Hi Justin,
Justin:
> A wile ago, I sent an email to this list to see if the Tor bridges screen
> could be
> made accessible to Orca users, by using the same method that made Onion
> Circuits
> work.
Right. I believe my previous reply still applies:
ribution before so I'm not
> sure where to start.
For the Debian packaging aspect, I recommend starting with:
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/
For the Tails integration aspect, the best entry point we currently
have is: https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/code/
Che
ration before
it's reintroduced into Tails.
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> Is this nightly build reasonably secure?
Except "it's not been built in a trusted environment", it passes our
automated QA (in the very same untrusted environment).
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Justin Davis:
> Awesome! Thanks for that!
:)
> Is there anyway that I can get a copy with the patch early, and
> still get security updates for future releases?
You *could* download an experimental ISO on
Justin Davis:
> In Tails 3.0 beta 2, the screen reader will not start in the greeter.
Thanks for the report! Sorry!
I've noticed and fixed this earlier today. It will be fixed in Tails
3.0~beta4, scheduled for April 18.
Meanwhile, manually installing the speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng package
s on
https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/5630.
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Hi,
I'm relaying this to our development mailing list:
Stuart Trusty:
> I am interested in producing a minimal 360Mb .iso of TAILS that can be
> written to a bootable DVD- not many utilities and programs, mostly focused
> on getting online and running Electrum.
> Why? I think that presently
Arnaud:
> intrigeri:
>> AFAIK, modifying the rootfs in a persistent manner will produce very weird
>> results next time you boot
> What do you mean ? Is it because of some security mechanism of Tails
> that will detect my changes ?
No. It's because some bits of the
is* writable, but of
course the modifications go to a ramdisk)
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> I managed to build Tails, finally ! So let me share here the little
> patch I ended up with, in case it can help someone. This patch deals
> with the transient network problems I experienced.
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> Signed-off-by: Arnaud
> ---
> wiki/src/contribute/build/vagrant-setup.mdwn | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
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, and adding retries
> here and there, so that the build keeps going and doesn't give up so
> easily. I think that `apt-cacher-ng` should help me to mitigate the
> problem, but up to now I destroyed the VM too often to take advantage of
> it ;)
s.boum.org/contribute/how/promote/material/
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> Slides are attached for anyone curious (apologies in advance for my
> lack of Libreoffice skills).
A pull request against
https://git-tails.immerda.ch/promotion-material/ would be welcome so
that your slides are listed on the Tails website :)
segfault:
> Hi, here are the notes of today's meeting. Please review and merge.
applied, thanks!
will you update the tickets accordingly in Redmine?
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xin:
> Hello, I made a branch to update some links and add a missing punctuation.
> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: links
> Last Commit: 2dc5b83fdc843271eb60272b61467193c6979644
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e run Tor Launcher so that it is accessible,
just like we did for Onion Circuits. Bonus points: it'll ease porting
Tails to Wayland.
anonym, if you agree: may you please file a ticket about it?
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> please review the December report and merge if suitable.
Merged, fixed a few things on top (mostly 28c6f34 and
6700e16), pushed!
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). I would also like to expand Persistent settings for the desktop
> settings and browser settings.
I believe we have Redmine tickets for all of those. Help / patches are
welcome :)
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systems today. See you on
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Hi!
I don't understand why this was forwarded to the mailing list for
Tails development. I'm pretty sure our help desk people are perfectly
able to answer these two questions. I see you've already written
them, so be patient and wait for their answers :)
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nstalling the one you personally like:
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s the
>number of UTXO in an address (and also optimizes change which we are
>trying to avoid)
> 1. This case takes several medium to small value UTXO and combines
>them into two outputs. If the number of inputs are three or
>
we can take a selfish stance were we don't care about
> the
> potential negative effects this can have on the network and blockchain bloat;
> then
> only other drawback is potential increase of transaction fees, but that seems
> like
> a negligible effect to me. So, I say:
Hi,
s7r:
> intrigeri wrote:
> The text was copied from Electrum man page.
Thank you!
> UTXO's are basically the coins you can spend. The spendable coins are in
> UTXO's, not in addresses. Addresses are just a smart crypto way to let
> the world know in advance who has the right t
way, for some various value of "privacy".
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> here the notes for the monthly meeting, sorry for the delay!
merged, thanks!
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setting? Leave it as part of GRKERNSEC_KMEM, but add a sysctl to allow
re-enabling kexec at runtime? pipacs, spender: what do you think?
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xin:
> Hello, I found a typo in the last news.
> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: typo
> Last Commit: 4ce842dbff05e7a3304b1c423dd649663cec9abd
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[moving this discussion to tails-dev@]
Collin Sullivan:
> On 1/7/17 1:32 AM, intrigeri wrote:
>> I'll assume that the package Martus needs is either libopenjfx-java
>> or libopenjfx-jni.
> I'll need to confirm with some of the devs on my side. When we were
> experiment
anonym:
> The Vagrant basebox has been updated, and apparently Vagrant won't
> switch to it automatically. To completely delete the old builder VM and
> basebox, please run these commands from Tails' Git root:
FWIW I've personally kept the old one around, since branches based on
stable are
hi,
Dash Press:
> my ‘source’ mentions that you are working on Dash with Tails implementation
I'm sorry I don't understand what do you mean here :/
Care to rephrase or clarify?
> can you please provide me any details / updates about that ?
Certainly, once I've understood the question :)
Hi!
Harlan Lieberman-Berg:
> intrigeri <intrig...@boum.org> writes:
>> No: Tails 3.0 (based on Debian Stretch) will be x86_64 only.
> Awesome! I've got one or two more bugs to crush, and I need to get
> final sign-off from my employer, but I'll reach out wiht the result
h, without overwriting it. E.g. in our tests, a few
dozens of MiB are not erased by this process on a machine with 8 GiB
of RAM. Implementation details are documented there:
https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/memory_erasure/
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supported by Tails. We're in the process of organizing a meeting with
Qubes OS, Whonix and Subgraph; my personal top priority there will be
to discuss this very topic, and get a better idea of what we could do,
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intrigeri:
> * January 30 - Febuary 3: fourth sprint (remotely attended)
I forgot: at the end of the January sprint, I want to release
a Stretch based Tails 3.0 beta, that is safe and good enough for every
Tails contributor to use in production until 3.0 final is out.
I'll commit to k
g.
shall we switch to using NetworkManager's MAC address spoofing
feature?); I expect anonym and I will take care of this.
Complete list of tickets:
https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/issues?query_id=198
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> Lucas
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(httraqt) that
I never tested. IMO this feature would be used by very few people, so:
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to our other release branches (e.g. 'security' and
'testing') anymore, since its history will include changes that are
not suitable for those branches. This implies that any change done on
the live website branch since the last release, such as translation
updates, won't be included in the copy of the
tion
on https://tails.boum.org/doc/advanced_topics/additional_software/
might fit your needs :)
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Dash Press:
> Hey guys
> this refers to the "Security Paper" i emailed about some days ago
> https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/x/CYCHBQ
> can i ask for future automatic integration of the Debian and Tor
> signing keys in the keyring as emphasized in chapter I.5.5.2.1.1.
> “[...] Tails already
anonym:
> intrigeri:
>> So I hereby propose we stop tweaking the HTTP User-Agent sent
>> by htpdate.
> I agree.
https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/12023
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ince IIRC the idea is to turn the MAC spoofing decision from being
a per-Tails-session one, into a per-network-connection one; there
seems to be a few remaining open questions about this part of the new
design though, so it might change in the future.
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in your persistent volume configuration, that triggers the behaviour
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> +1.
Done in 14958e2.
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> * late August: 1st sprint, only relevant for anonym and intrigeri
> * November 14-18th: second sprint (in-person, organized by intrigeri)
These did happen! A report will be included in the November monthly report.
> * late December: third sprint (remotely attended for
Anonymous:
> "Use torsocks to torify Git, and drop tsocks entirely. tsocks has been
> unmaintained for years in Debian, and was removed from testing
> for a while (Closes: #10955)."
> Is torsocks the same as tsocks?
No.
> I certainly hope torsocks
> remains in Tails, I use it for several
anonym:
> IMHO those of us with access to jenkins should also make sure to
> check the tests before asking for a review. Clearly I failed at that
> this time (but I have done it at other times, so it was just a slip!),
> so the blame is on me, really! :S
Feel free to add this to our branch
iew/
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Dear RM,
Nicolas Vigier:
> The next Firefox release is delayed by one week.
Can you please update the release schedule accordingly?
Thanks in advance,
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days for traveling to the Tor dev meeting) or 16-20
(leaves only 1 day for traveling).
I expect that most of the affected people will discuss this in person
in a few weeks during another Stretch sprint, so this email is mostly
about getting us started with thinking about it :)
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> I found a lost tag and took it away on this patch.
applied, thanks!
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Justin:
> Is Tails affected by the Dirty Cow exploit?
Yes.
> If so, will this be patched in the next release?
Yes. Our RM (bertagaz) is taking care of it.
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> Login to persistent volume via U2F ?
Did anyone ever try using U2F for unlocking local encrypted storage volumes?
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lower the total time spent
traveling for those of us who will attend both events. E.g.
our Stretch sprint could be moved to March 15-19.
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anonym:
> Patrick Schleizer:
>>> https://git.tails.boum.org/tails/tree/config/chroot_local-includes/usr/local/lib/tor-controlport-filter?h=feature/7870-include_onionshare
>>
>> When I visit that link, I cannot proceed.
[...]
We try to never advertise links to https://git.t.b.o for
this very
Hi,
maybe this discussion would be one of those that we should be having
on the deskt...@secure-os.org list?
I see that there was a thread about similar topics a few months ago:
https://secure-os.org/pipermail/desktops/2016-July/000128.html
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Hi,
lenn...@spambog.de:
> Correspondingly, JonDo Live DVD should be moved to the
> "Discontinued, abandoned or sleeping projects" section.
Done, thanks!
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sure vs. requirements on the underlying hardware. I assume
> that Tails wants to continue to be able to run on 32-bit x86 hardware,
> even if there are performance costs to doing so; is that correct?
No: Tails 3.0 (based on Debian Stretch) will be x86_64 o
pe
feature/revamp_phase1
feature/revamp_phase1_user_strings
> 2. Configuration files for enabling / disabling features. (Python)
> When I talked to Intrigeri he pointed me to:
> https://git-tails.immerda.ch/whisperback/tree/whisperBack/whisperback.py?h=feature/jessie
> which used in turn config.py
of the ISO or IUKs.
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> /etc/sane.d/dll.conf should ship with "net" commented (or removed).
Why shouldn't we support scanners connected on the LAN?
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pect that if one started looking for such issues in Tails,
they would find quite a few more.
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Anonymous:
> According to /etc/ttdnsd.conf:
> # OpenDNS
> 208.67.222.222
ttdnsd is not used by default. It can be used explicitly by the user
(and will go away in Tails 3.0).
See https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/Tor_enforcement/DNS/
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the context of Tails.
> I could imagine that using some system to monitor "anomalous" stuff in
> the file system and Tor connections from withing the OS may be useful.
Yes, possib
ou want.
> To be honest, I am not very familiar with advanced Debian administration.
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Hi,
it seems that the bugs fixed by this new version don't affect Tails
enough to warrant an emergency release, but it feels important to have
it in Tails 2.7 => #11832. bertagaz (RM for 2.7), do you agree?
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I'm relaying your message to our help desk.
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s that OTRv4
might be the future wrt. axolotl-based protocols.
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lease is 4.4.11:
chances are that when we include important changes in new upstream
releases, they will go into Debian, so this might be a good enough
indicator of whether a downstream should bother upgrading their Tails
Installer packages.
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> I make it more clear on the docs with this attached patch. please review
> and merge
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sycamore one:
> you can pull the meeting notes for the September monthly meeting from
> git.tails.boum.org:sycamoreone/tails 201609-meeting-notes
JFTR, so that nobody else spends time on it: apparently this was
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as well.
Great, good to hear! Please send me more detailed info than the brand
about the affected hardware, if feasible. This would be useful both to
me personally (to better understand what is working, and what's still
not supported), and to allow us to update the known issues pages.
m redirecting your question to our help desk: tails-dev is a mailing
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sajolida:
> Right, xin and u are right on this one. The alt attribute is mandatory
> but can be empty. I also learned a lot from this article (now in
> /contribute/how/website):
> http://webaim.org/techniques/alttext/
Thanks a lot to u, xin and sajolida for spending time educating me
(and
Hi,
intrigeri:
> anonym wrote (22 Dec 2015 16:21:50 GMT) :
>> Patrick Schleizer:
>>> Wouldn't it be possible, and simpler, to block all networking with
>>> iptables to prevent early MAC leaks so kernel module blacklisting could
>>> be avoided?
> After spe
sajolida:
> Cool! But I had to unfuzz translations in 9db789b.
Thanks!
Feel free to point me to such mistakes of mine next time, I'm happy to
fix it myself. I don't want you to feel that you "have to" handle it
yourself :)
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> here a patch for a typo on the website.
applied, thank you!
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> https://git-tails.immerda.ch/tails/plain/debian/changelog
> lists each Tails release as "unstable". Why? These are the final
> releases; not betas or release candidates.
This is the default value set by the dch tool when editing
Debian-style changelogs.
Ch
lve in a way that is easy &
safe to use for everyone else. Which probably explains why nobody has
implemented it yet.
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res convey some
useful information, and then they need an alt text, or they don't, and
then perhaps they should not be present at all, no? (But I guess I'm
grossly over-simplifying :) I'll leave it to sajolida to handle this.
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Hi,
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> Me and intrigeri have deviced a plan for how we will deal with
> the migration to Debian Stretch, with the details being available
> in this blueprint:
> https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/Debian_Stretch/
We will kick-start this effort next week, and we have sch
hi,
elouann:
> Here are a few commits adding booklets and media appearances to the
> press page:
> branch: elouann/documentation
Merged, thanks!
A tiny bit more proof-reading would be welcome regarding typographical
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> This small patch deletes duplicated line on the report. please review
> and merge.
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> Hopefully there will be some testing ISO available this summer.
(For the avoidance of doubt: I'm pretty sure that Alan means Northern
hemisphere Summer here.)
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stage of the
installation process.
And it would be nice if tails-verifier looked at filesystem metadata
as well as files content, if it doesn't yet. I bet it's cheaper to add
this check than to prove that it's not needed :)
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you're describing, while the 2.5 release is very unlikely to produce
it), but I did not check closely yet.
u & bertagaz: see commits 1a791ff141b76a79e66dfbe5e1899908fe616587 and
da6ac8bba70b5c14fb9665a671b09c4b83a9aaa9 on feature/stretch.
c
ext time I am blocked by it,
just like I did on feature/stretch, so _for me_ it's not urgent.
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Hi,
intrigeri:
> Please update yours!
Tails 2.5 is out, so I've moved the remaining tickets to 2.6, but:
> While you're at it, it may be good time to think about when you'll
> actually have time to complete these tasks, in order to set
> a realistic goal.
… this is still valid,
gust 21 though, as it is blocking important
matters we will need to deal with during the first Stretch sprint.
Thanks in advance!
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tickets for your team-mates who are on
holiday: you know these tickets' status better than me.
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Hi,
intrigeri:
> Usual testers, please let me know (privately) about your availability
> for testing the ISO on:
> - 2016-08-01: all day
> - 2016-08-02: until 3pm CEST, in case we did not complete the test
> suite the day before
Ping!
So far I only have one single fel
ve never modifyed the default value for this
GNOME setting we get from upstream/Debian, so whatever change might
have happen in Tails, has been decided upstream or in Debian.
To revert that change in Tails, we'll need a pretty strong reasoning,
that takes into account the reasoni
sycamoreone wrote (21 Jul 2016 09:57:00 GMT) :
> I am not sure if this is a bug actually, but would suggest that
> tails-installer should properly depend (directly or indirectly) on all
> the tools necessary to do its job.
Right.
That's https://bugs.debian.org/814489,
which has been fixed in Git
on the subject.
Thank you in advance.
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segfault wrote (19 Jul 2016 11:06:49 GMT) :
> I created a PO to translate the strins. But I didn't know how to
> integrate it in Tails, so I just put it in
> `config/chroot_local-includes/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/` (but I
> know that's not how it's done). Anyway, you can take a look at it
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