-19 Thread Paul Norman
@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes On 2/19/2011 4:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: A better example would be the George Massey Tunnel on 99, which omits the oneway= tag completely on both motorways in the contraflow sections. According to the wiki, highway=motorway* implies

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-19 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/19/2011 7:24 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The Massey Tunnel is currently tagged with oneway=no on the reversible section and through the tunnel itself. For the reversible sections (that lead up to the tunnel) they really alternate between oneway=-1, oneway=yes and access=no. For the two parallel

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread James Mast
Alright, I've tagged the roadway that I was asking this about with the following: lanes=3 lanes:counterflow=center That should work for now. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/24873632 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread Michiel Faber
James Mast schreef op vr 18-02-2011 om 05:00 [-0500]: Alright, I've tagged the roadway that I was asking this about with the following: lanes=3 lanes:counterflow=center Don't you want to descripe the center lane? So lane(s):center=counterflow makes more sense to me. Michiel

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/18/2011 5:00 AM, James Mast wrote: Alright, I've tagged the roadway that I was asking this about with the following: lanes=3 lanes:counterflow=center I believe the word is contraflow. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/02/2011 15:23, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I believe the word is contraflow. Contraflow is certainly the version always used in the UK (generally preceded by an expletive, as in stuck in a *** contraflow for two hours). A quick web search found both counterflow and contraflow; maybe

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread James Mast
...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes On 2/18/2011 5:00 AM, James Mast wrote: Alright, I've tagged the roadway that I was asking this about with the following: lanes=3 lanes:counterflow=center I believe the word is contraflow

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/18/2011 8:40 PM, James Mast wrote: NE2, contraflow is for stuff like when an entire highway is reveresed in an emergancy (like an evacuation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraflow_lane_reversal I did use the correct one here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterflow_lane A reversible

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-18 Thread James Mast
I've personally heard Contraflow mentioned for the switchover's some DOT's have on Interstates for Hurricane (or other) evacuations in the press. I know I-95 in Georgia happens to have two such crossovers, but they don't specifically say contraflow on the signs. Here are links to how they do

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/17/2011 12:59 AM, James Mast wrote: I'm just curious here, but is there a general consensus on how to tag roads that have 3+ lanes that have 1 or more lanes that change direction at certain times while still leaving at least one lane going in each direction? You know, kinda like the Lions

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-17 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if there's a benefit to being more specific than lanes=3 in Note that there's already a reasonable amount of traffic simulation being done based on OSM data. That work is dependent on the number of lanes

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:06:57 +0200 Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: Fortunately there aren't too many reversible lanes in most cities. Used a lot in Sydney to manage rush hour traffic I haven't lived there for 30 years so I don't know the current extent of the practice, but the Harbour Bridge

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: Note that there's already a reasonable amount of traffic simulation being done based on OSM data. Really? Cool...any online simulators? Steve ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-17 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: Note that there's already a reasonable amount of traffic simulation being done based on OSM data. Really? Cool...any online simulators? Not that I know