Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 09:23:18AM -0500, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: > The main phones in the house are cordless. The handset will still operate > during a power failure but the base would not. For that reason my family > also has one old style phone powered from the CO just in case we need to

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-17 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2024-01-16 23:20, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:00 PM James Knott via talk wrote: On 1/16/24 07:16, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > CO-powered phones are still available Are they still CO powered? My home internet is still metered and charged as

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-17 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2024-01-16 07:16, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:46 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk > wrote: (The old Bell system had large lead-acid batteries in the COs. Oldhandsets were actually powered by the CO.  Modern ones have their

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:00 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > On 1/16/24 07:16, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > > CO-powered phones are still available > > Are they still CO powered? My home internet is still metered and charged as a DSL line (by Teksavvy), though I know my neighbourhood has

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 11:27, mwilson--- via talk wrote: Help-desk people are forbidden to hang up, but if the customer terminated the call it would count as a problem resolution, and therefore a good thing. Several years ago, I was doing some work at a Bell customer, hooking up an Adtran router to Bell

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 10:21, Steve Petrie via talk wrote: My last Rogers interaction last week, had a Rogers sales rep ending his call to me, by shouting that I had just wasted his valuable time (because I had told him the technical reasons why I would rather pay a $18 / month Bell Canada premium, over

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 07:16, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: CO-powered phones are still available Are they still CO powered?  Both Rogers and Bell are moving to VoIP over fibre to the neighbourhood.  There's an old Bell box near me, where the lines for the homes could connect to the cable.  It's been

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 02:45, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: They try to hide the fact that their "home phone" service is over VOIP. For one thing, I think that they have dedicated bandwidth so saturating your internet service won't break your phone service. Compared to the bandwidth customers have,

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread mwilson--- via talk
From: "Steve Petrie via talk" > [...] > This same brain-dead abusive Rogers sales loser, actually ended our call > by shouting "F**k You !!" at me, before he ended the call. Charming :) > Seemed to me his vituperative manner could have been a reflection of a > possibly desperate Rogers. I've

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread Steve Petrie via talk
Original Message | From: Alvin Starr via talk Rogers has or had UPS built into the home phone box. And they have batteries on their neighbourhood boxes. (During a long power failure, they even brought a generator for the one near us.) [Steve Petrie] Nice to read

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:46 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > (The old Bell system had large lead-acid batteries in the COs. Old handsets > were actually powered by the CO. Modern ones have their own power for > many functions. So we used to expect the phone to work during "hydro" >

[GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-15 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Alvin Starr via talk | Bell and Rogers are now both offering VOIP based home phone services. | I assume that they have batteries to keep things running in the event of a | power outage but It would be interesting to have someone on list confirm that. | I remember many years ago working