Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-18 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I just want wikis to be in accordance between them. As they are now, the induce mappers with doubt. Mind you that "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like junction=roundabout), therefore the oneway tag is redundant and should be avoided." is not telling that

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-18 Thread Steve Doerr
On 17/08/2020 15:02, Matthew Woehlke wrote: FWIW, I am also in favor of preferring explicit tagging; oneway={yes,no} says that someone paid enough attention to intentionally annotate the way thusly. An implicit tag is impossible to tell apart from an oversight. IMHO we should never, *ever*

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-17 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 14/08/2020 17.57, António Madeira via Tagging wrote: In this section, I suggest changing the text: "These ways should all point direction of travel and be tagged with oneway=yes." to "These ways should all point

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
iD already adds oneway=yes automatically, so no problem there. I don't know about JOSM, but that can be added as a warning/alert if there isn't one already. Às 22:04 de 14/08/2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick escreveu: On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 07:59, António Madeira via Tagging

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 07:59, António Madeira via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > In this > > section, I suggest changing the text: > "These ways should all point direction of travel and be tagged with >

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
In this section, I suggest changing the text: "These ways should all point direction of travel and be tagged with oneway=yes." to "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
It is nicer to avoid contradictions, but I am not planning to work on this specific case. If you want you may propose specific edit and post it here for review (or make it and discuss if someone disagrees). "Someone should write/expand it" is typically ignored. Aug 14, 2020, 20:35 by

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-14 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
So, should this contradiction be eliminated from the wiki or not? Às 09:32 de 26/05/2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging escreveu: Based on my experience it is usually better to write something, even not ideal and ask for a review. "Someone should write/expand it" is typically ignored. May

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:34 PM Steve Doerr wrote: > I would think that oneway=yes or oneway=-1 was required on motorways in > order to identify the direction of one-way travel. For roundabouts, it must > be easier provided data consumers know the national rules. > Seems pretty easy to tag it

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-26 Thread Steve Doerr
I would think that oneway=yes or oneway=-1 was required on motorways in order to identify the direction of one-way travel. For roundabouts, it must be easier provided data consumers know the national rules. Steve On 24/05/2020 21:26, Volker Schmidt wrote: I just noticed an apparent

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:22 AM Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 5/26/20 5:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > It can't hurt to specify oneway=yes. I have noticed that the JOSM style >> that shows lane counts and lane use will sometimes not show ways >> properly if oneway=yes isn't there, but that's

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Based on my experience it is usually better to write something, even not ideal and ask for a review. "Someone should write/expand it" is typically ignored. May 26, 2020, 10:58 by vosc...@gmail.com: > Please come back to my original question: > I would like to eliminate the > contradiction in

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-26 Thread Volker Schmidt
Please come back to my original question: *I would like to eliminate the contradiction in the wiki. What wording do you propose?* On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 10:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 5/26/20 5:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > It can't hurt to specify oneway=yes. I have noticed that the

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 5/26/20 5:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: It can't hurt to specify oneway=yes. I have noticed that the JOSM style that shows lane counts and lane use will sometimes not show ways properly if oneway=yes isn't there, but that's probably a bug in the style more than an indictment

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 18:51 Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 5/24/20 15:26, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I just noticed an apparent contradiction regarding the use of the oneway > > tag between the wiki pages key:oneway > > and motorway > >

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-24 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 5/24/20 15:26, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I just noticed an apparent contradiction regarding the use of the oneway > tag between the wiki pages key:oneway > and motorway > . > The former

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone >> On 24. May 2020, at 23:54, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I am aware of the histroy - I only wanted to bring up the contradiction > between the two wiki pages before changing the wiki. The situation is different for roundabouts and motorways. In both cases in absence of the

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:52:54PM +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I am aware of the histroy - I only wanted to bring up the contradiction > between the two wiki pages *before* changing the wiki. Feel free - The "new" (Most likely a decade old) way is that motorways and roundabouts have an

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
I am aware of the histroy - I only wanted to bring up the contradiction between the two wiki pages *before* changing the wiki. On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 23:11, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:26:19PM +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I just noticed an apparent contradiction

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:26:19PM +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I just noticed an apparent contradiction regarding the use of the oneway > tag between the wiki pages key:oneway > and motorway >

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-05-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
PS: The standard rendering assumes junction=roundabout, highway=motorway, and highway=motorway_link to be oneway=yes by default (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1363) On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 22:26, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I just noticed an apparent contradiction